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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: raj5000

Depends on - whats the purpose ? and who says only angels are flight attendants.It's only atitude that gets Dhanno Bhesiya with extra premium/favorite fodder even tho purpose is to get half liter more milk πŸ˜†

Good looking person needs atitude, a person with atitude has no choice but to get more atitude (talent or whatever), having both there need to utilize either based on purpose/aim/target, having neither then Hari Om   πŸ˜•

lol. the angelic flight attendants have found better/ more glamorous professions nowadays. there's no need for them to be serving tea and biscuits in the high skies anymore when they can be a glam bahu/ paapun in a serial.πŸ˜†

as for what guys might want in a jeevan saathi, they certainly dont start out looking for the unattractive ones. almost no one does. par mil jaati hai that's another story. but those are compromises that the unlucky ones end up making. now one can try to rationalize that on flimsy grounds, but deep down we know they cldnt get better.😊

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Posted: 15 years ago
Originally posted by: chatbuster

lol. the angelic flight attendants have found better/ more glamorous professions nowadays. there's no need for them to be serving tea and biscuits in the high skies anymore when they can be a glam bahu/ paapun in a serial.πŸ˜†

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Even the non angelic's make it to glam world and later are transformed to overnight angels if at all one keeps watching the soaps day & night lolss BTW - you should check newest additions to kingfisher airlines (hand picked by Mr. Mallaya ) wonder if they ever do more then handing water bottles with paralyzed face (interms of attending to people's genuine needs or an occasional smile not all are drooling for them lolss), but well as I sed if the purpose is to attract ;) people to airlines that might work well but if you are service oriented then they better provide service rest looks/wooks takes a backseat. Have no complains to be served with a heart warming attitude… by a not so angelic attendant in continental airlines. no am not saying because she complimented my watch but felt nice he he he.

as for what guys might want in a jeevan saathi, they certainly dont start out looking for the unattractive ones. almost no one does. Neither are they just watching listings with pics or ignoring other details, if they are god help them, I for one wouldn't like to see anyway hooked up to someone who can just say aabaa daabaa daabaa…   par mil jaati hai that's another story. but those are compromises that the unlucky ones end up making Lolss compromises are required if the so called purpose is unclear… even getting lucky in aspect you mentioned might turn out to be most dreadfull decisions if the other aspect is totally ignored.. now one can try to rationalize that on flimsy grounds, but deep down we know they cldnt get better.😊 or otherway can be like lagoor key haath mey angoor πŸ˜†πŸ˜† 

 

Posted: 15 years ago
Originally posted by: lighthouse

 Well said..!!! Don't know why we have to explain the obvious but than we don't have all the facts , the other side does. πŸ˜† we are just speculating about everything. 

As far as SRK not cheating and being happily married - yes, these are the facts unless proven otherswise.  You came up with "may be's" "think so's" and other such speculations.

To say that because he is still married to her, SRK is smitten by his wife todate and finds no other female attractive is not only a speculation but fallacy.

πŸ˜†πŸ˜† oh really.  Why don't you try proving otherwise...the points you speculatedπŸ˜›

 I mean Dharmendra is still married to his first wife, AB is still married to Jaya after Rekha and his numerous flings, most men don't leave their wives to have trysts on the side.πŸ˜‰  

And how did you find about these affairs Dharmendra and AB had?  Did you find even a single media report on SRK having a mistress tucked on the side or having a fling on the side?  Naheen na.  Then you have been speculating all along why you think he's still married to GKπŸ˜›

 The other thing is , everyone knows talent is what is needed to succeed in chosen profession,

True.  Glad you mentioned it again but it's not limited to profession only.  Even in personal life, only looks can catch the attention fleetingly.  Long term success of a relationship comes from only attitude but not from only looks.

FYI - we are not allowed to hedge here.  What would you go for in your life partner or significant other if given a choice - only looks or only attitude?

no one is arguing about that but the debate is about when given a choice, why people still go for the beauty passing over any other compensating traits a person might have.  Could it be that our eyes can't resist beautiful people?

Not really.  Many people still go for the personality over only looks.  If this was not the case, your side would have also posted articles on public figures claiming how they go only for looks.  A handful of people may prefer beauty over everything else but not all think like that.  If majority thought like you do, your side would have come up with some supporting third party anecdotes/interviews rather than twisting the ones presented here and mocking themπŸ˜‰  ...and oh, not to forget - second guessingπŸ˜†

Posted: 15 years ago
Originally posted by: qwertyesque

The only thing this article was doing was giving false hope to all those ok through ordinary looking and aspiring individuals who would fail miserably in front of those stunners, an alternate route to making themselves noticed.. In fact this thing affirms the fact that looks score over attitude...

