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Posted: 24 August 2007 at 1:01am | IP Logged
Originally posted by rockstallion

Originally posted by mythili_Kiran

Originally posted by lighthouse

Originally posted by mythili_Kiran

This reminds me of the immense changes in the financial status of the serial people..all of a sudden they shift into a poor house from mansion...seems these people don't know basics of savings....they can atleast  take help from financial experts knowLOL!!!! BTW these people can sign any documents without seeing them and they become poor all of a suddenSmile

 Myth you are funny .. I love the way someone offers a blank check to a person in K-serials and the recipient gets excited thinking they can write whatever number they wish to have on the check..LOL Confused  I wonder if anyone offered Kekta a  blank check ....Wink

One more thing is the way..forcibilly some one made to sign on the documents which will transfer their property to the villan..is'nt there a mechanism in which again we can go and claim in court..that we signed that only when one threatened..to do soConfused..very silly Smile

LOL very true ROFL

and i remembered one all time best scenes....

its like the vamp pays the doctor to make fake reports of pregnancy, and the heroine always knows this ,,,, and there is no other clinic existing LOL LOL

Very true..SmileEven in a big metroConfused no other clinicsLOL...but the biggest thing ..how does the heroine manage to know all the things...LOL...I think this plot you mentioned is some thing similar to saloni ka safar and darshakon ko suffer serial..which is a non kekta soapTongue..funniest thing is the hero in most of the serials is a show pieceROFL,may be its true in real life too....Tiger in Streets but Cat in the home...and the ring masters...the circus cat..the alley cats..willbe the Anna(female )Tongue



Edited by mythili_Kiran - 24 August 2007 at 1:02am
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Posted: 24 August 2007 at 1:33am | IP Logged
Originally posted by mythili_Kiran

Originally posted by rockstallion

Originally posted by mythili_Kiran

Originally posted by lighthouse

Originally posted by mythili_Kiran

This reminds me of the immense changes in the financial status of the serial people..all of a sudden they shift into a poor house from mansion...seems these people don't know basics of savings....they can atleast  take help from financial experts knowLOL!!!! BTW these people can sign any documents without seeing them and they become poor all of a suddenSmile

 Myth you are funny .. I love the way someone offers a blank check to a person in K-serials and the recipient gets excited thinking they can write whatever number they wish to have on the check..LOL Confused  I wonder if anyone offered Kekta a  blank check ....Wink

One more thing is the way..forcibilly some one made to sign on the documents which will transfer their property to the villan..is'nt there a mechanism in which again we can go and claim in court..that we signed that only when one threatened..to do soConfused..very silly Smile

LOL very true ROFL

and i remembered one all time best scenes....

its like the vamp pays the doctor to make fake reports of pregnancy, and the heroine always knows this ,,,, and there is no other clinic existing LOL LOL

Very true..SmileEven in a big metroConfused no other clinicsLOL...but the biggest thing ..how does the heroine manage to know all the things...LOL...I think this plot you mentioned is some thing similar to saloni ka safar and darshakon ko suffer serial..which is a non kekta soapTongue..funniest thing is the hero in most of the serials is a show pieceROFL,may be its true in real life too....Tiger in Streets but Cat in the home...and the ring masters...the circus cat..the alley cats..willbe the Anna(female )Tongue

LOL LOL LOL cant stop ...

yah all darshak ko suffer serials, i mentioned plot from karam apna apna, but ekta showed this plot in all the serials....Big smile because am one victim LOL LOL LOL

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Posted: 24 August 2007 at 1:34am | IP Logged

Originally posted by chatbuster


i can believe it. shows gals to be smarter than the guys. shows them they can get a step on their guys Smile

all lies of course Tongue

Ayyo!Wish I supported the articleTongue! Uff! I regret not supporting the article mentioned here in the postSmileLOL!!!

Information about the Kekta's Brainless eye candy...well educated heroes and the swadeshi,well educated heroines...interestingly in a very filmy manner..the heroines....tackle the very tough business problems...which a well educated phoren returned hero cannot solve....even they can make the joint ventures..easily....

Ekta's Brainless eye candy heroes vs Kekta Heroines at a glance

Jai Walia  and Bani of Kasam se serial

Mihir Virani and Tulsi from Kyun ki saas bhi kabhi bahu thi:

Suujal and Kashish of Kahin tho hoga:

(this is not our thakur saabTongue)

In all the above three serials.. the heroes are brainless and these heroines recused the heroes in their business problemsLOL!!! But in real.....is it possible ????? In some serials....the well educated house wife turned heroine can solve the business problems in a single minute...which a good business school guy..good business man ..hero cannot solve..wish all this were trueLOL



Edited by mythili_Kiran - 24 August 2007 at 1:37am
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A New Indian Woman?
by Kusum Choppra

Have you ever heard of a woman called Sitaram ? Or Radhakrishna or Radheshyam? Why?

