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Vinzy

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Posted: 08 August 2009 at 12:41pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by angie.4u

Originally posted by Believe

Whoever created it, that creator is God. But do you see the implication? If the world is created, thre can b no evolution....
 
Evolution means creation continues.....Bt God cannot create an incomplete world....Neither he nor the world is evolving. .......Everything will be at a standstill.

This is the reason why popes are against Charles Darwin. Because that man was bringing an idea which is going to kill God sooner or later. Those Popes could see the far-away implications of the idea of evolution...

Sorry to butt in like this Vinu, Embarrassed But what makes U think that the creation process is complete ? ^^^^I feel that the process of creation is still continuing & thats why there is evolution al the time. Evolution not only in physical terms but in spiritual terms also .
As for popes or any other religious head , they too are evolving and at different stages of evolution . They are human after all . As for the far implication of the idea of evolution - I really do not see why it shold "kill" God ! Rather as one becomes more "evolved " one wud soon realise the underlying unity in matter-energy, science & religion. Hopefully we will all one day realise that there IS NO CONFLICT ! Smile---I think science and religion is like one birds two wings,Science is the search for truth of objective world...and relgion is the search for the subjective world....Smile

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Posted: 11 August 2009 at 10:25pm | IP Logged

i believe in god. but i gusse if ur praying for something u want...& if ur doing that from the bottom of ur heart..then god will give it to u...only if its gud for u :)

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Posted: 10 September 2009 at 4:18am | IP Logged

yes.. i believe in god...

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Posted: 10 September 2009 at 8:47am | IP Logged
ya I believe in god.....Tongue

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Posted: 11 September 2009 at 8:45am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Believe

Most of People Fear God, i dont know why!!?
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Good one have a look on this!!!
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An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class
on the problem science has with God, The Almighty.

He asks one of his new students to stand and.....

Prof: So you believe in God?

Student: Absolutely, sir.

Prof: Is God good?

Student: Sure.

Prof: Is God all-powerful?

Student: Yes.

Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed
to God to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help
others who are ill. But God didn't. How is this God
good then? Hmm ?

Student: (Student is silent.)

Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start again,
young fella. Is God good?

Student: Yes.

Prof: Is Satan good?

Student: No.

Prof: Where does Satan come from?

Student: From.....God...

Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this
world?

Student: Yes.

Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it?

Student : Yes .

Prof : And God did make everything. Correct?

Student: Yes.

Prof: So who created evil?

Student: (Student does not answer.)

Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness?
All these terrible things exist in the world, don't
they?

Student: Yes, sir.

Prof: So, who created them?

Student: (Student has no answer.)

Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to
identify and observe the world around you. Tell me,
son...Have you ever seen God?

Student: No, sir.

Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?

Student: No , sir.

Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God,
smelt your God? Have you ever had any sensory
perception of God for that matter?

Student: No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.

Prof: Yet you still believe in Him?

Student: Yes.

Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable
protocol, science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do
you say to that, son?

Student: Nothing. I only have my faith.

Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.

Student: Professor, is there such a thing as heat?

Prof: Yes.

Student: And is there such a thing as cold?

Prof: Yes.

Student: No sir. There isn't.

(The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn
of events.)

Student: Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more
heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat
or no heat. But we don't have anything called cold. We
can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but
we can't go any further after that. There is no such
thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe
the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold.

Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir,
just the absence of it.

(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)

Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such
a thing as darkness?

Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?

Student: You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the
absence of something. You can have low light, normal
light, bright light, flashing light....But if you have
no light constantly, you have nothing and it's called
darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't. If it
were, you would be able to make darkness darker,
wouldn't you?

Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man?

Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise
is flawed.

Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how?

Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of
duality. You argue there is life and then there is
death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the
concept of God as something finite, something we can
measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It
uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen,
much less fully understood either one. To view death
as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact
that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death
is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it.

Student : Now tell me, Professor , do you teach your
students that they evolved from a monkey?

Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary
process, yes, of course, I do.

Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your
own eyes, sir?

(The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning
to realize where the argument is going.)

Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of
evolution at work and cannot even prove that this
process is an on-going endeavour, are you not teaching
your opinion, Sir? Are you not a scientist but a
preacher ?

(The class is in uproar.)

Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever
seen the Professor's brain?

(The class breaks out into laughter.)

Student: Is there anyone here who has ever heard the
Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt
it?.....No one appears to have done so. So, according
to the established rules of empirical, stable,
demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no
brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then
trust your lectures, sir ?

(The room is silent. The professor stares at the
student, his face unfathomable.)

Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.

Student: That is it sir.. The link between man & God
is FAITH. That is all that keeps things moving & alive


The student was.......... "Albert Einsten"
Big smile Smile
 
 
Wooow, GREAT story, really magnificent explanation!Clap

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Posted: 11 September 2009 at 8:47am | IP Logged
I believe in God with the bottom of my heart. Without God, my life is nothing.Embarrassed No event in my life so far has ever doubted my faith in God and I know it never will. It is our Karma which affects the sufferings/happinesses heaped on us. We get the fruit of our own actions, so to blame God for the sorrows in our life is wrong.

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Posted: 12 September 2009 at 1:32am | IP Logged

but since everything happens as per God's will isnt God to blame or shud we say that some things happen against the will of God so he is not to blame ?

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