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Posted: 30 April 2016 at 6:02am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Divine-Pearl

If there was little planning and plotting, we can say let's forgive and move on, but attempt to murder is something really ridiculous. Insecurity is one thing and crime is another. In Insecurity people try to put down others, not stoop to the level when you start playing with life of your own blood and flesh.
In entire laksh-swara fiasco, she acted like an immature brat. Either she wanted to commit suicide or wanted swara to die. She was like both of us can't live, one should die.

All of above just for one rejection? She should have taken it with pinch of salt. 

I have said this before Ragini has no story, her character was ruined beyond redemption. To glorify one lead, they totally messed up another. She was not given proper redemption track like sanskar, if we look at the title, Ragini is more important than sanskar, and  still she was not treated well. she was the one who accepted those (shekhar shomi) who cheated on her mom with open arms, there was no ego issue or jealousy with her. From nowhere she turned into murderer just because of one rejection and after few months out of blue she was made a saint. There is no justification for her misdeeds AND there is no explanation behind her new and reformed version
 
@ bold sorry i agree with each and every pointy but not this one.

if someone was cheated someone that shekhar who most of all cheated sharmistha and swara (though swara unknowingly but still) and janki to some extent by marrying her when he was in love with sharmistha

but sharmistha never cheated anyone except her ex husband allthough that story is also not clear .
she may or may not be be guilty there.

but tell what is fault of sharmistha if her BF decide to leave her after getting physical and married another person

infact she is biggest victim in these matter who has to bought up her daughter  all alone just becoz her BF was a coward

yes i agree it take a large heart to give place of your mother to your father ex GF 

but we cannot say sharmistha any way cheated janki

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Posted: 30 April 2016 at 6:18am | IP Logged
First of all Ragini was never deprived of love from her father or her dadi. One who is deprived  of is Swara, she was raised by her mother and dida. Lakshya is the first to fall in love with Swara. She  really tried to get rid of him, but she is not able to control her attraction ,and eventually fell in love with him. Swara did one fault and that is not talking about her  undeniable attraction for  Lucky to Ragini . Ragini became obsessive knowing that her half sister had fallen in love with her would be hubby.
                       I don't know about anyone else but if I would be in her place, I'll never allow me to be a murderer myself.That too for a guy like Lucky, who cheated her. I Should never push my sister for someone who is not faithful to me. Embarrassed


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Posted: 30 April 2016 at 9:17am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Apudeep

First of all Ragini was never deprived of love from her father or her dadi. One who is deprived  of is Swara, she was raised by her mother and dida. Lakshya is the first to fall in love with Swara. She  really tried to get rid of him, but she is not able to control her attraction ,and eventually fell in love with him. Swara did one fault and that is not talking about her  undeniable attraction for  Lucky to Ragini . Ragini became obsessive knowing that her half sister had fallen in love with her would be hubby.
                       I don't know about anyone else but if I would be in her place, I'll never allow me to be a murderer myself.That too for a guy like Lucky, who cheated her. I Should never push my sister for someone who is not faithful to me. Embarrassed

I don't agree with the statement that swara was deprived of any love. true that she didnt have a father figure in her life and her picture perfect family, but the love that she had was far more unconditional. Dida was the best role model there could have been and for all shomi's faults as a mother in pushing her own love story through, she did love swara a lot. in fact, swara had the love of shomi, dida,. then laksh fell in love with her and then sanskar. laksh's love may have been immature but it didnt have any ill intent with it. 

shekhar and dadi's love for ragini on the other hand was conditional. it was conditional on her following their rules and ways. 

please don't misunderstand what i am trying to say here. there is no question that ragini did some very very very wrong things. ones that needed proper punishment. i also wont go into the details of the dragging of negative track that CVs did nor the fast tracking of the redemption that they did. she should have been slowly redeemed given her crimes. 

my only contention with comments here is the view that she was loved and pampered. 

for me pampering is when you love someone so much ...unconditionally that you ignore their mistakes and even apologies to the victim for it, instead of reprimanding the perpetrator. it is where you have highlighted the right values and all, but when they don't follow it, you become sad, but don't shout at them. the person who was really pampered was laksh. but ragini didnt fall in that category.

think back to every time she was caught. shekhar, dadi practically washed their hands off her (in fact dadi even forgot her own crimes and threw them on ragini's head). no one in mm was in a mood to forgive. she had taunts coming her way...and rightfully so. 

