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Idle return_to_hades

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Posted: 15 June 2009 at 8:42pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by *Woh Ajnabee*


But Labib, why would you want to associate yourself with a religion when you question/disbelieve or are unsure of its basic foundational beliefs? You question the existence of God, the creationist stories, etc, then why do you want to be called a Muslim is my question.

Just a thought, no offense intended. Smile


I know that this is directed at Labib, but just adding a few cents since I know quite a few people who identify with a religion and prefer to be known as follower of said religion even though they disagree a lot with popular tenets. Two reasons that are prominent. On is that religion is not merely a religion but a socio-cultural identity for people raised under a certain religion. No matter what that identity is preserved. Secondly, many people interpret religion in their own way or believe that religion adapts with time. Even though they may not subscribe to the popular beliefs, they truly feels that their religion and God allow them the freedom of interpretation or that for a religion to be viable it ought not stick to old fashioned beliefs.

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Posted: 15 June 2009 at 10:13pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by return_to_hades

Originally posted by *Woh Ajnabee*


But Labib, why would you want to associate yourself with a religion when you question/disbelieve or are unsure of its basic foundational beliefs? You question the existence of God, the creationist stories, etc, then why do you want to be called a Muslim is my question.

Just a thought, no offense intended. Smile


I know that this is directed at Labib, but just adding a few cents since I know quite a few people who identify with a religion and prefer to be known as follower of said religion even though they disagree a lot with popular tenets. Two reasons that are prominent. On is that religion is not merely a religion but a socio-cultural identity for people raised under a certain religion. No matter what that identity is preserved. Secondly, many people interpret religion in their own way or believe that religion adapts with time. Even though they may not subscribe to the popular beliefs, they truly feels that their religion and God allow them the freedom of interpretation or that for a religion to be viable it ought not stick to old fashioned beliefs.

Yup !

Actually, i have always believed religion to be more related with socio-cultural identity more than anything else. It cannot show us the perfect path to follow can it?

I mean, those who wrote those books or made those religions were also humans only no?

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Posted: 16 June 2009 at 3:41am | IP Logged
Originally posted by return_to_hades



On what premises are the conditions for the two cases determined? I do not see why existence of God needs high frequency of positive events or that free will determines absence of God. Whats the rationale behind the test conditions?


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user "return to hades" argument "high frequency of good events proves god is not necessary/not logical according to me" and "free will determining absence of god is also not necessary"
question"What is the rationale behind these conditions"

my answer:"conditions based on assumption god is there to protect the population"
however:"population must look after themselves"
then theory:"god created population and population to be self sustaining" is true
but new question is:"where is god?"
your answer?
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I believe in god 100%Tongue In life you need to have faith, it does not matter where you place it. Some people place their faith in science and some like me place it in godBig smile

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Posted: 16 June 2009 at 7:14am | IP Logged

Originally posted by Angelic_J

I believe in god 100%Tongue In life you need to have faith, it does not matter where you place it.
It cud also mean that man created God as he needed to have faith Ermm

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Originally posted by Angelic_J

I believe in god 100%Tongue In life you need to have faith, it does not matter where you place it.
It cud also mean that man created God as he needed to have faith Ermm

Actually that could very well be 100% trueTongue In fact I do think god is man madeLOL but if ur faith in him gets u through life, there shouldn't be any problem with believing in him EVEN if he is man-madeBig smile

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