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raj5000
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Thanks All for responses. Might come back to respond to views here, but would like to address this one first. 
This thought came up after visiting my physician, who is major time overwieght and giving me lecture on being 2 pounds over.
Examples :
1. Investment suggestions by a person who himself if failure in investing.
2. Suggestions by less educated persons to people, to study more.
3. Relationship experts preaching on how to ensure a good relationship, while thier own personal life is in a mess.
Debate : Professionals preaching / lecturing pupils even if they lack to follow thier own principles, IMMORAL?
Immoral!!!!????? kyon bhai... bolne main kya harz hai... It can be incorrect not immoral.....
Kyon nahi bhai? No problems bolney mey but depends on who is boleing, did mention talking about professionals here not any or everybody - preaching or advising. Apart from professionals other advising is khacha libmu (in other words subjected to take it or take it, who cares)...
If you say it is incorrect, that is not a righteous action by pro. Not righteous is synonomous to being immoral. Chalo narrowing it more, cop enforces DUI. Off duty indulges in DUI, immoral? or per you incorrect?
raj5000
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This thought came up after visiting my physician, who is major time overwieght and giving me lecture on being 2 pounds over.
Examples :
1. Investment suggestions by a person who himself if failure in investing. Nothing Immoral here. Worlds richest people are not Noble prize winners in economy. and more often then not your financial adviser has less money then you do..
2. Suggestions by less educated persons to people, to study more. Well if one is not good at anything else then a degree is a hope for better future but not gauranty.
3. Relationship experts preaching on how to ensure a good relationship, while thier own personal life is in a mess. I believe the author of "Men are form Mars and Women are from Venus" has been married few times.. He could be immoral..
Debate : Professionals preaching / lecturing pupils even if they lack to follow thier own principles, IMMORAL?
To do something for oneself requires will power but to suggest the same thing or mentor someone requires willingness to help IMHO.. So it is not incorrect or immoral..
@ Bold red - not could, but it is and thats what am talking about.
When one cannot control his/her own will power what take he/she has got to suggest / mentor something that might involve will power. BTW - want to focus on professionals here, who continue following thier short comings and yet want to advise someone else on corrective actions.
raj5000
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Makes no sense in todays world, and do wht my dad does, in one ear and out the other. I listened, doesnt mean i did what they told me too @bold
Follow OR not to follow is upto who is getting advise. Am trying to say professionals giving advise, and not following it. I mean its fine if there is logical reason for it but otherwise 
. Doctors/Dentists/Cops/Professors/BaBa's naming are looked upon setting up examples not just earn.
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This thought came up after visiting my physician, who is major time overwieght and giving me lecture on being 2 pounds over.
3. Relationship experts preaching on how to ensure a good relationship, while thier own personal life is in a mess. I believe the author of "Men are form Mars and Women are from Venus" has been married few times.. He could be immoral..
Debate : Professionals preaching / lecturing pupils even if they lack to follow thier own principles, IMMORAL?
To do something for oneself requires will power but to suggest the same thing or mentor someone requires willingness to help IMHO.. So it is not incorrect or immoral..
@ Bold red - not could, but it is and thats what am talking about.
When one cannot control his/her own will power what take he/she has got to suggest / mentor something that might involve will power. BTW - want to focus on professionals here, who continue following thier short comings and yet want to advise someone else on corrective actions.
It is not and I refuse to accept . Don't go to that person if you don't have faith! They are not immoral. If they don't have the right education, then that would be illegal and immoral. What happens in their homes is their business. If they give wrong advise to people due to any BITTERNESS they may harbour, then it is immoral. Quacks with happy families who don't give correct advise are immoral , not these people.
qwertyesque
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this bears on the conscience.... the other word takes you to your sinful world..... perpetrated by your God and his nemesis the devil....
raj5000
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This thought came up after visiting my physician, who is major time overwieght and giving me lecture on being 2 pounds over.
3. Relationship experts preaching on how to ensure a good relationship, while thier own personal life is in a mess. I believe the author of "Men are form Mars and Women are from Venus" has been married few times.. He could be immoral..
Debate : Professionals preaching / lecturing pupils even if they lack to follow thier own principles, IMMORAL?
To do something for oneself requires will power but to suggest the same thing or mentor someone requires willingness to help IMHO.. So it is not incorrect or immoral..
@ Bold red - not could, but it is and thats what am talking about.
When one cannot control his/her own will power what take he/she has got to suggest / mentor something that might involve will power. BTW - want to focus on professionals here, who continue following thier short comings and yet want to advise someone else on corrective actions.
It is not and I refuse to accept . Don't go to that person if you don't have faith! They are not immoral. If they don't have the right education, then that would be illegal and immoral. What happens in their homes is their business. If they give wrong advise to people due to any BITTERNESS they may harbour, then it is immoral. Quacks with happy families who don't give correct advise are immoral , not these people.
Faith doesn't signfies right or wrong. ( off topic - Dawood uncle also have batallion of folks having faith in him). No question of faith or no faith, if forced to seek advise, in name of insurance coverage or legal matters. Given a choice, then something to think about.
Not questioning education / right /wrong - assuming advise is right, but not followed by him or herself.
This comment is on relationship pros - " What happens in thier home is thier business" Am not advising or poking nose in thier business, let person do whatever in world he/she likes - but don't come tell people how things have to be done right, when cannot him/herself implement it. Other hand, how will they know in first place what is right or wrong advise? when self report card shows more red then black numbers.
Imagine someone advising that non violence is best remedy to win a war, going home and beating his pets / someone else, Not immoral?
Thoses quacks are equally immoral .
PS - Just spirit of dbt, truly no offense meant.
raj5000
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this bears on the conscience.... the other word takes you to your sinful world..... perpetrated by your God and his nemesis the devil.... Well such actions are incorrect alrigh! IMO such actions are bond to go against person's conscienceness, No? . ummm mm may be u are right, but reading wikipedia for 10 minutes, haven't changed my mind
lighthouse
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this bears on the conscience.... the other word takes you to your sinful world..... perpetrated by your God and his nemesis the devil.... Well such actions are incorrect alrigh! IMO such actions are bond to go against person's conscienceness, No? . ummm mm may be u are right, but reading wikipedia for 10 minutes, haven't changed my mind
Morality is defined by human actions which could be right or wrong or good or evil.... How can a right or good advice be immoral just because the advice giver cannot achieve what he/she preaches.? If you are paying him to give you advice then as a professional he/she is doing their job.
Have heard mohavra that a shoemaker's soles will most likely have unfixed holes in them.
Raj I think the word you want to use is moral hypocrisy...
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