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chatbuster
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yes. i am still maintaining that they r not born with low IQs.
Glad to hear that....Nobody is, does IQ granter provider IQ based on who can be rich or poor, guess not. But type casting poor as having low IQ is not right IMO.
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on the contrary, i think people are born with different IQ levels- it's a combination of nature/ genes and nurture. and sadly i think the poor do have lower IQs/ brains. am not talking narrowly here about what they would score on a standardized test, but on a broader definition of "brains".
apart from genes, the lower IQ might be attributable to their circumstances- poor health and nutrition, limited opportunities for advancement, to gain exposure, limited education and confidence levels etc. These all play a symbiotic role in how the brain/ mind and in fact the entire personality develops, and in whether someone would have the zeal or the talent to rise above their station in life.
as for typecasting, that's what the debate is about. not that we are necessarily doing it for any noble reasons, but typecasting is implicitly what researchers do to develop solutions.
corvette
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Here is another debate:
Poor people are poor , cause they have low IQs , otherwise, they would've made their own ways eventually to get rich ..Nah....that's not it
You wanna meet my husband's Gran mate! I've never met a person of her age who are usually expected to lose their marbles......and she outwits us everytime! The saying in my family is "God only knows what would have happened if she had been eduacated!!!!"
Or
It is nothing to do with IQ it is more of the chances of opportunity .Much more likely to be the answer. Somebody has to break the mould somewhere though. If you look at a lot of the people that came from Indai tot he UK they came here for a better way of life and worked their socks off to try and get for themselves and principally for their children. A lot of that hard work is now reaping benefits in the educated classes we have today certainly in the UK that are now comfortable and enjoying high standards of living.
But if those same people had stayed in India, I'm not so sure they would be quite where they are now.......attitudes are different there. It seems though globally the rich do keep getting richer whilst the poor are eternally poor.
Really unfair.
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sweetmagic4u
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poverty is the state initiated by subliminal dilemma bet' the right and wrong, good and the bad...
And ironically, I'm usually not an optimist
Gauri_3
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sweetmagic4u
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So there's street smart, IQ smart, hardworking, opportunity, and luck..
I think it takes a combination of at least two to get rich...
What do you guys think of:
(a) Spoiled brats of rich parents
(b) Game show winners
(c) lottery winners
(d) gold-diggers (either gender)
Just curious 
~Shalini~
qwertyesque
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poverty is the state initiated by subliminal dilemma bet' the right and wrong, good and the bad...
And ironically, I'm usually not an optimist
thats what i am saying some do it and others can't that confusion remains on teh boundary of right and wrong....if I could do wrong I could be rich...
raj5000
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yes. i am still maintaining that they r not born with low IQs.
Glad to hear that....Nobody is, does IQ granter provider IQ based on who can be rich or poor, guess not. But type casting poor as having low IQ is not right IMO.
on the contrary, i think people are born with different IQ levels- it's a combination of nature/ genes and nurture. and sadly i think the poor do have lower IQs/ brains. am not talking narrowly here about what they would score on a standardized test, but on a broader definition of "brains".
apart from genes, the lower IQ might be attributable to their circumstances- poor health and nutrition, limited opportunities for advancement, to gain exposure, limited education and confidence levels etc. These all play a symbiotic role in how the brain/ mind and in fact the entire personality develops, and in whether someone would have the zeal or the talent to rise above their station in life.
as for typecasting, that's what the debate is about. not that we are necessarily doing it for any noble reasons, but typecasting is implicitly what researchers do to develop solutions.
First of all, we might have to define I/Q then, am strictly off of measure of intellegence. More of efficiency/capability of brain.
Nuture, that you mentioned, is an interesting point...nuture might help feeding the right information/instruction to the brain, but w/o level of I/Q within individual will be of no use.
chatbuster
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