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Posted: 16 April 2016 at 10:38am | IP Logged
Originally posted by sweet_diksha

Thanks Harshu... one of the good episodes... specially full of Jalal episode... Jo just in one scene that too FB... anyway, that's CVs ' version...so let it be...but as far as I remember , Pari had gone on leave, after that rift with first director over that consummation scenes, and this was the time... and there was a news, that before going on leave, she shot few scenes , after ekta gave some temp director and those scenes were used for few days...and later when she rejoined the shoot, the director was changed, and the new director stayed till the consummation episode, and later Ekta brought a totally new director, who was good with everybody, so later the shoot went on smoothly...

anyway, the thing here is, today's was again no Jodha episode, except Jallu's FB...

anyway, coming to episode...I m not going to write abt Jallu's visit to bazar and all... let's go to the court scene...Jalal calls those ppl or pilgrims... and they state that now they have only two options, one is to finish their lives or leave Mughal sultanat... and reason is, they always suffered injustice, and even being the native ppl of the land, just coz the ruler was of diff religion, they were treated as unequal...

a very imp scene, which was shown as a sudden thing for Jalal to make the law... this was the chance where they could have shown, some good scenes as FB...like : JAlal remembering Jo accusing him as invader of her soil, as a person who looted the natives, as a person who gives justice to only his religion that means he always does injustice to the other religions which originally belongs to this land...CVs had gr8 chance to show this, that will make him think abt his rule , if he really was doing injustice, and if Jo too had faced the same injustice from him, when he sides with ruku and MA even when Jo is right and others r wrong.. (I m not saying abt Suja track)... they could have shown Jalal thinking of Jo's insecurity for being of different religion, and thus understanding her problems which would make him think abt what common ppl will be facing when his own beloved queen is also victim of such rules in his kingdom... and then Jalal making the law...this would have been more convincing...

anyway, still this was much better than other tracks which were too much messed up...Jallu visits bazar, he sees the injustice with his eyes, then he remembers Jo's words, then next day he calls those ppl and hears them, and makes the new law...good...

the only thing I loved in all this was Ruku's shocked face, coz I think she was the one who was behind this tax law.. remember she has confrontation with Jo in initial episodes...so BEK ki hafta vasooli band...good decision Jallu...but in all this watch out MA's face... like she was calculation Jalal's each and every move...naturally she knows for whom Jalal is doing all this...

so now tom we will get to see the Hindus gifting "Quran" to Jalal, and Jo's decision to return after learning abt abolition of tax...and abt the real reason behind Jo's decision , I think, that now the insecurity that she will never get justice if Jalal has to choose btw her and MA-Ruku duo...and she will always have to face humiliations and injustice even if she is right...but with this one decision from Jalal, her insecurity abt her position in his life is , wiped away...as Jalal decision has assured her that he is now all set to protect her self-respect against all odds...no wonder she wants to meet her love ASAP...coz the trust is reinstated...

welcum diksha...ya d epi was good and all jallu based we got jo only as fb but still it was a good one coz it was based on pilgrim tax and her question to him whether d tax was right or wrong...ruku was shocked but I njoyed d most maham's face poor lady since was banned from giving any opinion to jallu had to bear everything whch she wasn't in favor off... LOL Wink her angry xpressions made me laugh... LOL ya 2mrw it will b d awam gifting him quran and jo's decision of coming bk to agra... Big smile

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Originally posted by sweet_diksha

unres on pg 1...

so many probs here... firstly the power was restored here after full 24 hrs... and now again the net connection is giving probs...


power after 24 hrs resumed? Shocked its horrible and dat too in dis hot summer...even m having net prob... Confused

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Originally posted by harshu27

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Harshu di, Thanks for the update.Big smile


The episode was awesome today, with Jalal being the rock
star throughout.StarStarStar


It is said real Akbar also used to go out among the common
men to better understand their problems. This is one habit of Jalal I so love.


As Todarmal explained to him yesterday, he can't understand
the problems of the people he doesn't even know. The best way to understand the common people's grievances is to first experience what they go through everyday.

