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You got me wrong there. I too detest some of their policies and their preachy attitude but to me what is happening in our neighbourhood and what our good neighbours are doing is much more important because that is of direct consequence to us.
About US global cop role and interfering in others matters, it interferes others matters only if they give into them. (bole to woh doosre ke phate mein taang adaate hain kyonki doose unko apne phate mein taang adaane dete hain) Why these Arab nations have US bases if they are so critical of US policies? US would not have been able to invade Iraq they did not have the support of their allies in the Gulf and these bases, they have troops and war machinery there since decades. Similarly if any future military action is taken against Iran I can assure you these bases'll be used and they'll have the support of likes of Saudi Arabia because of well known reasons.
Similar is the case with Afganistan, because they had bases in Pakistan and support of Pakistan Govt (not to mention anti-Taliban forces) they were able to invade Afganistan and defeat Taliban. Personally I don't think invasion of Iraq and Afganistan was wrong but they stayed there for too long, they should have handed over the power to locals immidietely (esp in Iraq).
So unless local govts and people protest, it would be foolish for us to do the same.
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The important question is not about how powerful or how manipulative it is but how it chooses to use its strengths. The interest of a country is the interest of its people. If America considered its own interest then it would have considered the welfare of its own people. However, the nation has forgotten interests of its own citizens and the world for the benefit of a few choice people. The biggest problem in America is its hypocritical stand on policies.
We are talking about America here. Every country has their own flaws. There are bad representatives for every nation. The problem is that it American behavior has slowly become a global concern.
Where did I ever condone terrorism or acts of violence. We are talking about ideological standpoint here and one can make a point without violence.
Is the word 'fight' or 'compete'???
I am not sure what the correct word is. However, I would say a more appropriate terms would be 'reality check' 'plant their feet back on the ground' 'unplug the power trip'
when someone is wealthy,powerful, they are supposed to use their power for the good or welfare of others, if that is power trip for some, then so be it
Umm what good and welfare of others are you talking about. If that good and welfare existed this debate would not be taking place.
I am not sure why every Indian grows up hating America ( even I did, until I saw the other side of the fence)...
Hate is a strong word, but they really really really really don't like us. Not just Indians, Europeans, South Americans, Canadians, Mexicans, Asians, Africans pretty much the rest of the world does not seem to think highly of us. It's the pricks that run the country that creates a bad name for everyone. It is wrong for people to make assumptions about Americans but they cannot be blamed as it is natural to be cautious. Once they get to know a more diverse cross section of Americans they will perhaps change their mind
What most of those Pricks do is they look after the interests of their countrymen the first and foremost, now if that is unfathomable to people, perhaps some fast learning classes can be conducted that teach the reality, your benefit comes before "freedom, equality etc", but other than that nothing can be done to remove the ignorance of those "not so enlightened". Sorry since we are down to the name calling, I think that should be acceptable, shouldnt it?
If America actually looked after its own people then it would not be so much of a concern. At least the nation looks well after its own people. However, the American government has done nothing to look after its own people. How many people cannot even afford basic healthcare? How many of our own veterans who lost limbs fighting for our country are now living on the streets? How many of our own citizens live in substandard housing, without basic amenities? How many infants are frozen to death each year because there is no heating facilities? How many teenagers drop out of school to work? How many children were left behind? How many youth live in neighborhoods so dangerous that some will not live to see seventeen?
There are hundreds of questions that can be asked to our American government. What have they done for us? How have we the people benefited from the choices our country made? If there was even a small percent of improvement for the citizens, I would not be upset so much.
Pardon me but it bothers me that I am giving the government interest free loans to blow people up each year than make a difference in the community I live it and it bothers me further when people justify these actions that result in a lose lose situation for American citizens and our governments victims.
Good and Welfare of the world, lets start with clearing some misconceptiosn(or perhaps made out assumptions based upon personal preferences).
