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Posted: 25 June 2007 at 10:57pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by mermaid_QT

Originally posted by raj5000

TFR (Thanks for reponse) ...

why should one expect or enforce his/her advise when one himself coudn't make things the way he/she is preaching? ok one point no one was there to advise but still, is not justifiable.. its better to just give zero advise.

Relationship - other person impossible, fair point, but then while advising make such disaclaimers. Still whatever be the reason preaching shouldn't be based on disclaimers.

Doctor - Explain the exceptions to patinet rather then making big statements.

Investors - Well, I know few who believed in thier gut feeling and failed, but what they advise is different,

Learn from one's mistake,  valid point, make that clear, accept the mistake and then preach. Still if one doesn't succeed in some task or action for XYZ reasons has not right force his thoughts. There are shouldn't be any excuses for failures but acceptance that one lacked or lacks doing the right thing.


Raj, are you complaining about UNSOLICITATED advice ? 
Why would one go to the doctor / the shrink / financial advicer and not want their advice? LOL

No! I am saying why qualify for advise when not followed by adviser. Tongue

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What about Parents who ask their children to do things they couldnt?
Study more, work harder...

that is all good intention...cannot be called immoral... Tongue

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Posted: 25 June 2007 at 11:04pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Maya_M

Originally posted by raj5000

@bold similar to what QT said, my from diff angle now - yup right to advise on self mistakes..point is, as of today is he / she is still continuing not to follow thigns against what he/she preach, is definately immoral. For example -  watching more TV, took study hours from him/her. Preaches to children not to spend time on TV. Still he/she can make a difference doing something constuctive else then watching TV, unfortunately continues his/her devotion to TV and advises all to watch no or less TV is IMMORAL.

There is nothing immoral if a parent drinks and advises his son not to. Same way nothing wrong if a Prof. spends his time watching TV and preaches his pupil not to. A fat doctor can advise the patient to control diet and lose weight.

In this argument I don't have an answer to WHY? I just think it is not immoral. It is just a good advise for someone's betterment. Someone who went to these people for advise.

It looks like unwarranted preaching when someone with no relation out of blue starts advising you on what and what not to do.

Parents and kids different issues, yet not justifiable, but here am saying ideal person who is qualified to give advise on heathy living, tells pupils not to drink after 2 large shots is immoral.LOL Even parents change themselves for kids.. separate discussion.

"It looks like unwarranted preaching when someone with no relation out of blue starts advising you on what and what not to do. " - right no one qualified him/her to seek advise from, only saying is a pro in his/her field and preaches what he/she doesn't follow is Ouch.

 

 

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Posted: 25 June 2007 at 11:06pm | IP Logged

Originally posted by TallyHo

What about Parents who ask their children to do things they couldnt?
Study more, work harder...

that is all good intention...cannot be called immoral... Tongue

Why couldn't parents set in example in first place? Anyways am talking about pros .. parent / child lot of factors come in place.Smile

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Posted: 25 June 2007 at 11:08pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by raj5000

No! I am saying why qualify for advise when not followed by adviser. Tongue


if you don't listen, whose potentil loss is that raj?  doc will be fat and shrink may be divorced.. and they kind of don;t need you to listen to them anyway!LOL They got their money and are happy :)
can u guarantee a slim doctor can give a better health adv? and does a seemingly happily married relationship expert qualify better? what if she is clueless of her husband cheating on her? a hypoth situation Tongue..
their reputation and their success in proviing their service defines their credibility.  Judging them otherwise is immoral i say, not their advice..

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Posted: 25 June 2007 at 11:10pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by raj5000

Originally posted by TallyHo

What about Parents who ask their children to do things they couldnt?
Study more, work harder...

that is all good intention...cannot be called immoral... Tongue

Why couldn't parents set in example in first place? Anyways am talking about pros .. parent / child lot of factors come in place.Smile

 U mean like a dentist with bad teeth asking you to brush and floss  regularly?.. LOL..that aint immoral either!Tongue

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