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Posted: 18 October 2007 at 10:28pm | IP Logged
Alien Bases: The Mystery of the MoonUFOs & Aliens

Posted on Friday, March 31, 2006 (CST) by Thoth

Apollo 16 - UFOFor tens of thousands of years mankind has looked to the Moon as a source of superstition and wonderment. When Neil Armstrong took that historical first step on the moon on July 21st 1969, it seemed that mankind had finally conquered our enigmatic satellite. But did we, or did we simply scratch the surface and beat a hasty retreat?

There are dozens of anomalous facts concerning the moon that science is at a loss to explain, not least of which is how it is that according to the analysis of moon rocks, the moon, is at least a billion years older than the Earth itself. This fact alone seems to defy logic, and is something that modern cosmology is unable to explain, if the moon isn't a fragment of the Earth, what is it, and how did it get here?

When you couple that with the fact that an awful lot of people believe the moon to be an alien base of some kind, we begin to realise that we no nearer understand the moon now, than our ancestors did thousands of years ago.

Moon base

The Apollo Moon landings heralded a new era in mankind's technological development, man had finally left our own planet, travelled around 385,000 km and was walking on a new and unfamiliar territory. It seemed to all that we had the perfect opportunity to further our understanding of how our universe was created and our knowledge of the moon itself. During the next three years, six missions to the moon were made and a total of twelve astronauts walked on the moon.

The US has been victorious in the space race between them and what was then the Soviet Union and it seemed natural that they would formalise that victory and claim their territory with something more substantial than planting the American flag. At the very least, it was expected that NASA would create a long term strategy for rock and mineral sampling and exploring the surface of the moon.

Apollo 17 - Jack SchmittEach of the six lunar expeditions NASA had committed itself to were completed, although the Apollo 13 mission was unsuccessful. However, after Apollo 17, no new missions were scheduled. According to the space agency, there was 'nothing else that could be learned' from visiting the moon and the program was shelved. Likewise the former Soviet Union carried out its scheduled lunar exploration and then quietly sidelined its projects. Some commentators have suggested that both superpowers realised that the idea of creating moon bases or long term missions was cost prohibitive.

A growing number of people however, are convinced that both superpowers were 'warned off' by an extraterrestrial race that had already established a base on the far side of the moon. In any case, shortly after its 'discovery', the moon was abandoned by both superpowers that chose instead to invest tens of billions of dollars doing little more than flying around in circles; for the next thirty years the continuous orbiting of our own planet took priority to the scientific exploration of the moon. It is only recently that plans have been announced for a new expedition and a base to be constructed on the moon, even so, most of the work will be done with robots and humans will not actually return to the moon until 2018.

An Alien Base on the Moon

Creating a base on the moon has been a dream for many people over the years, but is there actually a base on the moon already – one that's not of our making?

To many people the idea that the moon could be an alien base sounds preposterous; a fanciful claim straight out of comic books, but there are many strange facts about the moon and the Apollo landing itself that do suggest that our knowledge is far from complete. In fact there is sufficient evidence for us to consider the idea that the moon itself is an artificial construct, a massive extraterrestrial base

Neil ArmstrongOne of the most notable pieces to support the alien base theory are several radio transmissions between the Apollo crew and mission control. Part of the transmission where Armstrong mentioned 'strange lights' was apparently broadcast live as was Armstrong's comment 'We have company' before NASA officials hurriedly pulled the plug. A variety of sources claim that radio hams picked up the following communication before the crew switched to a secure channel.

"These babies are huge, sir...enormous....Oh, God, you wouldn't believe it! I'm telling you there are other spacecraft out there...lined up on the far side of the crater edge...they're on the moon watching us..."

Transient Lunar Phenomenon (TLP)

Transient Lunar Phenomenon is the term used to describe the inexplicable change of colour or shape that occurs on the surface of the moon. Could this account for what the Apollo 11 astronauts witnessed? It is thought that some of these phenomena which appear as red or white hazes are caused by gas escaping from underground cavities after moonquakes, so it can't be ruled out as natural phenomena. The question is, would two highly trained astronauts mistake escaping gas for alien craft? It's certainly possible but if that was the case surely NASA would have been quick to tell us this?

It's not just strange coloured lights that appear on the moon. In 1953, John J. O'Neill and Dr H. Wilkens both independently observed a 12-mile-long 'bridge' straddling the crater Mare Crisium. The bridge later disappeared!

Telling Transcripts and the NASA Officials who spoke out

Ten years after the moon landings, Maurice Chatelain, the former chief of NASA Communications Systems, confirmed that Armstrong did report seeing two UFOs on the rim of a crater. "The encounter was common knowledge in NASA," he revealed, "but nobody has talked about it until now."

