Are individuals responsible for everythin (Page 5)

Originally posted by rockstallion

Originally posted by qwertyesque

Originally posted by rockstallion

if a person is in the right place , at the right time, then this is because of his actions... not really it can be that he is lucky with the outcome of his actions.....
all his efforts of banging alarm on time more of a reflex..., hurring down in pants on time the zipper ddidnt get stuck..., driving in to the right place..car didnt run out of gas...or .and reaching on time..didnt get a traffic jam. so right place on right time.....luckily...

tho is ka rocket science hua , our actions with some amount of luck are responsible for what happens with us....

like more often we are at the wrong place at the wrong time..again luck and fate.....

 , lol,

see, alarm case, reflex is more of a action and no lucky charm here yes but when we say action its more like voluntary action taken by will not anything...

now zipper did'nt get stuck,  is yet a careful action taken by an individual in that hussle bussle situation....no luck here too...nahi yaar woh ghatiya zipper tha.. phas gaya.. aur dono ore sey khul gaya...

car did'nt run out of gas , it didnt coz he was mindful of his empty car tank, and filled in enough for the trip...so again some mind play here and not lucky draw....of free gas..... agar itna mindful hoke jine lage humare pupils bhi dilated and we would be prowling instead of walking....

did'nt get a traffic jam.- he was clever enough to take the other route... if he could get out of the jam in first place.. ab accident kisi aur ki action se hua tabbhi toh iss ka toh fate hee hua na!!!?????

and zoomed in at the right place at the right time....sounds like rocket launching....taking all credit for his actions.... and i know not luck he said  

So according to you people who jumped out of WTC on 9/11 were just victims of their action and not fate!!!???? What if fate drives us to get into action...unfortunate people who live through unfortunate circumstances are mostly fate driven and not action driven.... like they dont have a project plan for crime execution...

Originally posted by qwertyesque

Originally posted by rockstallion

Originally posted by qwertyesque

Originally posted by rockstallion

if a person is in the right place , at the right time, then this is because of his actions... not really it can be that he is lucky with the outcome of his actions.....
all his efforts of banging alarm on time more of a reflex..., hurring down in pants on time the zipper ddidnt get stuck..., driving in to the right place..car didnt run out of gas...or .and reaching on time..didnt get a traffic jam. so right place on right time.....luckily...

tho is ka rocket science hua , our actions with some amount of luck are responsible for what happens with us....

like more often we are at the wrong place at the wrong time..again luck and fate.....

 , lol,

see, alarm case, reflex is more of a action and no lucky charm here yes but when we say action its more like voluntary action taken by will not anything...

now zipper did'nt get stuck,  is yet a careful action taken by an individual in that hussle bussle situation....no luck here too...nahi yaar woh ghatiya zipper tha.. phas gaya.. aur dono ore sey khul gaya...

car did'nt run out of gas , it didnt coz he was mindful of his empty car tank, and filled in enough for the trip...so again some mind play here and not lucky draw....of free gas..... agar itna mindful hoke jine lage humare pupils bhi dilated and we would be prowling instead of walking....

did'nt get a traffic jam.- he was clever enough to take the other route... if he could get out of the jam in first place.. ab accident kisi aur ki action se hua tabbhi toh iss ka toh fate hee hua na!!!?????

and zoomed in at the right place at the right time....sounds like rocket launching....taking all credit for his actions.... and i know not luck he said  

So according to you people who jumped out of WTC on 9/11 were just victims of their action and not fate!!!???? What if fate drives us to get into action...unfortunate people who live through unfortunate circumstances are mostly fate driven and not action driven.... like they dont have a project plan for crime execution...

what is your problem, mera post hai, mera example agar right time right place pahunch raha hai....tho tum uske zipper ke peeche kuon padhe ho.... 

(ab tho even i  feel disgusting to have mentioned...hurring down in pants...)

and i was saying actions are responsible and its not lady luck everywhere, and u bringing fate of twin towers.....bheech mai...,kya yaar....

arey fate hi tho sab ka baap hai....

Go the copy book way of living, make your best efforts still one finds them dissatisfied, stressed and struggling at each moment of life.

Even without following norms of society…values enhanced life one finds them having a roll in life.

Why do some people who do everything right in life still end up struggling? Fate..blah??? Arguable point trying toput up front here is are individuals or their actions responsible of wateva is going on in their life? Or there are external xyz factors…if yes what are those and why?

I am still a bit confused about this question

What I think , people who are considered lucky , infact have a great sense of perception about best opportunity. So they feel the opportunity way before others feel, so they become the right person at right time and right place.

though some times life have weird surprises

Actually thats true only in hindsight, contrary to that most successful people have taken the most wierd pathways in life which people dont tread on cognizantly......

Succes in nothing but a matter of strong and fiery conviction, and hellish perseverence....Most failures are because people just give up..at some point... 

and in all this chaos you have to be damn lucky...

How would you know if it was due to their sense of perception rather than luck.... there is a possibility of them percieving out comes even with wierd ways. since the route they followed were strange paths... how many yale students will drop out to become the new bill gates..there are exceptions like scientists - who have their tangible abilities to corroborate... everywhere else there is nothing but luck...still people dont sell news papers in stations with the intention or expectations of becoming an Edison...

Persistence is required in everything , even for constant failure one has to be persistantly  a looser not really people give up more easilly.. to prove this try learning the piano.. and or do something veri new....which u have never done before...and you will know how easy its to give up...just kidding ... yes in some cases , we simply can't define the factors contributing to outcomes of certain actions