The names sound feminine enough. Then why does one only hear of men carrying those double-barreled names? Legend has it that these double-barreled names are the outcome of a "vardaan" from the Gods to two women, Sita and Radha: that their names would always precede the man's. This was because their steadfast loyalty and pure love had raised them head and shoulders above their communities, even their men, Ram and Krishna, respectively.

For Krishna had dallied with dozens and married two, but Radha, a married woman defied home, family and society, to abide by her steadfast love for her Lord.

Sita too proved her mettle, in banwas, in imprisonment, in the agnipariksha and ever after, to place herself a cut above the Maryada Purushottam, against whose later days and apparent lust for power, question marks still stand.

Yet it was the men who were named Radhakrishna, Radheshyam, Sitaram or Shivaramakrishna.

The issue here is the usurpation, by the male of the species, of the double-barreled name, which was the vardan of the Gods for the females of the species.
In earlier times, and often in our times too, men were conscious of the threat of being out shone by their women. Hence the girls are never christened Sitaram, Radheshyam or Radhekrishna; only plain Sita or Rama, Radha or Krishna. It is the boys who get the double appellation.

The oldest cultures saw the woman as the Life giver, the Nurturer. Hence the personification of earth, nature and the rivers etc. as female deities and the matrilineal communities. At some juncture, when a crisis erupted when the woman was going through her reproductive cycle, the Man used his brute physical force to meet the crisis and to take over.

What proof is there that the Cave Woman did not accompany the Cave Man on his hunting expeditions? Or that Cave Man actually slung Cave Woman over his shoulder to cut short the wooing process? Except the buffoonery of some Western writers? Where brute force takes the day. In the Orient, female deities held sway longer - in fact, almost until the precursors of the Occident arrived, after the Occident had outgrown its own female deities with the advent of Christianity.

The precursor of the ghunghat was the purdah of Islam, while ancient India celebrated its women in the carvings of Mohenjadaro and Khajuraho. Now Hindutva choses to opt for aping Christianity and Islam in imposing uniformity in organized religion, where rather than reap souls, religious leaders prefer reap real estate riches from their devotees.

In recent times a new Indian woman has emerged.

There are two ways of looking at it. The New Indian woman can be termed a very nebulous creature populating the hyper active mind of writers only; for there remain to this day millions upon millions of women who might dress like the new Indian woman but mentally and physically remain steeped in the post partition era and mentalities.

Or she can be a many splendored creature, super woman, ranging from the 'done that, seen that, type of person' to a well-rounded personality who combines profession with personal admirably. It all depends on the spectrum of society you interact with.

The New Indian Woman is in fact a many splendored creature, more educated and aware than her predecessor, although very large segments of the New Indian Woman seems to be losing out on the massive store we have as heritage. This is because parents, more especially mothers, push daughters towards careers so vigorously that earlier 'feminine' arts such as embroidery, knitting, cooking, more temperate housekeeping, even child and health care is left by the wayside as women climb rapidly up the career ladder. Housekeeping becomes cursory or relegated to a housekeeper who is also a professional, a career woman perhaps lower down the ladder than the corporate executive whose house she looks after. But then, the housekeeper too is a new Indian woman.

So it is, that you win some, you lose some for the New Indian Woman who scales new heights, crashing through all the glass ceilings. More than the urban woman whose heights were scaled even before Partition and regularly thereafter, in today's India, it is the rural woman who is more deserving of the New Indian Woman categorization.

Statistics confirm that the number of families headed by women is rising dramatically, especially in the rural areas. And thousands of women are making their mark in panchayats and other local self-government bodies and organizations across the country working at the grass roots levels, with startling results.

Another aspect is the New Indian woman depicted in media, especially electronic media and films…generally a more feather headed person than may be actually the case. In the current crop of serials, the New Indian Woman comes across very sorry. Tulsi and Parvati are hardly new Indian women, for all their glamorous homes, they are as hectoring as any old time Nanad or Sasuma, and as regressive.

But for all the hectoring and the ruling that the women do, they will still do the perfunctory know-towing to the male and forgive them all their sins, although each and every single digression of the woman becomes an earth shattering event for the entire joint family.