Another NASA official, Christopher Kraft, who was director of the NASA tracking base in Houston during the Apollo Moon missions, revealed the following conversation between Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin and Mission Control after he left NASA:

Apollo 11: "Those are giant things. No, no, no .... this is not an optical illusion. No one is going to believe this!"
Mission Control (Houston Center): "What...what...what? What the hell is happening? What's wrong with you?"
Apollo 11: "They're here under the surface."
Mission Control: "What's there? Emission interrupted...interference control calling Apollo II."
Apollo 11: "We saw some visitors. They were there for awhile, observing the instruments."
Mission Control: "Repeat your last information."
Apollo 11: "I say that there were other spaceships. They're lined up on the other side of the crater."
Mission Control: "Repeat...repeat!"
Apollo 11: "Let us sound this orbit a ..... In 625 to5...automatic relay connected...My hands are shaking so badly I can't do anything. Film it? God, if these damned cameras have picked up anything. What then?"
Mission Control: "Have you picked up anything?"
Apollo 11: "I didn't have any film at hand. Three shots of the saucers or whatever they were that were ruining the film."
Mission Control: "Control, control here. Are you on your way? Is the uproar with the U.F.O's. over?
Apollo 11: "They've landed there. There they are and they are watching us."
Mission Control: "The mirrors, the mirrors...have you set them up?"
Apollo 11: "Yes, they're in the right place. But whoever made those space ships surely can come tomorrow and remove them. Over and out."

If the Apollo report was a one off, we could maybe put it down to the effects of space or some unknown anomalous lunar phenomena. However, there have been several other 'contacts' between NASA craft and UFOs, notably in the early 90's when according to author William Kliner the following conversation between David Walker, Endeavours shuttle and mission control was recorded.

Walker: "Bogey at 3 o'clock . . . God . . . what is it? My God - it's coming right at us . . ."
NASA: What's there?
Walker: THERE'S NO WAY! Oh God! Get back. MOVE!"
NASA: Endeavour! Endeavour! What . . . explain . . .
Walker: What the . . . where are we? Where is it? Where . . . it's gone IT'S GONE. Not (unintelligible) . . . UFO. Spacecraft . . . huge . . . intelligent . . . OVER THERE!
NASA: Endeavour. Switch . . . NOW!

The tape ends abruptly with what would appear to be a NASA order for Walker to change radio frequency.

According to Kilner, "…the spacecraft was the size of a small city and glowed bright green as it approached the shuttle. At some point during the encounter, the UFO veered off course to avoid a collision."

If this really was an alien spaceship, where was it coming from or going to we wonder? Could it be that sitting there on the far side of the moon is an alien base?

The Far Side of the Moon

Moon OrbitThe moon is the only moon in the solar system that has a stationary, near-perfect circular orbit. Over the eons, the gravitational forces of the Earth have slowed down the moon's rotation about its axis until the rotational period exactly matches the revolution period of the Earth. This means that there is one side of the moon that we never see from Earth. In theory, the far side of the moon, often referred to as the dark side of the moon could easily contain an alien base, as this is the side of the moon that we never ever see, even radio signals are blocked in that area.

There is another theory about alien bases being on the moon which states that the whole of the moon is a completely artificial construct that was put there by an alien race when life on Earth began.

Our Unnatural Satellite

One of the strange facts about the moon is that it appears to be hollow. As the Earth's natural satellite the moon has always been assumed to be a homogenous sphere that was created at the same time as the Earth, but there are various indications that this is not the case, as we've already mentioned, the moon is older than the Earth.

Evidence for the moon being hollow comes from a variety of experts and in some cases predates the lunar landings. In 1962, Dr. Gordon MacDonald, one of NASAs own scientists reviewed data relating to the density of the Earth, which calculated that the moon's mean density was 3.34 gm/cm3 (3.34 times an equal volume of water), in comparison the Earth's density is 5.5 gm/cm3. This led him to observe, "If the astronomical data are reduced, it is found that the data requires that the interior of the moon is more like a hollow than a homogeneous sphere."

The Nobel award winning chemist Dr. Harold Urey, has also suggested that the moon contains a 'cavity' and MIT's Dr. Sean C. Solomon is on record as saying, "the Lunar Orbiter experiments vastly improved our knowledge of the moon's gravitational field . . . indicating the frightening possibility that the moon might be hollow."

According to Dr Carl Sagan in his treatise, 'Intelligent Life in the Universe', "A natural satellite cannot be a hollow object. If this is true and the moon is indeed hollow then that suggests that there is something very strange about our satellite."

There is further evidence from NASA missions that suggests the moon is hollow. When the crews of Apollo 12 and Apollo 13 jettisoned modules onto the moon's surface, they found that they created artificial moon quakes. The impact from the Apollo 12 jettison caused the moon to reverberate like a bell for over an hour. This phenomenon was repeated with Apollo 13 with even more amazing results; in all the reverberation lasted for three hours and twenty minutes and travelled to a depth of twenty-five miles. Analysis of this data led to the conclusion that the moon has no substantial core. If the moon is indeed artificial, it could have been put into place at any time during Earth's history.