People that hate/dislike America, Africa, Well in the past 8 years America under the "pricks of today" has more than doubled its own efforts for the African continent in helping in Debt releif, AIDS prevention, hunger etc. That is double of what America was spending before, and 4 times what the rest of your "non-prick" leaders of the world are even thinking of spending. Yes America holds the leaders of the country accountable for the aid and effort that goes in
So after this you say Africa dislikes America, then perhaps the people are not into being accountable for their actions or perhaps you have no idea whether or not they dislike America
Coming to Asia(lets be specific India). The people on the other side of terrorism that India faces are the same people that America is beating up in Afghanistan. So to the very least there are atleast 4-5 million Indian families(of soldiers positioned in the Northern borders) that should be thankful, b'cos there is someone backing their effort, someone with a governmental influence. Now if the Indian ministers cannot be thankful for the lives of their own soldiers then perhaps we should be questioning the "non-prick" Indian leaders, Now due to the disjointed efforts of the two countries, the people who plan these attacks have to go to Pakistan to conduct their works, but that is more b'cos that's the only place where they have found safe haven. Now you might dislike the "Pricks" in America if you dont appreciate someone trying to stop bombing the train you are in or the building that you are in. But if you are in one of those buildings and if you are not thankful, then perhaps it is a different story
About Afghanistan, I am sure you would have loved the life in Afghanistan before the Talban got flushed away. I am sure the Burkhas are very very comfy there and the pleasures of life were out of the world that would make you "dislike" the American effort, what Say
Now when America gets into those countries they put their own companies in charge of everything. And Lobbyism makes that possible. And if you think Lobbyism only started 8 years ago then you need to start reading "Washington Post" more often. And Yes the direct competitors are of the European countries. And now they lost out on a big time contracts and theu propents the European politicians lost out on a big payday. Sure they are going to hate/dislike the "Prick leaders of America". But that is just how the world works
Lets talk local.
About healthcare and social welfare. Well the best chance for healthcare is when you are employed in America. Now if you are unemployed you get state benefits, but then you are suppsed to get a job, once you lose that job you are on your own, there is a line of people for that I am sure you know. And you choose not to make the effort to retain your job, that is too bad sorry after that you are responsible for your own self after that. And for this point everyone agreed including the Clintons and the Obama's.So if holding someone accountable is "being a Prick" well that it is then
The way I was remember democracy was "For the people, By the People, To the People". There is no word called Government in it. The current "Pricks" in power have a simple say. We cant manage your money, we dont know what is important for you, we dont want to make assumptions for you. You have your money back in the taxes you paid and use it for whatever you feel is appropriate. Governements everywhere have a weak ability to utilize the moneies for the right reasons. After 150-160 years of American Government history you should have enough of a proof to show you that.So atleast the current "Pricks" are honest in understanding a governements limitation.
Now the responsiblty for spending the money wisely is upon the citizens. If the Citizens are so worried about social welfare, They should write a check to a welfare cause for that tax benefit every month. And certainly that $600-$2000 you get as tax rebate later in the year should be given to someone of your favourite charity, if you so mean what you feel badly about. Unfortunately most people want to "talk the talk" but not "walk the talk" so the social welfare has gone down
Now if you blame the "Pricks" for the sorry state of effort today then perhaps you just are using a personal grudge to blame someone for something general public isnt doing
Now to prove the point Lets take it global again, back to Africa. American govt sends the money to the African Govt for all the welfare causes and holds their govts accountable for them. Now if they(the govts) are not able to meet the standards on everything like eductation, hunger, poverty, debts, AIDS programs they are questioned. The hard numbers of how the money is supposed to be spent is the cost of education per child is about $500/month, food is another $500/year, yearly condoms for the parents about $100- so they dont spread around the AIDS anymore, cost is about $2000/family of one.
Contrast this with the program of the favourite cheerleader of your "non-prick leaders", spend $20 million for education of
Opens up a educational instituite for education 60 kids in those $20 million
Lets take a vote Whose program is more far ranging
About Heathcare in America, yes the cost of Healthcare is high, but there is the highest level of personal accountability for the healthcare proffesionals in the world. You make a mistake here, you will lose everything including your undergarments. The lawyers ensure that and guess who keeps those personal liability laws around Who are the Lawyers bidders in this whole thing?.
There have been efforts to provide "Cheap healthcare to poor". But everytime has failed b'cos the patients want a big payday and sue the doctor. The cost of medication is high in this country b'cos most of the research work is done here and now if someone wants all of that to be made free, then perhaps they reached the wrong land. This is a the "land of the free", not the land of the "freeloaders". Here you work hard, make money you get things, when someone sits on their lazy bums, and wants services provided they get pushed to the curbside
I am not sure if the defination of the word "Prick" changed in the recent times
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