after the fake memory loss, AP may have ignored things but others were very pissed off with her. during malkin track no one was interesting in looking the other way (which would have happened if she was pampered) ...and justifiably so. of course dadi was with her since she was the one instigating ragini in the whole mess when shekhar and ragini were ready to get laksh out of jail. 

unlike AP where she tried to inculcate some right values into laksh, dadi was always interested in pushing ragini in the wrong direction...feeding her with wrong info because of her hatred for shomi and swara. shekhar was the worst kind of father. he never paid much attention to his daughter or to how his mother was raising her. who was there to give her that genuine love??? shomi cared for her alright...she was a loving person...but that is diff from loving someone. she too did not see the pain in ragini with all the rejections. any mother in the engagement scenario would have slapped laksh and gone and told shekhar, ragini and dadi the truth and said i will not let my daughter's life be ruined by such a man. she is not going to marry him. no need for faking fainting and then not even being willing to reveal it until dadi caught her for it. 

swara did love ragini in her own way...as did ragini...but again both sisters didnt love each other so much that they would put the other one in front of their love for a third person - laksh. 

the only person who had somewhat show ragini love without some mal intent funnily is AP. which is a bit tragic. but no one else loved her the way you and i would be in a healthy family. swara was more blind to her faults and stuck to her own picture of perfect family forgiving everyone who was part of that picture on numerous occasions. i wish i could call it love. but it really isn't anything healthy 

i did not see all the epis in the beginning so i have a question for those who did. in the beginning did everyone think of swara as illegitimate child? i thought everyone thought she was the child of shomi with her ex-husband and then when shekhar-shomi truth was revealed it came out. i might be wrong in this one ...hence asking if anyone knows.

i agree that if you and i were in ragini's place we wouldnt have turned murderers. we would have moved on from a person like laksh. equally i would like to think that if you and i were in swara's place, we would have let go of laksh and choosen our sister. and probably not gotten engaged to him. but then again this is fiction and TV world. nothing here is all that real. if it were, many of the characters would have been in jail (incl ragini) and many of them would have been dead given their injuries. not to mention there would have been a lot more fights in the family seeing that the younger bahu is taking decisions publicly for the eldest one. that if it happened in real life, would cause a mahabharat in the family.


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Posted: 30 April 2016 at 12:51pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by foresight

Originally posted by Apudeep

First of all Ragini was never deprived of love from her father or her dadi. One who is deprived  of is Swara, she was raised by her mother and dida. Lakshya is the first to fall in love with Swara. She  really tried to get rid of him, but she is not able to control her attraction ,and eventually fell in love with him. Swara did one fault and that is not talking about her  undeniable attraction for  Lucky to Ragini . Ragini became obsessive knowing that her half sister had fallen in love with her would be hubby.
                       I don't know about anyone else but if I would be in her place, I'll never allow me to be a murderer myself.That too for a guy like Lucky, who cheated her. I Should never push my sister for someone who is not faithful to me. Embarrassed

I don't agree with the statement that swara was deprived of any love. true that she didnt have a father figure in her life and her picture perfect family, but the love that she had was far more unconditional. Dida was the best role model there could have been and for all shomi's faults as a mother in pushing her own love story through, she did love swara a lot. in fact, swara had the love of shomi, dida,. then laksh fell in love with her and then sanskar. laksh's love may have been immature but it didnt have any ill intent with it. 

shekhar and dadi's love for ragini on the other hand was conditional. it was conditional on her following their rules and ways. 

please don't misunderstand what i am trying to say here. there is no question that ragini did some very very very wrong things. ones that needed proper punishment. i also wont go into the details of the dragging of negative track that CVs did nor the fast tracking of the redemption that they did. she should have been slowly redeemed given her crimes. 

my only contention with comments here is the view that she was loved and pampered. 

for me pampering is when you love someone so much ...unconditionally that you ignore their mistakes and even apologies to the victim for it, instead of reprimanding the perpetrator. it is where you have highlighted the right values and all, but when they don't follow it, you become sad, but don't shout at them. the person who was really pampered was laksh. but ragini didnt fall in that category.

think back to every time she was caught. shekhar, dadi practically washed their hands off her (in fact dadi even forgot her own crimes and threw them on ragini's head). no one in mm was in a mood to forgive. she had taunts coming her way...and rightfully so. 

after the fake memory loss, AP may have ignored things but others were very pissed off with her. during malkin track no one was interesting in looking the other way (which would have happened if she was pampered) ...and justifiably so. of course dadi was with her since she was the one instigating ragini in the whole mess when shekhar and ragini were ready to get laksh out of jail. 