No qwertoo, no false hopes.  The article is acknowledging what you are trying to turn a blind eye to.  Beauty is just skin deep and beauty without personality/attitude is not going to capture the attention for long.  Inner beauty is what lasts through a lifetime.  Outer beauty fades with time. 

Qwerty, it's critical to know the debate premise that was set up by one of your camper - you either pick "only" looks or "only" attitude.  Attitude here is what th eperson is all about - their thinking, their nature, their personality, their intellect etc.  What would one pick when looking for a spouse if it has to be either/or..not both or a decent enough combination of both. 

Posted: 15 years ago
Originally posted by: lighthouse

 Nice article G, every girl should read it and live by it for sure but it doesn't help them any with the kinda problems the debate starter said non-lookers face.

I don't agree with you here.  So many non-lookers have been extremely successful in their chosen profession and personal life because of other positive personality attributes.  If beauty was the sole criteria that captured a person's heart, beautiful people would never be dumped or break up with other beautiful people.  Salman and Aish would still be together.  It's not the beauty that gets noticed past the first glance, it's your personality, the way you carry yourself that creates a lasting impression.  Not all average lookers's marriages are compromises like you are claiming.

 It is not going to get them the man they desire, or that job as air hostess a pudgy person might be aspiring to get.

I have seen many great looking guys with average looking wives and vice versa and still happily married.  You can only claim for yourself when you say who's going to get what they desire.  When you make a blanket statement like this, you second guess.  I provided articles to support my pov here.  Why don't you provide some to support how only looks made a relationship successful.

As far as air hostesses, I have seen many average looking gals with great attitude working as air hostesses too.  Can't say it's only looks that gets them the job.  If they do not have the right attitude, they won't be serving the customers with a smile and won't stay on the job long.

Professions ki hee baat aayee hai toh look around you...how many CEOs, CFOs or political leaders you see around you who are successful only because of their looks?  Heck, something as glamorous as bollywood have seen the average looking great attitude people like SRK and Rani ruling the industry.  So please, don't keep on saying that "only" looks will get one everything one wants.

Average girls when competing with gorgeous beauties cannot wear their portfolio on their faces. Not saying it is right all the way, but that's how it is.  πŸ˜Š

No, they can't wear their portfolios on their faces but as long as the job opening is not for a menial wall-flower kind of personal secretary job, it's the attitude and intellect that gets you the job...not just the looks....it's the talent and competency that keeps you employed, not only looks.

Looks can only give one a headstart.  Rest of the journey depends on one's attitude, talent, intellect, personality...jo man aaye keh loh😊

Posted: 15 years ago
Originally posted by: lighthouse

 Nice article G, every girl should read it and live by it for sure but it doesn't help them any with the kinda problems the debate starter said non-lookers face.

I don't agree with you here.  So many non-lookers have been extremely successful in their chosen profession and personal life because of other positive personality attributes.  If beauty was the sole criteria that captured a person's heart, beautiful people would never be dumped or break up with other beautiful people.  Salman and Aish would still be together.  It's not the beauty that gets noticed past the first glance, it's your personality, the way you carry yourself that creates a lasting impression.  Not all average lookers's marriages are compromises like you are claiming.

 It is not going to get them the man they desire, or that job as air hostess a pudgy person might be aspiring to get.

I have seen many great looking guys with average looking wives and vice versa and still happily married.  You can only claim for yourself when you say who's going to get what they desire.  When you make a blanket statement like this, you second guess.  I provided articles to support my pov here.  Why don't you provide some to support how only looks made a relationship successful.

As far as air hostesses, I have seen many average looking gals with great attitude working as air hostesses too.  Can't say it's only looks that gets them the job.  If they do not have the right attitude, they won't be serving the customers with a smile and won't stay on the job long.

Professions ki hee baat aayee hai toh look around you...how many CEOs, CFOs or political leaders you see around you who are successful only because of their looks?  Heck, something as glamorous as bollywood have seen the average looking great attitude people like SRK and Rani ruling the industry.  So please, don't keep on saying that "only" looks will get one everything one wants.

