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Posted: 04 January 2007 at 11:53am | IP Logged

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Posted: 04 January 2007 at 12:06pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Maya_M

Originally posted by sareg

why is this a problem, current Muslims in our country are as much Indians as we are, this is not religous class, this is HISTORY

I concur to this views.

Why should anyone be touchy about history? History should depict real facts. There were certain Hindu Kings who easily gave away their provinces to Britishers and remained dummy Kings to enjoy all luxury when others suffered. Mugals did invade Northen provinces just like Portugese entered through Kerala, East India company through Bengal later.

The problem is that the REAL facts are disputed...

If u read the Pakistani textbooks u'll get a totally different perspective... They have said something to the effect of.. The Hindu Society was totally ruined by the caste system and the Muslim invaders brought Islam to India as a savior to rescue all those who wanted to free themselves from the evils of the Indian Society... Muslims came to India for their own good and things like that...

One thing can be looked at from different perspectives... Instead of feeding young kids with ur own perspective... Its better to present those facts tht are not disputed... And let the children form opinions of their own...

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Posted: 04 January 2007 at 12:11pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by sareg

I am not saying let us rewrite the entire history, but I do not want someone to teach a history from a political correct standpoint and forget about the atrocities committed, b'cos what we saw in Aurangzeb is revisiting us in the form of Taliban and we should have been the best prepared for this, than anybody else in the world b'cos we have dealt with this form earlier on.

But our current generation is left oblivious to this history and an important lesson is lost

We all are now citizens of this country, we should all know where we came from, what mistakes were made by our forefathers, so we do not repeat them, if you hid the mistakes of our forefathers, we will repeat them

History can be taught without causing religious disharmony

History can be taught w/o religious disharmony... But the present situation of the country does not permit that... Imagine history being taught justifying the demolition of the Babri Masjid... The overall portrayal of Muslims is a little in the negative.. Which invariably affects the student's line of thought...

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Posted: 04 January 2007 at 12:32pm | IP Logged
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Originally posted by swordfishh

History can be taught w/o religious disharmony... But the present situation of the country does not permit that... Imagine history being taught justifying the demolition of the Babri Masjid... The overall portrayal of Muslims is a little in the negative.. Which invariably affects the student's line of thought...

History is just not about one Babri Masjid. Muhammd Ghouri was one of the cruel invaders. In my opinion glorifying him is like feeding children with wrong information. Some facts in the history can never be deleted. So instead of giving children politically correct information, give them real facts.

If one says that Mughals attacked Indian provices then in what way would you or me be affected? All of us know the fact that we were under British rule for so many years still don't we move to UK/US/ Australia and live happily? Do we hate them?

We dont hate British because they are far far away... They live somewhere in Europe now and they have left India for good... The same cannot be said about the others... And another funny thing is how Pakistani textbooks show Aurangzeb as a noble and benevolent ruler and Indian textbooks exactly the opposite... None really knows the true facts...

Mughals attacked Indian provinces... Thats a true fact..

But what about a statement like... "Muslim invaders plundered the Hindus and forcibly converted them. Many of the people in India are their descendants and relatives who belong to their community." ... This is not an exact quote but one textbook says something like tht... Another textbook says.. "Relatives and well wishers of one of our neighbouring countries stay in the state of Rajasthan and indulge in many terrorist activties. Their atrocities date back to when they invaded India many centuries back." 

Indians believe something to be true... When aspersions are cast on the validity of a few historical events... Its better to downplay the entire thing...

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Posted: 04 January 2007 at 12:38pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by swordfishh

The problem is that the REAL facts are disputed...

If u read the Pakistani textbooks u'll get a totally different perspective... They have said something to the effect of.. The Hindu Society was totally ruined by the caste system and the Muslim invaders brought Islam to India as a savior to rescue all those who wanted to free themselves from the evils of the Indian Society...

Ok Hindu society is still divided on caste basis, so it is ok, for someone to walk in and attack IndiaLOLLOLLOL, they really teach that to their kids? no wonder

Muslims(not muslims, Mughals, let us make a distinction) came to India for their own good and things like that...

yes, to fill the pocketsWink

One thing can be looked at from different perspectives... Instead of feeding young kids with ur own perspective... Its better to present those facts tht are not disputed... And let the children form opinions of their own...

This is a justification to the killing/raping of Hindu men/women, that occurred under the Mughal rule, yeah way to go thereThumbs Up

and we are too ashamed to put in the history books in India b'cos we dont want our fellow citizens to feel ashamed of their forefathers?

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