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Posted: 23 June 2005 at 7:27am | IP Logged
It's really a good topic. And I agree with bluepink. They have not only shown Punjabi but also Gujarati, South Indian in movies and made their fun. I am Gujarati and I know that in movies these days they are using lot of heavy Gujarati accent, which not all Gujarati speak. I same goes with Punjabi. I think there are all kind of different people in all region and all over the world. You cannot generalize whole cast, creed, region, nation, because of some people. We have this saying in gujarati "crow are black everywhere" ….. all we can do is ignore those things, laugh at lively humour and get some entertainment and not take things personally. And I really believe in thing that if someone calls me fool it does not make me one…. !!! believe in your self, in your religion in your family and just 'coz someone else tries to prove you wrong you don't become wrong…. People who really love you and know you are always with you and they don't need to be shown anything. Those jokes about Punjabi really does not make me judge Punjabi people 'coz I have friends who are Punjabi and I know them more than media is showing me.

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Posted: 23 June 2005 at 9:24am | IP Logged

This topic deals with Stereotypes and prejudices which we have developed over the years.

Here are just a few examples:

Punjabis/Sardarjis are regarded as unintelligent or stupid, who do a "balle balle" at every opportunity

Gujaratis are loud, stingy and speak with heavy accents and a Ketaki Dave type "Arra ra ra raaa" to add a punch

Parsis are rich, lecherous old men wearing duglis and phetos or fat women with glasses who always keep saying "dikra" in a disapproving tone

Blonde women are thought to be carbon-copies of Pamela Anderson with empty heads

Italians are loud, boistrous and fat with bowls of pasta tucked away in every corner of the house

French people always seem to replace a "That" with a "zat", sport berets and are always called "Pierre" or "Marie"

African Americans are regarded as elements of a "ghetto" environment, wearing baggy pants, loose shirts, gaudy jewellery (Bling Bling), snorting cocaine and saying "'Sup yaww/dawg"

The point is that Stereotypes exist everywhere. Its up to us to look beyond the stereotype portrayed by the media and see things for what they really are.

Originally posted by bgdesai

all we can do is ignore those things, laugh at lively humour and get some entertainment and not take things personally. And I really believe in thing that if someone calls me fool it does not make me one…. !!! believe in your self, in your religion in your family and just 'coz someone else tries to prove you wrong you don't become wrong…

Perfectly summed up, BG!



Edited by MysticaMagic - 23 June 2005 at 9:39am

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Yo peacestead I respect u for bringing up this topic and I totally agree with u.  I am also a Sikh Punjabi and I am very proud of it too.  I really hate it when they in stupid hindi movies they make fun of us punjabis and I specially hate Johnny Lever for that.  Also they don't even show the punjabi guy dressed up properly.  Have u ever seen the way they wear the pag (turban)?  That is so lame and it upsets me to a great extent.  Even white people are better than the rest of Indians because they don't make fun of us Punjabis.  That's why I love Canada not India except for Punjab of course.  (By saying I don't like India I mean Indian people who make fun of other cultures)  and this just doesn't happen with us Punjabis.  I have seen this happen to many of the south Indian communities.  And then I feel even more angry.  If Indians cannot learn to respect each other, why would other countires respect Indians?  U know I think all the communities who r made fun of in hindi movies should get together and teach these producers and directers a lesson so they will think twice before making fun of somebody.  (I am really sorry if I hurt somebody's feelingsOuch)

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Posted: 23 June 2005 at 1:57pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by tvmaniac

Originally posted by bgdesai

It's really a good topic. And I agree with bluepink.
They have not only shown Punjabi but also Gujarati, South Indian in
movies and made their fun. I am Gujarati and I know that in movies
these days they are using lot of heavy Gujarati accent, which not all
Gujarati speak. I same goes with Punjabi. I think there are all kind of
different people in all region and all over the world. You cannot
generalize whole cast, creed, region, nation, because of some people.
We have this saying in gujarati "crow are black everywhere" ….. all we
can do is ignore those things, laugh at lively humour and get some
entertainment and not take things personally. And I really believe in
thing that if someone calls me fool it does not make me one…. !!!
believe in your self, in your religion in your family and just 'coz
someone else tries to prove you wrong you don't become wrong…. People
who really love you and know you are always with you and they don't
need to be shown anything. Those jokes about Punjabi really does not
make me judge Punjabi people 'coz I have friends who are Punjabi and I
know them more than media is showing me.


ekdum saras kidu bgben , manne tamara vichaar bau saras lagyaa


oh man bg "ben" ... bhai- tamaro khub khub abhar ke tamne amara vicharo sara lagye... God this sounds like some Gujju natak Tongue LOL

