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Originally posted by Dabulls23

Culture and Values both play great part in one's life IMHO. But at the end of the day Value is something what you are made of. It differentiates you from others. Smile

but the values we seemingly imbibe are largely shaped by circumstances. and when we talk of circumstances, the place, religion, economic and social class, and family values/ culture of someone's birth are very important, by and large. no running away from birth circumstances.Smile

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Culture and Values both play great part in one's life IMHO. But at the end of the day Value is something what you are made of. It differentiates you from others. Smile

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culture and aspects relating to someone's birth religion and family are the framework around which we imbibe other values. 70 to 80% of the structure is already developed right there imo, the rest come from the specific circumstances one goes thru in life.

it's like this- a few career decisions in one's life shapes 90% of what we ultimately achieve. beyond that, we can work harder but we would be stuck pretty much in the same orbital level, with relatively minor differences in outcome. birth circumstances work the same way- whether we like it or not, they do give us most of the values we later exhibit.



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Posted: 08 May 2007 at 10:13am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Gauri_3

Originally posted by chatbuster

Originally posted by Gauri_3

Originally posted by Dabulls23

Culture and Values both play great part in one's life IMHO. But at the end of the day Value is something what you are made of. It differentiates you from others. Smile

bingo...Thumbs Up

culture and aspects relating to someone's birth religion and family are the framework around which we imbibe other values. 70 to 80% of the structure is already developed right there imo, the rest come from the specific circumstances one goes thru in life.

it's like this- a few career decisions in one's life shapes 90% of what we ultimately achieve. beyond that, we can work harder but we would be stuck pretty much in the same orbital level, with relatively minor differences in outcome. birth circumstances work te same way- whether we like it or not, they do give us most of the values we later exhibit.

agree with you here.  We are born into a culture but we are not born with high values.  Initially, it is the parents/family, who inculcate good values and morals in the child...later on the school also adds to the ability of distinguishing the right from the wrong....a person can make this distinction only when he has good basic values imo. 

Values make a person choose the ethical path as opposed to the unethical path.  Ethical values provide the foundation of civilized society.  Survival of any civilization/country depends on moral character of its people because people elect the government that runs the country.  Survival of any kind of social system, like law and order, thriving corporate sector etc. depends on the morality of its people.  Immoral people are not going to follow any law and order, irrespective of how good the judicial system is. 

Ethical values can be derived from religious principles, history, literature, or personal observation and experience.  Ethical values are strongly correlated to strong individual virtues because it takes a lot of courage and compassion to be able to put integrity before other commonly favored individual aspirations like wealth, fame, knowledge, and popularity. 

Therefore, CB ji, I agree with you that a combination of culture and ethics/values are more important than either one of them taken individually.Smile...but when two people belong to the same race, culture, background...it is their values that differentiate them from each otherSmile

Thanks Gauri for expanding on it which I had said in   one short sentence.   Big smile

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Posted: 08 May 2007 at 10:20am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Gauri_3

Originally posted by chatbuster

Originally posted by Gauri_3

Originally posted by Dabulls23

Culture and Values both play great part in one's life IMHO. But at the end of the day Value is something what you are made of. It differentiates you from others. Smile

bingo...Thumbs Up

culture and aspects relating to someone's birth religion and family are the framework around which we imbibe other values. 70 to 80% of the structure is already developed right there imo, the rest come from the specific circumstances one goes thru in life.

it's like this- a few career decisions in one's life shapes 90% of what we ultimately achieve. beyond that, we can work harder but we would be stuck pretty much in the same orbital level, with relatively minor differences in outcome. birth circumstances work te same way- whether we like it or not, they do give us most of the values we later exhibit.

agree with you here.  We are born into a culture but we are not born with high values.  Initially, it is the parents/family, who inculcate good values and morals in the child...later on the school also adds to the ability of distinguishing the right from the wrong....a person can make this distinction only when he has good basic values imo. 

Values make a person choose the ethical path as opposed to the unethical path.  Ethical values provide the foundation of civilized society.  Survival of any civilization/country depends on moral character of its people because people elect the government that runs the country.  Survival of any kind of social system, like law and order, thriving corporate sector etc. depends on the morality of its people.  Immoral people are not going to follow any law and order, irrespective of how good the judicial system is. 

Ethical values can be derived from religious principles, history, literature, or personal observation and experience.  Ethical values are strongly correlated to strong individual virtues because it takes a lot of courage and compassion to be able to put integrity before other commonly favored individual aspirations like wealth, fame, knowledge, and popularity. 

Therefore, CB ji, I agree with you that a combination of culture and ethics/values are more important than either one of them taken individually.Smile...but when two people belong to the same race, culture, background...it is their values that differentiate them from each otherSmile

two problems here. first, this does not take into account the huge differences between different cultures and compares people only within a particular culture.

second, even within a culture, most of the so-called values that you speak of do stem from circumstances relating to one's birth, for the most part. the rest that we seemingly imbibe are abstract notions- we really dont know, do we, unless we are tested? in other words, there's not a whole lot to hang the hat on unless it is family values/ religion/ culture relating to one's birth.

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Posted: 08 May 2007 at 10:33am | IP Logged
Originally posted by chatbuster

Originally posted by Gauri_3

Originally posted by Dabulls23

Culture and Values both play great part in one's life IMHO. But at the end of the day Value is something what you are made of. It differentiates you from others. Smile

bingo...Thumbs Up

culture and aspects relating to someone's birth religion and family are the framework around which we imbibe other values. 70 to 80% of the structure is already developed right there imo, the rest come from the specific circumstances one goes thru in life.

it's like this- a few career decisions in one's life shapes 90% of what we ultimately achieve. beyond that, we can work harder but we would be stuck pretty much in the same orbital level, with relatively minor differences in outcome. birth circumstances work the same way- whether we like it or not, they do give us most of the values we later exhibit.

Very true CB. I was about to post that all cultures have a set of values that we imbibe, and all of them may or may not be to our liking, or clash with the values we develop later on. That doesn't mean we should choose between the two or put one over the other. It's like some branches of palmistry believe that your left hand indicates what you were born with and your right shows what you will make of that. 

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