Since the Dawn of Time

The MoonTexts from as far a field as Europe and South America speak of ancient people who lived on Earth before the Earth had a moon In Greece they were called Proselene, meaning 'before the moon'. Apparently, in South America, symbols found on the wall of the Courtyard of Kalasasaya, near the city of Tiahuanaco (in Bolivia), record that the moon first appeared around 12,000 years ago. The appearance of the moon was said to have caused great disruption to the Earth in the form of earthquakes, massive flooding and climate changes. Interestingly, this remote site has been suggested by some scholars as being the actual location of Plato's legendary Atlantis and this great planetary upheaval as being the cataclysmic event that destroyed Atlantis.

The idea of a world without a moon also survives in oral tradition among the Indians of the Bogota highlands in the eastern Cordilleras of Colombia. "In the earliest times, when the moon was not yet in the heavens," say the tribesmen of Chibchas, when relating to ancient times. Whether this method of story telling relates to an actual physical absence of the moon or is simply used as a metaphor to say a very long time ago is open to debate. The truth is we just don't know whether it is yet another tantalising piece of the puzzle.

The moon governs our tides and seasons so perhaps the easiest way of verifying the data is to look at geological records showing the tides. In ancient times many calendars were lunar based and evidence of Paleolithic knowledge of lunar phases dates back to around 23,000BC as is evidenced by the Perigordian bas-relief known as the "Goddess of Laussel", where the crescent moon is depicted as a horn. There are 13 clearly engraved vertical strokes thought to represent the number of moons in a lunar year. Early evidence of man's interest in the moon is surprisingly scarce which is surprising given that it should have played such a big part in their every day life, after all the moon would be looking over them every night.

Isaac Asimov once commented that: "There is no astronomical reason why the moon and the sun should fit so well. It is the sheerest of coincidences, and only the Earth among all the planets is blessed in this fashion." This "coincidence" means that the moon is just the right size and distance, to completely block the sun during an eclipse. Eclipses are infrequent events but are often linked to quite serious earthquakes. Was the moon placed in a very specific orbit by a higher intelligence from another world who wanted to either monitor us as a species or exert an element of control over our planet?

All we can say for sure is that despite our supposed advanced technology, NASA seems to be able to offer very few answers to our questions about the moon. The veil of secrecy that surrounds the truth means that the facts are often suppressed because it is not deemed 'in the public's interest' for them to be made known. Sooner or later though, it is inevitable that the moon will reveal its secrets and a whole new chapter in our understanding of the universe might well be opened when that happen

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Posted: 19 October 2007 at 10:18pm | IP Logged

Originally posted by Pensacola.S_02

Alien Bases: The Mystery of the MoonUFOs & Aliens

 Sooner or later though, it is inevitable that the moon will reveal its secrets and a whole new chapter in our understanding of the universe might well be opened when that happen

 I always wondered about the people who fast on Poonam(full moon) and Amavas days.Confused I think every culture or tribe have moon worshipers.

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Posted: 20 October 2007 at 5:49am | IP Logged
Originally posted by lighthouse

Originally posted by Pensacola.S_02

Alien Bases: The Mystery of the MoonUFOs & Aliens

 Sooner or later though, it is inevitable that the moon will reveal its secrets and a whole new chapter in our understanding of the universe might well be opened when that happen

 I always wondered about the people who fast on Poonam(full moon) and Amavas days.Confused I think every culture or tribe have moon worshipers.

Definelty...Moon has some impact on humans....that's the reason..why we have somany romantic moonlight but not in SunlightLOL..btw is Moon...male or femaleTongue
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Posted: 20 October 2007 at 11:35am | IP Logged
After reading this article and also about Neil Armstrong..... I donot know! I thought when Neil Armstrong first stepped on the moon in 1969 they had said there was no traces of life.

I donot know about moon but I think we have to believe that Earth is not the only planet that has life form.

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Posted: 20 October 2007 at 11:55am | IP Logged
Aliens and bases.. were they in the play-offs?

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Posted: 24 October 2007 at 10:06pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by mythili_Kiran

Originally posted by lighthouse

Originally posted by Pensacola.S_02

Alien Bases: The Mystery of the MoonUFOs & Aliens

 Sooner or later though, it is inevitable that the moon will reveal its secrets and a whole new chapter in our understanding of the universe might well be opened when that happen

 I always wondered about the people who fast on Poonam(full moon) and Amavas days.Confused I think every culture or tribe have moon worshipers.

Definelty...Moon has some impact on humans....that's the reason..why we have somany romantic moonlight but not in SunlightLOL..btw is Moon...male or femaleTongue

Endrogenous! In india itself mythologically it is male as are in some MILs but some of them also refer to it as female!
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Posted: 24 October 2007 at 11:49pm | IP Logged
Not only on Moon they can be on another palent also which is beyond us.
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Posted: 24 October 2007 at 11:57pm | IP Logged

Alien Bases!!!!???Embarrassed

Ya Now i got doubt why some poet always compare women with moon...EmbarrassedTongue

Meri Saamne Wali Khidki Mein Ek Chaand Ka Tukda Rehta Hai

Chand sa roshan chehara.....

hi jaise chaand ka Baadalon se ho gaya Ghoonghat mein chehra aap ka

Chand jaise mukde pe bindiya sitare...

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