unlike AP where she tried to inculcate some right values into laksh, dadi was always interested in pushing ragini in the wrong direction...feeding her with wrong info because of her hatred for shomi and swara. shekhar was the worst kind of father. he never paid much attention to his daughter or to how his mother was raising her. who was there to give her that genuine love??? shomi cared for her alright...she was a loving person...but that is diff from loving someone. she too did not see the pain in ragini with all the rejections. any mother in the engagement scenario would have slapped laksh and gone and told shekhar, ragini and dadi the truth and said i will not let my daughter's life be ruined by such a man. she is not going to marry him. no need for faking fainting and then not even being willing to reveal it until dadi caught her for it. 

swara did love ragini in her own way...as did ragini...but again both sisters didnt love each other so much that they would put the other one in front of their love for a third person - laksh. 

the only person who had somewhat show ragini love without some mal intent funnily is AP. which is a bit tragic. but no one else loved her the way you and i would be in a healthy family. swara was more blind to her faults and stuck to her own picture of perfect family forgiving everyone who was part of that picture on numerous occasions. i wish i could call it love. but it really isn't anything healthy 

i did not see all the epis in the beginning so i have a question for those who did. in the beginning did everyone think of swara as illegitimate child? i thought everyone thought she was the child of shomi with her ex-husband and then when shekhar-shomi truth was revealed it came out. i might be wrong in this one ...hence asking if anyone knows.

i agree that if you and i were in ragini's place we wouldnt have turned murderers. we would have moved on from a person like laksh. equally i would like to think that if you and i were in swara's place, we would have let go of laksh and choosen our sister. and probably not gotten engaged to him. but then again this is fiction and TV world. nothing here is all that real. if it were, many of the characters would have been in jail (incl ragini) and many of them would have been dead given their injuries. not to mention there would have been a lot more fights in the family seeing that the younger bahu is taking decisions publicly for the eldest one. that if it happened in real life, would cause a mahabharat in the family.

@ bold how come you say she is not pampered didn't dadi support her with false  molestation case just after giving her one slap and little bit scolding

shekar and dadi again forgive ragini after her truth revelation after ragini done her fake memory loss

okay i can leave it for health issue they did it 

why no question  asked when her truth came out once again  and during malkin track

specialy shekar who knew she was wrong 

whereas lakshya love for swara was conditional that she had to prove herself right in front of him everytime

and atleast lakshya  had to go to jail for his crimes even if it is for a short time

@ italic it is not always easy to read a person  mind 
 and when relation is so new how is it possible

if u have seen episode swara was in no mood to accept lakshya at first 

it was only ragini who convince her that she had move on and somewhat influence swara to accept lakshya

but i am not saying whole blame of swara acceptance  of lakshya love should lie with ragini becoz she was an adult but we cannot blame her for not caring  for ragini

swara's love for ragini was selfless to an extent that it irritate  me 

may what be the reason be it wanting perfect family or any other  




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when you are old enough to steer the vehicle high time you stop blaming others for giving you wrong directions.

Sanskaar: He introduced Ragini to dark world. and he is the one who told her to quit. REPEATEDLY. He was even ready to take the entire blame on himself. Ragini who readily agreed to his wrong suggestions turned deaf ears to his right ones. She made her CHOICE. Sanskaar can be blamed for making her take first step in the wrong path. he is NOT responsible for her continuous journey.

Swara: She shouldn't have fall in love or idea of love with Laksh no matter what the circumstances or Ragini's own Go ahead signal. you don't fall for your best friend's or sister's Man. unwritten code of conduct in the girls world. I think Swara feels guilty of the same. hence her obsessive love and excuses and forgiveness for ragini and her crimes. Swara may have wronged Ragini without meaning too but she DOESN'T deserve to be pushed off bridges, stabbed, maligned and much more for that.

Dadi: she may be strict, over bearing, double standards ka galore, not a good moral compass and all but she LOVES her Laado the most. she should have tried to bring her darling grand daughter from wrong path instead of joining her in the journey.. But it was again Ragini's choice, emotional blackmail and manipulations triumphed over.

Shekhar: Sorry excuse of a father. but again he LOVES his younger child the most. over his wife and supposed love or the first child he so conveniently abandons at first sign of mistake.
and Yes he cheated his first wife on emotional level. Sharmistha didn't. she was NOT the second woman. if anything she was the wronged one. Ragini accepted Shomi that's beautiful. but she also kidnapped a very sick shomi, almost sent her to jail besides separating her parents. Ragini's crimes triumphs over others.