Rare is the woman in any of those popular soaps ever does anything except dress to kill; even a supposedly professional like Prerna is never seen working as one, although she does dare to take on issues as rapid-fire marriages and divorces and recently, rape and marital differences. A symbol like Jassi, despite her hi-fi career and transformation remains a creature of her father, and then family, rather than her own.

Unfortunately producers are still rather shy of translating literary works into films, serials or plays. Heroine oriented, author backed roles are a rarity. I cannot recall a recent example, beyond Parineeta. Before the K serials of the Ekta Kapoor's society women genre inundated TV, there was a very interesting series that translated short stories into single episode short TV plays. Some of them brought out the strengths of women much more powerfully than any of the big names in the K soaps. But if I recall correctly, again most were nostalgic rather than contemporary.

Feminism may be big headlines and page three chatter; but hard-core feminism where women think like women, not like men, is still struggling for a voice.

Novels would undoubtedly make an impact, if they managed to get read in the first place. Perhaps in the smaller towns and campuses, where reading has not yet gone out of fashion novels are devoured with some appetite.

In elite circles, it is no longer fashionable to read. And if anyone does read, it is totally incomprehensible for everyone why anyone should read an Indian author, except may be a Shobha De or Jhumpa Lahiri ?

Big-ticket authors find a wide readership. Those who come via an NRI tag enjoy an edge, no doubt. But the impact is limited to much the same elite circles that produce that limited edition of the New Indian woman who populates the soap operas on TV.

Who or what constructs this media image, or what are some of the factors that contribute to this construction?

Unfortunately the construction of the New Indian Woman, who is publicly projected, has been left more in the hands of persons who are out of touch with the reality of most of India. Writers of plays and serials and films today, even the more popular pulp fiction which finds publishers easily, are by and large persons from upper middles or plain wealthy homes, whose exposure to the Other India outside their world of internet cafes, international rock shows, malls, multiplexes and foreign holidays is very very limited. That is why perhaps that their characters act very out-of-character as women from homes other than those that are super rich.

Hence even so-called middle class heroines wear designer outfits and make up and are very rapidly propelled into the hundreds of crores category. Their concerns are rarely down to earth at all. Has anyone seen any really good middle middle class serial in the mould of Humlog or film like Chitchor or Gharonda in recent times? Has anyone seen a serial heroine dressed like the ordinary woman on the street in any of our non-metropolis or if not actually working professionally or at least keeping house like any normal "real life" woman?

Even writers, it is rather depressing to note, quickly hark back to early, post independence eras for a middle class touch, while most recent writing is devoted to multiplex ma'ams and their counterparts from smaller towns.

Chhote ghar ke log or chhote gaon ke log are a subject of derision, rather than an exploration of their emotions, problems, issues. Glamour, it is felt, sells and everyone goes all out for that glamour, and literature be damned. Kal kisne dekha? Is the attitude. For the big city slick writer, the new woman is a combination of the people he knows, is familiar with, therefore easier to depict in words or pictures.

It is ironic that modern Indian English writers often write in the nostalgic mode. Should it be interpreted that modern writers do not find too much worth writing about the modern miss. Or that the modern miss is already nostalgic about the past when she was not a cutting edge, gizmo driven DINK?

Apart from the nostalgia segment, we have an imitation of the west, whether it is post-Harold Robbins sex driven novels or the Harry Potter imitations. Where is the New Indian woman in these?

She scores, if at all, in the short story genre and in the regional languages. India is a vast country with countless talents waiting to tell their tales. Whenever they get the chance, they present a smorgasbord of the Indian woman's experience in all her harrowing variety. Humor is usually in short supply. Every other emotion aplenty.

Writing in English does give the writer a snob value when interacting with readers of regional literature. Inversely, regional writers do often display an inverse snobbery when meeting writers in English…we're in touch with the real India, tum to angrez ki juthan ho; sort of unspoken vibes are common.

In some ways, one may be tempted to accept the New Indian Woman is a political construction, viewed from the point of view as politics being relationships of power at all levels of society, and not just as government or party politics.
Writers sculpt this female political construction with an agenda dictated in very many cases, through suitable veils, by the presiding deities in India today, the political parties and the Sangh Parivar. Those who are aware of the nuances can recognize the guiding hand quite easily.

