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welcome to the forum and wow what a long post Clap Clap Clap , i will try to follow this thread Tongue

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Wacko OMG ji.........itnaa bada post kyu Jii lol....last para is enough to debate ji lol.....LOL

I think we debate about Abortions b4 also...My view Abortion is depend upon situation .... Embarrassed

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Welcome to the club, Simran.

Well tis really really tough to accept a child with abnormality. I have a friend who stays in my building and her child is brain damaged. She suffers from acute depression and still hopes that one day her child would be fully cured which we know tis not gonna happen (unless or until there is a miracle). Having exhausted all the medical possibilities she's now looking for supernatural means by taking the child to a Baba. You see how ppl can go crazy if they have deal to with such a situation. I know if she had a choice she would have taken the extreme step not for her own sake but for the sake of the Baby who's kinda stopped growing. So tis subjective.

However in some cases it sounds brutal too. The other day they were showing a programme on TV about triplets and quadruplets. They were saying if one did not wish to have more than 2 babies or if tis not safe then they could stop the heartbeat of the third one. The baby stops growing. This is really cruel. How can they stop a life from developing just on the basis of a notion that it can endanger other lives? Let nature decide that.

I am finding it difficult to say whether it is justified or not.

Thanks. TC.

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First up all let me tell you that I am against abortion but in certain situations may be there is a need to do that. As you have mentioned that there are certain defects not necessarily related to brain but there are so many congenital defects of which children are born. I agree that parents love their child very much and give the child the utmost care and love required, in most cases. Not all parents are similar mind you.. and that is a fact..

But for those parents who care and love their child with a certain congential defects, the world outside is absolutely cruel. Such children never realised their shortcomings when small and growing up but when the peers and people around start looking and taunt the child/teenager/adult, the child doesnt understand what hit him/her.. cos up till then there never was anything pointed to the child in that regard within the family and though there might be some things within the child which are not normal, for the child it is normal cos it never enter the child's thinking that whatever he carries is abnormal.(kinda hard to explain, hope you guys understood, what I am trying to say) Ouch 

As the child grows s/he is acutely made aware of his/her shortcoming by the outside world, the so called society.. it is not easy for the child.. a child may lose his/her self confidence and feel inferior to others. The child may be intelligent but because of various remarks from the people, the child may not progress the way s/he should have in normal circumstances.

For the fortunate children with congential defects who have family support then also it is very hard because such children doesnt disclose each and every taunt to their family (even when family is caring and lovingly) and keep it inside them and suffer.... Life is not easy for such children.. even after becoming adult cos there is a baggage which that child carries for life.. Only few children with such conditions come out a winner.. but not all are fortunate in that way..

In such cases, may be abortion is justified.. I am saying this but I am still not sure.. kinda confused a lot about it.. but have seen the circumstances the parents and children with congential defects go through out their lifetime so kind of siding with a yes.. but still confused.. Confused cos my heart say no and head says yes.. Ouch

Hope you dont mind me asking one question in this thread of yours simran... My question is..

Should a child with congential defects which doesnt affect his/her thinking power should be made aware of his/her congential defects from childhood say 5 years or there after by parents???

OR

parents should never ever mentioned to the child regarding the same and just love the child??? but sooner or later the world will? 

Please answer friends.. thanks.. Smile

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welcome back!

i think abortion cant really be justified! its an own personal decision. God forbid, but when u go through the phase of pregnancy and ur in the scanning room being told ur child is so badly abnormal that if u give it birth it will die soon - its someting u dont want to hear!

its the most painful, heart aching moment in any1s life having to abort ur child when u had seen so many dreams for it, u had imagined such a beautiful life with it, ur small little family - and that one news has shattered everything! ur beautiful baby, a part of ur body is going to leave u - ughh u just dont want to b in that situation

yes u can b brave and go through the 9 months knowing how ur baby is and that it doesnt have a future that u had imagined for it! it wont survive long, and the society wont accept it normal! or abort it and pray to God to give u another chance! its very difficult! aborting a child isnt being selfish - if u cant look after the baby, if ur emotionally not perfect, then its best to end it coz u wont b giving it the life it deserves!

this topic for me is difficult coz iv been through it! i was pregnant and i was so happy when i had gone to the hospital for a scan but the result wasnt what i wanted to hear- im not sure what the condition medically was called but my baby didnt have a head to cover its brain at 15 weeks - which meant most likely either it was going to be born very abnormal with a very short span life (1hr) or that i was going to miscarriage putting my life in danger. I had no choice my husband wasnt going to put my life in danger n neither were my parents - i was in a shock mode to say anything andd still today i got this fear in my heart on trying again - its something that stays with u and haunts u - it makes u think y God can give healthy children to ppl who dont deserve it.

its a very hard topic to discuss! unless u know som1 or have been through it - u cant say its right or wrong!

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Posted: 02 July 2007 at 3:06am | IP Logged

Originally posted by Duha

welcome back!

i think abortion cant really be justified! its an own personal decision. God forbid, but when u go through the phase of pregnancy and ur in the scanning room being told ur child is so badly abnormal that if u give it birth it will die soon - its someting u dont want to hear!

its the most painful, heart aching moment in any1s life having to abort ur child when u had seen so many dreams for it, u had imagined such a beautiful life with it, ur small little family - and that one news has shattered everything! ur beautiful baby, a part of ur body is going to leave u - ughh u just dont want to b in that situation

Ya true....Peoples do abortion diff situation...sometime we cant blame them..but i feel its very tuff n crual dicision.

yes u can b brave and go through the 9 months knowing how ur baby is and that it doesnt have a future that u had imagined for it! it wont survive long, and the society wont accept it normal! or abort it and pray to God to give u another chance! its very difficult! aborting a child isnt being selfish - if u cant look after the baby, if ur emotionally not perfect, then its best to end it coz u wont b giving it the life it deserves!

this topic for me is difficult coz iv been through it! i was pregnant and i was so happy when i had gone to the hospital for a scan but the result wasnt what i wanted to hear- im not sure what the condition medically was called but my baby didnt have a head to cover its brain at 15 weeks - which meant most likely either it was going to be born very abnormal with a very short span life (1hr) or that i was going to miscarriage putting my life in danger. I had no choice my husband wasnt going to put my life in danger n neither were my parents - i was in a shock mode to say anything andd still today i got this fear in my heart on trying again - its something that stays with u and haunts u - it makes u think y God can give healthy children to ppl who dont deserve it.

its a very hard topic to discuss! unless u know som1 or have been through it - u cant say its right or wrong!

Well saidClapSmile

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