Socialized Health Care..? Good or Bad..? - Page 3

Posted: 16 years ago
Originally posted by raunaq




regarding your friends bill, thats shocking, yaar he could have used some bandage from pharmacy. that bill might give anyone a shock for a finger cut unless he used axe to cut it. [/quote]

Lol @ axe πŸ˜†

Actually, he cut a little chunk of his finger and hence, we had to go the hospital. Minor cut hota to obviously we would have had rushed to CVS. But still though, $500 is just 😲

[quote=raunaq] also your friend is lucky to have known the problem earlier, it sad some people just beat around the bush instead of letting you know the exact problem. the girl is lucky to have caught the problem earlier and treated for it. its quite sad.

It is indeed sad. The guy (my friend) was working part-time for summer and because of his mom's problem, he got an unexpected vacation in India, so he is all excited πŸ˜†

Posted: 16 years ago
Originally posted by tisha_g


And what happens if you don't have money? You get shooed away from one hospital to another and the person dies in the mean time. Have heard of such an incident that happened to a friend. How can you call it socialized then? If  quality medical care should be available it should be too everyone. Unless then we cannot call it a socialized healthcare.



what happened in municipal / govt hospital? πŸ˜• 
i wasn't attempting to glorify indian system, but in comparison and contrast, said to prefer it. 
i have seen truck load of ppl in wards coming in every minute at KEM hospital and getting medical attention!
even over here, those w/o medical insurance could be shooed away! isn't it?  Am I missing something?
Posted: 16 years ago
Originally posted by mermaid_QT



what happened in municipal / govt hospital? πŸ˜• i wasn't attempting to glorify indian system, but in comparison and contrast, said to prefer it. i have seen truck load of ppl in wards coming in every minute at KEM hospital and getting medical attention! even over here, those w/o medical insurance could be shooed away! isn't it? Am I missing something?


they do, but dont they get billed later, in case of emergencies dont they get the treatment and billed later, or may be iam missing the point.in case of no insurance, they have to pay whatever they can upfront later. thats why i said before that money talks πŸ˜• have heard loads of weird cases and people beefing about long wait hours. Edited by raunaq - 16 years ago
Posted: 16 years ago
@ RUTU , about outsourcing πŸ˜† πŸ˜†
Yeah, it is like a grand vacation.. they have these beach packages added for the recovery! Smart business!! πŸ‘

Over here, there has not been ONE incidence, when the doctor gave me more knowledge about my condition, than I already had!
(no offense meant at anyone.. sorry if it appears that way! about the co pay, I really felt as if i rolled the 20 dollar bill into a beedee and smokedπŸ˜‰) - more harm, no good. πŸ˜†
ok, joke apart- the entire APPOINTMENT system is so messed up. What are they so busy doing? Golfing? My colleague whose father died of stomach cancer, sister has ovarian cancer complained of something that could suggest serious condition of reproductive system. She was offered an appointment after 6 months πŸ˜› ..
Urgent care / emergency is not what she needed, but 6 months could be too long a time to wait. Where is the sense here?? The one time I went to urgent care for ear infection, I sat for 4 hours till I fainted.
Anytime I see KP ad, my blood boils...

although all this may seem unrelated, never undermine how one thing leads to another.. and how a system is built. 😳

Edited by mermaid_QT - 16 years ago
Posted: 16 years ago

Since I went to the hospital's emergency room just a week ago, I saw a notice board there which said that the rule is that in case if an emergency, a patient has to be given immediate attention irrespective of the insurance status. So, I am thinking if it is unavoidable, they are bound by law to give treatment to the patient. It's just that they kill them with hefty bills later πŸ˜†

In India, as QT said, they don't usually shoo away people in gov't hospital. Or servant's wife was burnt really badly and she was given timely treatment without questions. He was given concessions later, and he ended up paying a minimal amount.

 

Edited by rutumodi915 - 16 years ago
Posted: 16 years ago
Originally posted by rutumodi915


Since I went to the hospital's emergency room just a week ago, I saw a notice board there which said that the rule is that in case if an emergency, a patient has to be given immediate attention irrespective of the insurance status. So, I am thinking if it is unavoidable, they are bound by law to give treatment to the patient. It's just that they kill them with hefty bills later πŸ˜†

In India, as QT said, they don't usually shoo away people in gov't hospital. Or servant's wife was burnt really badly and she was given timely treatment without questions. He was given concessions later, and he ended up paying a minimal amount.

 

..Yes.. I agree, first they they treat youu and then they kill you with billls..
Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by mermaid_QT



Urgent care / emergency is not what she needed, but 6 months could be too long a time to wait. Where is the sense here?? The one time I went to urgent care for ear infection, I sat for 4 hours till I fainted.
Anytime I see KP ad, my blood boils...

if you think thats bad think about getting refered to a specialist by your family dr. you'll have to wait in-line to get an apt with the specialist. then they go through the whole process of paperwork to keep you as a regular. i swear before patient throwing around is done...the patient wants to die of frustration and making apts after another.😑

this is exactly why when you have money you can buy an apt according to your needs even if it means you are taking the time of someone who probably needed the slot more than you.

Dont know how good HC is good for any one but the govt and dr getting paid. its a way of ripping the tax payers imo...how will one find the  best possible service available for the best priceπŸ˜‰

Edited by wite_rainbow - 16 years ago
Posted: 16 years ago

Originally posted by mermaid_QT



ok, joke apart- the entire APPOINTMENT system is so messed up. What are they so busy doing? Golfing? My colleague whose father died of stomach cancer, sister has ovarian cancer complained of something that could suggest serious condition of reproductive system. She was offered an appointment after 6 months πŸ˜› ..

Okay, I used to work at a pediatrician's office and used to do this appointment business. Since he was a child specialist, he usually couldn't play games about No-Appointments. But we had whining parents coming all the time about how the specialist that we referred them to, are not ready to give an early appointment. This is a child we are talking about here, so of course, parents were all frustrated. There was not much mu doctor could do about it.

I would ask him what the deal is... he just said, "Nautanki" πŸ˜† πŸ˜†. This doctor was desi. When he said this, I was just 🀣 πŸ˜•

Posted: 16 years ago
great points everyone.. - meena, MOE, RUTU- some funny, some serious..

Haha.. Tisha.. now we can't expect for the best of healthcare for cheap 😊 .. IMHO< that is being too greedy / taking the demands too far. My dad worked waayyy too hard for his place on marine drive. now my kaamwali can't be eyeing for the same, although she clearly deserves a shelter for all the work she does and service she provides.
Wheteher we like it or not, even GOD made us different, some look better, some sing better, some are smarter, some are better human beings.. similarly, we earn differently and hence afford different things. Healthcare, being a PAID SERVICE, not a nobel one, I am not sad about municipal service being of less quality.

Life is such..   Edited by mermaid_QT - 16 years ago
Posted: 16 years ago
Originally posted by mermaid_QT



great points everyone.. - meena, MOE, RUTU- some funny, some serious..

Haha.. Tisha.. now we can't expect for the best of healthcare for cheap 😊 .. IMHO< that is being too greedy / taking the demands too far. My dad worked waayyy too hard for his place on marine drive. now my kaamwali can't be eyeing for the same, although she clearly deserves a shelter for all the work she does and service she provides. Wheteher we like it or not, even GOD made us different, some look better, some sing better, some are smarter, some are better human beings.. similarly, we earn differently and hence afford different things. Healthcare, being a PAID SERVICE, not a nobel one, I am not sad about municipal service being of less quality.

Life is such..   


you got a good point here πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘

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