The day has yet to come when Woman Power will be truly womanpower and not a creature of its author. There are very few women who think like a woman and move forward. All too frequently, they succumb to that admonish " think like a man". Remember that famous quip about Indira Gandhi being the only Man in her cabinet. If women continue down that path already beaten by men, how will they ever bring the world back from the brinks that Men have brought it to?         &nb sp;

http://www.boloji.com/women/087.htm

 

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Posted: 24 August 2007 at 2:07am | IP Logged
Originally posted by mythili_Kiran

A New Indian Woman?
by Kusum Choppra

Hence even so-called middle class heroines wear designer outfits and make up and are very rapidly propelled into the hundreds of crores category. Their concerns are rarely down to earth at all. Has anyone seen any really good middle middle class serial in the mould of Humlog or film like Chitchor or Gharonda in recent times? Has anyone seen a serial heroine dressed like the ordinary woman on the street in any of our non-metropolis or if not actually working professionally or at least keeping house like any normal "real life" woman?

 

An EYE -OPENER article for sure Clap 

I went trough the entire article, the above paragraph there,  applies 100% when we are discussing K serials....

that is correct, we haedly find any real life characters in ektas serials......like no housewife is found doing daily chores...Ouch

where as , Baa bahoo and baby, of hats off productions does show women as real....Big smile They cook clean eat manage the home unlike ekta characters, scheaming against each other LOL meri chall....mera plan....etc etc...

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Posted: 24 August 2007 at 2:13am | IP Logged
[QUOTE=mythili_Kiran]A New Indian Woman?
by Kusum Choppra

thanks myth Big smile

the article brings pride..



Edited by rockstallion - 24 August 2007 at 2:17am
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Posted: 24 August 2007 at 9:23am | IP Logged
Originally posted by tisha_g

Originally posted by rockstallion

Originally posted by mythili_Kiran

A New Indian Woman?
by Kusum Choppra

Hence even so-called middle class heroines wear designer outfits and make up and are very rapidly propelled into the hundreds of crores category. Their concerns are rarely down to earth at all. Has anyone seen any really good middle middle class serial in the mould of Humlog or film like Chitchor or Gharonda in recent times? Has anyone seen a serial heroine dressed like the ordinary woman on the street in any of our non-metropolis or if not actually working professionally or at least keeping house like any normal "real life" woman?

 

An EYE -OPENER article for sure Clap 

I went trough the entire article, the above paragraph there,  applies 100% when we are discussing K serials....

that is correct, we haedly find any real life characters in ektas serials......like no housewife is found doing daily chores...Ouch

where as , Baa bahoo and baby, of hats off productions does show women as real....Big smile They cook clean eat manage the home unlike ekta characters, scheaming against each other LOL meri chall....mera plan....etc etc...

RS,

Here's something for you to sum it all up

The Thinks that Kekta Thinks

(Based on Dr.Seuss' The Thinks You Can Think)

Kekta can think up some good stories, that's what she can do.
Then she puts in her twists and turns, and she turns them into strange weirdoes.
She can think up her titles to start with the letter K
That letter will bring her success that's what Sunita Menon has to say.

Oh the plots that she thinks up with 5 marriages and 10 divorces.
If that does not work, then her twists take the soap on a different course.
To save money, the same artist in several serials does she employ!
To top it off she kills the characters if they turn into naughty boys.

She draws up long contracts so that her actors don't run away.
After all, who can tolerate her idiosyncrasies night and day!
She thinks about how her soaps should cater to middle class.
Is ghisi piti morality par akhir kise hoga vishwas?

She thinks of plots, which involve stupid kitchen politics
Of who can cook the better biryani? Or who has a better sense of ethics?
She thinks of her casts as rich middle-aged house wives.
Who don't have a brain to do something meaningful with their lives.

The women folk in her soaps are laden with expensive jewelry.
They also wear designer saris in their kitchen cooking chicken curry.
And when they are finished cooking their husband's favorite baingan bharta
They poison their husband's minds when he is back home changing into his kurta.

When she wanted Balaji to go beyond the viewers of Viranis and Agarwals
She thinked up love stories for young folks like that of Kashish and Sujal Garewal.
These soaps have different twist, which involves intense love and jealousies
Which involves rapes, betrayals and murders-Oh why can't Kekta leave her legacy?

Now she has thought up some new thinks that will cater to different audience
But please call them Candy Floss and Crimson Skies-me tired of this K nonsense.
Her first soap called "Hum Paanch" did not have to start with the letter K
Maybe that's why it was a hit-Kekta should think about it some day.

PS:Qwerts, chalo likh diya sher!LOL

Myth: Who wrote this ode?

Mythili: May be Tisha

Myth: So...you say Tisha wrote this for Tania

Mythili: No, QWERTY googled the concept for Tania !

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Here is something I had cooked up with my friend a while back, thought you all might enjoy...