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Posted: 24 June 2005 at 7:50am | IP Logged
the reason that sardarji jokes (its generally not punjabi humour just sardarji humour) is seen everywhere is because the sardarji community was always considered a light-hearted sportive community. infact their jokes became so famous because they were a community who could carry their jokes better than others could....(yes sardarjis are known for making the best sardarji jokes)....Smile
now when it comes to showing sardarjis as stupid in movies, i would say a better word to use would be hilarious. they might show them ignorant, but always they emerge as good hearted hero's friends in the end....Smile

and why is it that all movies in bollywood are punjabi based when punjab is only one of the many states in india...all surnames and families are mehras & chopras (only the rajshris used to make movies on the UP clans). all families punjabis, all songs balle balle/mahi ve (even in movies e.g. kaante that had nothing to do with punjabis), all festivals punjabis.............. its only after the recent devdas that people are even reflecting on the bengali people...i dont even know when they will start considering other states. i still think that sardarjis have a considerable role to play in hindi movies....

what about marwaris? does bollywood even know the difference between keralites, kannadikas, tamilians and andhrites? all they about south India is madrasi and a ridiculous looking man with dhoti and ash on his forehead, idlis and dosas......rajnikanth, chiranjeevi & kamalhassan were not even encouraged to keep foot into the bollywood industry. You say this forum is clean? In this forum i have seen many a member insult south Indians....Cry

why, maharashtra is the cradle of bollywood, but the only marathi stuff they manage to show is ladies still sporting the fisherman style 9 yard outfit and screaming "kaay zaala or bhankaas".......gujaratis, parsis none of them are spared when it comes to movies....Cry

all i am trying to say is that it is not only sardarjis that are made fun of but all other states as well.... atleast punjabis and sardarjis play a role in bollywood...compared to them the rest of the states are peanuts...

all i am saying is that please think before making accusationsCry

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Posted: 24 June 2005 at 7:52am | IP Logged
i agree! i';m a sikh punjabi and proud of it!Wink but they alwasy make punjabi's as they are stupid, all they do is balle balle, and talk loud! i hate it when they make fun of them! punjabi's are very sucessful, they are smart, and very nice. i've also noticed that they do it to all cultures like gujarati people also and many other cultures! Angryand that is wrong! Angry

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Posted: 24 June 2005 at 7:58am | IP Logged
Originally posted by lashforever

the reason that sardarji jokes (its generally not punjabi humour just
sardarji humour) is seen everywhere is because the sardarji community
was always considered a light-hearted sportive community. infact their
jokes became so famous because they were a community who could carry
their jokes better than others could....(yes sardarjis are known for
making the best sardarji jokes)....Smile
now when it comes to showing sardarjis as stupid in movies, i would say
a better word to use would be hilarious. they might show them ignorant,
but always they emerge as good hearted hero's friends in the end....Smile

and why is it that all movies in bollywood are punjabi based when
punjab is only one of the many states in india...all surnames and
families are mehras & chopras (only the rajshris used to make
movies on the UP clans). all families punjabis, all songs balle
balle/mahi ve (even in movies e.g. kaante that had nothing to do with
punjabis), all festivals punjabis.............. its only after the
recent devdas that people are even reflecting on the bengali people...i
dont even know when they will start considering other states. i still
think that sardarjis have a considerable role to play in hindi
movies....

what about marwaris? does bollywood even know the difference between
keralites, kannadikas, tamilians and andhrites? all they about south
India is madrasi and a ridiculous looking man with dhoti and ash on his
forehead, idlis and dosas......rajnikanth, chiranjeevi &
kamalhassan were not even encouraged to keep foot into the bollywood
industry. You say this forum is clean? In this forum i have seen many a
member insult south Indians....Cry

why, maharashtra is the cradle of bollywood, but the only marathi stuff
they manage to show is ladies still sporting the fisherman style 9 yard
outfit and screaming "kaay zaala or bhankaas".......gujaratis, parsis
none of them are spared when it comes to movies....Cry

all i am trying to say is that it is not only sardarjis that are made
fun of but all other states as well.... atleast punjabis and sardarjis
play a role in bollywood...compared to them the rest of the states are
peanuts...

all i am saying is that please think before making accusationsCry



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Posted: 25 June 2005 at 9:05am | IP Logged
ya, Gujju natak are aweful..though some of them are helarious... I haven't seen much just 2-3 but they use typical gujju accent and traditional language thats sometime so hard to even understand.... LOL Ya, the way you wrote gujju I assumed you might be Gujju..anyways!

So "the play was vulgaar...that you actually liked it" Confused huh!!!!

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