Average girls when competing with gorgeous beauties cannot wear their portfolio on their faces. Not saying it is right all the way, but that's how it is.  πŸ˜Š

People are selceted first based on their resume.  Then they are called for an interview.  So far, I have not seen anyone asking for a picture to be attached with the resumeπŸ˜›  Candidates are shortlisted based on qualifications and experience first.  Rest follows later.  Even then, a good looking one have to be qualified too in the first place to get the interview call and then have to be  talented with a nice attitude to land up the job.  Remember, your side fixed the debate premise as "only looks" or "only" attitude.  You can't keep on expanding the premise nowπŸ˜‰

As long as the job opening is not for a menial wall-flower kind of personal secretary job, it's the attitude and intellect that gets you the job...not just the looks....it's the talent and competency that keeps you employed, not only looks.

Looks can only give one a headstart.  That too when the first interaction is in person.  That edge is gone if first interaction is through a phone interview or pre selection through a resume.

Even for marriage proposals, folks pre select certain bio-datas based on the gal's qualifications, family background, a good word from a common friend, gal's family's economic status and the picture.  No one will go for "only" looks even there.  Once they pre-select some gals, then they go based on looks only and during this process, at times, they end up rejecting some not as good looking but good natured gals.  Once in a relationship..whether based on looks or attitude, rest of the journey depends mostly on one's attitude, talent, intellect, personality...jo man aaye keh loh😊

Edited by Gauri_3 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
Originally posted by: Gauri_3

No qwertoo, no false hopes.  The article is acknowledging what you are trying to turn a blind eye to.  Beauty is just skin deep and beauty without personality/attitude is not going to capture the attention for long.  Inner beauty is what lasts through a lifetime.  Outer beauty fades with time.  ya.. .so? Its like saying just cos we are going to die anyway so lets start smoking.. that point is looks fade with time so does attitude change with life and priorities...and other reasons.... people who start with good attitude may change in wake of harsh realities of life and people with bad attitude may change with some philosophical... shock.. the point is attitude  is victim of circumstances...though we might think that it controls the circumstances.. which happens only when you are lucky...😊

Qwerty, it's critical to know the debate premise that was set up by one of your camper - you either pick "only" looks or "only" attitude.  Attitude here is what th eperson is all about - their thinking, their nature, their personality, their intellect etc.all this can change with time....  What would one pick when looking for a spouse if it has to be either/or..not both or a decent enough combination of both.  Looks looks and only looks...😊

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Posted: 15 years ago

if u want to make comparisons with a pretty aabaa-dabaa or watever kinda female u have up there, then use exactly the opposite on the other side- a great attitude but ugly female. as pointed out eons ago, let's not cherry-pick. ab batao, ugly female ke peeche kaun padega? yaar, acha attitude hai. phir bhee naheen?πŸ˜‰πŸ˜†

as for your example about kingfisher, u missed the point. most of the pretty ones have moved on. mallya might be trying to revive some of that but even so if the pretty ones get modelling or other offers, do u think they'll be glad to pick a tea-serving role in the skies? meanwhile, yes, yes, we can all find exceptions everywhere. ab ussee sahare points khuredna hai toh boloπŸ˜› 

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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: qwertyesque

  ya.. .so? Its like saying just cos we are going to die anyway so lets start smoking.. that point is looks fade with time so does attitude change with life and priorities...and other reasons.... people who start with good attitude may change in wake of harsh realities of life and people with bad attitude may change with some philosophical... shock.. the point is attitude  is victim of circumstances...though we might think that it controls the circumstances.. which happens only when you are lucky...😊

Naheen qwerty.  People do not change overnight.   Our perception of them changes based on our own changing needs or something else.  Other thing is, jab dil miley hotey hain toh saamney waley ki buri baat bhi achhee lagtee hai.  Ek baar dilon mein daraar pad jaye toh sab achhee batein bhi buri lagtee hain.  Tab khoobsoorat banda bhi badsoorat lagney lagta hai.  Therefore, why not go for seerat so that dilon mein daraar padney ki naubat hee na aaye.  Soorat per gaye toh doh din ki chandnee hai.  Phir andheri raat agar seerat buri hai toh😊

As far as life's harsh reality, if attitude is not good, he/she won't be able to stand up to such realities in the first place based on "only" looks.  A person with strong personality comes out winner after going through all the ups and downs of life.....he/she comes out being stronger😊

  Looks looks and only looks...😊

Arrey Gattu, apna na sahee toh apni mom ka toh khayal karo.  Acchey swabhav ki bahu aayee toh unhey kitna maan-samman degi...aur tumhey khush rakheygee so alagπŸ˜‰πŸ˜†

Yaar, whatever works for you.  Public ki suney toh average looking but awesome attitude wala Big B triumphed over hot hunk Vinod Khanna😊

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Posted: 15 years ago

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