50 Things to Learn from Hindi Serials


1. One man can kick the butts of 6 gangsters. Especially when they all stand in a circle and attack the guy one by one. Then when each of them get their butts owned, they wise up and attack the guy at the same time. Then the guy will get pulverized and bleed out onto the dusty concrete floor of the empty warehouse they've found to fight in. There will be a fire in a trashcan somewhere. And the girl will have watched this the entire time, screaming in horror. Instead of calling 911, she'll just watch and cry. But it's okay. Because the next day the guy will be fine with a few random bandages and a few face scars. But never a black eye.

2. You'll get pregnant the first time you *ahem* sleep together.

3. You'll get pregnant if he kisses you on the forehead.

4. Heck- you'll get pregnant if you hold hands.

5. An unmarried girl will get preganant even thinking about boys!

6. Guys always look like they're 6 feet tall, even if they're only 5'10. Thank you camera angles.

7. Girls will always storm off because they're mad and the guy will stoically grab them by the arm and swing them back- and by magic, not dislocate their shoulders.

8. There is always a time where two (or more even) people are looking for each other in a small area of the same mall and they keep roaming around in circles and pass each other about six times, but miraculously never see each other.

9. If you're saving someone from being hit from a car, you'll push them out of the way and wait for the car to hit you instead. It could not be truer; they're like a deer in headlights.

10. Everyone always goes to the same hospital no matter where they are.

11. People meet at restaurants but never order anything. If food is already present, it is NEVER eaten and the bill is never paid, you just get up and leave.

12. Women sleep and wake up with a full set of makeup on.

13. If you have a best guy friend, he is in love with you. And secretly you are too.

14. Nobody ever dies a natural death. No body is ever recovered!

15. If a body is recovered it is burnt beyond recognition.

16. If a person is considered dead, they most definitely return, with not only their face changed, but also their height, weight, …EVERYTHING.

17. If you have one miscarriage, you can never conceive again.

18. If a couple can't have kids it is always because the woman can't conceive and never the man!

19. Adoption is never an option!

20. Surrogate mother's have to be married to the husband, and it is the wife, that insists on the marriage.

21. The surrogate mother is usually a close family member.

22. Surrogate mothers never leave after birth of baby, they eventually take over the house, the husband and the wife is kicked out of the house.

23. There is no code of ethics for doctors, lawyers and the police, they will lie for even a little amount of money.

24. DNA reports are always switched and never correct

25. The villain or vamp has super hearing, and can hear other's conversations, through walls, across a hall full of ppl at a busy party, from a different table in a restaurant, heck they can even listen to other ppl when the other person is not even talking but thinking!

26. Whenever someone is being chased by gangsters, they will run from a busy street into a place that is completely abandoned and empty.

27. Women are always dressed like they are going to a party, but when it is time for them to leave the house they are always told to get ready! "jao tyaar ho jao"

28. ALL the men at some point have an affair.

29. Everytime something big is reaveled, the camera must flash on each and every characters face, atleast 3 times...heck the camera will flash on faces even when someone just enters a room.

30. If you are poor, you are an angel

31. If you are rich, you are a brat

32. Every family has a female character who wants to ruin the family and take over everything.

33. These female characters also have their own special evil background music for everytime they make an entry or say something.

34. When something totally unexpected happens, like someone dies or actually confess their love it is always a dream!

35. And if it not a dream when the confess their love but acutal reality, the couple are in a bad situation, like the girl is about to get married.

36. Just as someone is about to get caught red handed, the person about to catch them moves slower and slower, giving them enough time to flee.

37. At this time, the background music also gets louder and louder, causing the viewers to actually put the TV on mute, cuz the music just gets annoying.

38. When it comes to some important phone call or some important documents, it always the villian who answers or get the documents.

39. No matter how many times a person has been cheated, they never learn and always sign the papers without reading them first. Even when warned by the villian themselves.

40. All cars break down at night time, on a lonely street.

41. If the hero or heroine get some strong proof again the villian are are about to expose them, they first go and tell the villian about it, giving them a chance to run or destroy the proof.

42. The villian will keep talking and talking and blaming the hero or heroine and everyone will be quiet and listen.

43. The hero or heroine will keep repeating "meri baat suno" wasting their time instead of actually saying what they have to.

44. When they do finally come down to saying what they have to, no one will be listening.

45. You always fall in love with someone you shouldn't

46. But here is no point in falling in love cuz you end marrying some one else

47. When you finally fall in love with your husband, your first love comes back into your life...to create problems of course.

48. Trust NO ONE!...even your own sister is after your husband!

49. Love NO ONE!...even your own husband is having an affair with your sister!

50. Hate EVERYONE! cuz they all hate you (if they don't now, they will at some point)!


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