Laksh.. he is the main culprit. but neither he nor his family deserved what Ragini put through them during her Malkin track and more.

so why are we STILL making excuses and justifying Ragini?
she is a criminal, a psychopath, an obsessive gone girl who didn't get any proper redemption. a stab on stomach which needed not even a band aid doesn't count.

and I happen to be someone who loved her in her initial Dark avatar.



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Few more thoughts:

Ragini accepted Shomi and Swara without grudges and with pure heart.
She is the one who has first let go of her engagement to the man she loved for her new found family.
She is the one who choose to take care of Shomi over getting engaged again.
she showed overwhelming kindness to 'crazy' Sanskaar.
She loved everyone truly and treated everyone kindly.
she is the one who has got most beautiful heart among all characters.

and then she embraced dark and pushed Swara off the bridge. I got REASONS for her turning the way she did. and since I dig dark I loved watching her create havoc in her dark avatar.
Then first revelation happened. and what she did after that has no reasons.
and her antics during and after Maalkin track has got NO JUSTIFICATIONS.

we can blame Cvs for her actions there but then again we can also blame the same Cvs for criminal acts of Sanskaar, Mahanta of Swara and stupidity of Laksh. but these characters don't get any leeway. so why should Ragini get a free pass? especially when her redemption track is a joke.

The Ragini Lover in me looks back in pain at 'What could have been'.
but I don't want to lump what is dished out for the simple reason that it is beneath the dark Ragini I loved once.

Ragini has got NO justifications or reasons to do what she did after a point of time. Plain and simple!




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Posted: 30 April 2016 at 11:22pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by foresight

simple thing with ragini is that wrong was done to her and she also did wrong. let us not mince words here.
could she/should she have still held herself together and not gone down the route of wrong despite wrong having been done to her - absolutely. 

should she have gotten over her obsessions and moved on - yes - it would have been a lot healthier for her if she had

but was wrong done to her - yes it was. her doing wrong doesnt take away from that. 

I have said before many times that she is 80% responsible for the wrong path that she went down. she should have held on to stronger moral compass and stayed on the right path. but equally 20% of responsibility is with the others who pushed her down the route. 

Ragini has been very insecure and very people have understood or picked it up. and the truth is that she was right fully insecure. anyone in her position would be. that is not a justification for her wrong deeds because we all know there can be no justification for that, but equally her insecurity was real. 

she grew up in a house where she wasnt allowed to express herself. she had to follow the dictat of the family esp her dadi who wasnt all that correct person herself. she was told that she was to be married to someone and that someone would be whole and sole, her upbringing was such that she took it for was it was. she never really had the love of shekhar despite what many say. he had himself said in some of the episodes that he would tell her to be more like swara (it is a different matter that he wasnt a good father to swara either) but he wasnt always there as a father for ragini either. dadi while taking her side and loving her, had her own agenda that were important to her. so she was at that point craving for love from anyone who would give it. her hopes now from shomi, swara and laksh given what was happening with dadi and shekhar. but shomi when she found out about laksh loving swara, instead of talking to the family pretended to faint. ragini worried about her more than her engagement, asked for it to be canceled, only to find out shomi had pretended to faint. she might not have wanted to hurt three lives, but it wasnt exactly what a mother should have done. then shomi wakes up to ragini's mistakes as a mother and only slaps her post swasan wedding to bring her to correct path. what happened to bringing the back to correct path before? netter shomi nor swara despite their caring realised that ragini loved laksh was was in pain over the quick wedding despite her pushing for it. swara loved her sister blindly - very very true --- and to the extent that it irked us. but like she was blind to ragini's faults, she was also blind to her pain over laksh. laksh the one person that she hoped was her salvation broke her heart again and again. and chose her sister. her best friend sanskar (who i like the most in the show) also gave her a nudge in the wrong direction and then realising his own mistake moved back...and asked her to...but may be not as strongly enough.

so was wrong done to her...yes...did that mean she should have done all the manipulations and hurt and games that she did - nopes.

did other characters have their own issues and pitfalls - yes. but since this post is about ragini - i am sticking to her character

about the CVs less said the better since they have messed up a lot of characters already. sanskar included.
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if u r justifying raginis character this much and her deeds then go and justify all the criminals in ur country 
im asking u.. are u justifying that raginis attempt of killing swara?
we are now ok with ragini
come one just move on 
yh she turned negative coz her love but that does not mean her attepmts to her love is right
stop talking about this 
sorry if my comment is so rude
its not the actress or the character we dont like its the things she did to get her love

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