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Posted: 13 April 2008 at 1:27pm | IP Logged
Boycotts or protests of these types dont buy you anything, 1980 and 1984 olympics proved it

I just wish people leave the olympics alone, these athletes worldwide train hard to show the world they are good at what they do
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Posted: 13 April 2008 at 2:20pm | IP Logged
I am going to boycott Olympics. Not just Beijing, but the modern Olympics in general. They are an abomination to the pan-hellenic games.

Where is my discus thrower?
Where is zeus's son?
Where are the chariot races?
Where have all the Spartans gone?
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Posted: 14 April 2008 at 1:01am | IP Logged

China think-tank attacks India, calls it 'arrogant'

The Chinese military establishment has gone on an overdrive with its anti-Indian rhetoric, calling it "arrogant" and warning it to stay away from a "path of confrontation".

According to a Chinese defence think-tank, recent military exercises and re-positioning of troops in north Bengal was a kick-start reaction by "an arrogant" India.

Recent postings on the website of the China Institute of International Strategic Studies had an article titled 'A Warning to the Indian Government: Don't Be Evil!' According to the article on www.chinaiiss.org, the present situation was just like in 1962, when India "misjudged the situation" and initiated a war "with the support of two superpowers". India is on the "same old path of confrontation with China" at present, the article posted at the end of last month said.

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Posted: 14 April 2008 at 1:08pm | IP Logged
Well....one thing I can be sure of; boycotting the olympics will have an adverse effect on the Tibet issue instead of helping it out.
It is the Chinese government and not the people of China who are responsible for this entire thing; so the best way to deal with the issue is to let the sportspeople playing the Olympics do the talking. That said....what is the main issue?? China has apparently denied basic human rights to Tibetans in their region, right???
Well.....economically speaking, china happens to be the only country which is insulated against the global recession taking place in teh world due to a decline in the value of the US dollar. If china wants, it can make countries 'very actively' supporting Tibet suffer economically in the near future . India is included, and if this happens..the common Indian man will start resenting Tibet for, to his mind, Tibet would be responsible for the economic deprivation the country will face and Tibet will be in a hard position, a resentful India on one hand and a hateful china on the other. What will a country, having recently gained autonomy, do????
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Posted: 17 April 2008 at 6:54am | IP Logged
So the torch relay ended without any "incident". But it was nothing but a farce as rightly called by Mr.Parthasarthy (Former Diplomat) on Zee News. Itni tight security thi ki 26 Jan ko bhi shayad nahin hoti hogi. Aam Janta kahin nahin thi, no one was allowed (except a few selected ones) on the both sides of Rajpath where it took place. Ek parinda bhi nahin tha, thank god school children were not used as guinea pigs.

It was looking ridiculously embarrassing, one torch runner surrounded by only Commandos and Security personnel. Yeh India hai ki Iraq...aisa kya dar Tibbetan protestors se? Area around India Gate and Rajpath was sealed off after 1 PM (fortunately I managed to pass through that area before it was sealed). It looked like a garrison with thousands of policemen.
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Posted: 17 April 2008 at 5:09pm | IP Logged
As much as we disliked Australia for the cricket team got to hand it out to them for at least making a statement.

"Chinese guards travelling with the Olympic torch could be arrested if they lay hands on protesters in Canberra, an Australian official said today.

Ted Quinlan, the chairman of the Canberra relay taskforce, issued the warning ahead of the flame's visit to the Australian capital next week.

Asked whether the so-called torch attendants would have responsibility for security, he told ABC radio: "The answer is no they won't and, in fact, they could be subject to arrest in fact if they laid a hand on somebody."

The tracksuited Chinese officials, recruited from paramilitary police forces, were heavily criticised for perceived heavy-handed tactics in London and Paris.

The chairman of the 2012 London Olympic Committee, Sebastian Coe, was overheard describing them as "thugs".

The Australian attorney general, Robert McClelland, said security in Canberra would be the responsibility of the federal police.

"The only role that the Chinese officials will play will be to light the torch should it be extinguished," he said.

Australian police have been given tough new powers for the relay on April 24, said Jon Stanhope, the chief minister for the Australian Capital Territory, which covers Canberra.

Police will be authorised to stop and search people along the relay route and ban "prohibited items" such as "balls, eggs, paint bombs and any similar item that is likely to be used as a projectile," said McClelland.

The flame is in Islamabad today. Pakistan is a staunch ally of China and Mohammed Yahya, of the Pakistan Olympic Association (POA), said there was "absolutely no chance of any trouble, any protest".

Nevertheless, instead of carrying the torch along a two-mile route from parliament, as originally planned, the athletes will run around the grounds of Jinnah stadium. Police, many carrying guns, surrounded the stadium and soldiers with sniffer dogs manned the main gate and checked vehicles.

Colonel Baseer Haider, an army official who helped to organise the event, said the route change was made because of the "overall security environment" and the risk of bad weather, after a hailstorm on Tuesday.

The POA urged broadcasters carrying state TV footage of the torch to avoid "negative comments" and to make "no mention" of unrest in Tibet.

Pakistan has strong and long-standing defence and economic links with China. Both are rivals of neighbouring India, which has trimmed the route of its torch relay tomorrow, fearing that protesters might try to disrupt it.

Tibet's exiled spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, and the Tibetan government-in-exile are based in northern India and the country has seen dozens of anti-China protests since last month's riots in Tibet and other regions.

China has said it expects India will take effective steps to protect the torch. Tibetan leaders in India said they were preparing to protest in spite of heavy security."

Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/16/olympicgames2008 .australia

It is the most fair thing to do. People have the right to participate in the torch ceremony as well as protest it. As long as they are peaceful and do not disrupt Australia recognizes the rights of protestors. This is Australia and their national officials will oversee events in their country. No Australian citizen or visitor will be harmed by Chinese officials. Wish India could have done that.
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Posted: 17 April 2008 at 5:12pm | IP Logged

Originally posted by SolidSnake

So the torch relay ended without any "incident". But it was nothing but a farce as rightly called by Mr.Parthasarthy (Former Diplomat) on Zee News. Itni tight security thi ki 26 Jan ko bhi shayad nahin hoti hogi. Aam Janta kahin nahin thi, no one was allowed (except a few selected ones) on the both sides of Rajpath where it took place. Ek parinda bhi nahin tha, thank god school children were not used as guinea pigs.

It was looking ridiculously embarrassing, one torch runner surrounded by only Commandos and Security personnel. Yeh India hai ki Iraq...aisa kya dar Tibbetan protestors se? Area around India Gate and Rajpath was sealed off after 1 PM (fortunately I managed to pass through that area before it was sealed). It looked like a garrison with thousands of policemen.

So the Olympics have ceased being a spectator sport and are now a private invitation only event.

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Posted: 21 April 2008 at 10:35am | IP Logged

Originally posted by chal_phek_mat

Boycotts or protests of these types dont buy you anything, 1980 and 1984 olympics proved it

disagree. the image of those games was soiled. the sponsors also likely took a huge hit. yes, the berlin wall sure didnt come tumbling down, but we dont need big-time things to happen to prove things all the time.Smile

I just wish people leave the olympics alone, these athletes worldwide train hard to show the world they are good at what they do

the innocents who get killed because of oppression also deserve to be able to lead their lives. they too probably trained hard in schools, colleges before their lives were snuffed out by tyrants. olympics to me is just another event. they wrap it up in soapy melodrama to jack up the ratings. lots of garbage otherwise. even the "good" athletes would take dope to win if they think they could get away with it, so much for any idealism.

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