As Salim Chishti Baba had said, " Jo Shehenshah apni marzi se aam ban jaye, woh taareeq badalta hai..."Star

The AkDha flashback was a good one. I loved Jo's reply to Jalal's question about whether pilgrim tax is right or not. Her way of getting her point across was a very diplomatic one, and therefore, a very rare thing to see onscreen.StarHer answer was appropriate, since had she said that the pilgrim tax was unnecessary and an injustice, being a Hindu herself, that wold have been taken as a bias. But she nailed it by replying that it was none of her business and she was doing what she could. And then, in a masterstroke, she used reverse psychology by asking him to step in the tax givers place. She rocked it man!!!StarClapStar

Now, without a doubt, the 2nd half of the episode belonged to the Shehenshah Jalal... a ruler still remembered for his tolerant policies towards his subjects.Star

Everything was bang on in this scene. Jalal's every argument was to the point, his aura so authoritative, no one could dare defy him in the court!Star

How he shut the orthodox ones up was mind-blowing! Yes, true, if Hindus can pay a tax, why not the Muslims? This left them speechless, no doubt.

Considering his subjects equal, doing all he can for their welfare, going against the unjust social norms, these are only a few of the things that are going to make Jalal what he is today remembered as...Akbar.StarStarBig smile

Good, he gave strict punishment to all involved. What a jhatka it would have been for the poor soldier to know that it was Jalal himself watching him!LOLTo top Jalal's anger, he lied in front of him that he got some wrong news perhaps...AngryLOL

At last, I loved the way Jalal said, " Hum sabse zyada dhoka humari apni hi kaum ke logon ne diya hai..." That was a fitting reply to all stating that he was losing interes in his religion, and bringing Hindus to the court.StarMaham understood that she was included in the list too, though her face didn't change much.

It also so unfortunate for Jalal to have been betrayed by his own people. The pain of this betrayal reflects in his eyes, along with the pride associated with the fact that he hasn't done a mistake by keeping Hindus close to him.


welcum and lovely review as always... Big smile d epi was awsum and it was jalal rocking thru out... Star ya real Akbar did go as common man and chk on his subjects and its really interesting to see it onscreen...thnk god at least cvs did show us such scenes LOL salim chisti's dialog was perfect for jalal and it was true also... Clap thnx fr mentioning it here... Tongue d fb scene was good and ya jo was really awusm in making him ponder over whether d tax was right or wrong and indeed using reverse psychology she accomplished d task... Wink DEK scene was powerful as I said...all had to shut der mouths and jalal's anger was at its peak so none had guts to defy him... Star even d ulemas had to shut their mouth... LOL maham's expressions thru out were of anger and dislike since she dint like him abolishing d tax and he was favoring hindus...jalal did face betrayal from his own ppl but he did get loyal ppl in d form of MS toddy etc... Big smile

Thank you Harshu di. Big smile

Sach mein...it's very rare to find such scenes in JA...AngryLOL

Yup...I remembered it suddenly while writing so mentioned it. EmbarrassedBig smile

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Originally posted by -AkDha.Lover-

Originally posted by harshu27

Originally posted by -AkDha.Lover-

Harshu di, Thanks for the update.Big smile


The episode was awesome today, with Jalal being the rock
star throughout.StarStarStar


It is said real Akbar also used to go out among the common
men to better understand their problems. This is one habit of Jalal I so love.


As Todarmal explained to him yesterday, he can't understand
the problems of the people he doesn't even know. The best way to understand the common people's grievances is to first experience what they go through everyday.

As Salim Chishti Baba had said, " Jo Shehenshah apni marzi se aam ban jaye, woh taareeq badalta hai..."Star

The AkDha flashback was a good one. I loved Jo's reply to Jalal's question about whether pilgrim tax is right or not. Her way of getting her point across was a very diplomatic one, and therefore, a very rare thing to see onscreen.StarHer answer was appropriate, since had she said that the pilgrim tax was unnecessary and an injustice, being a Hindu herself, that wold have been taken as a bias. But she nailed it by replying that it was none of her business and she was doing what she could. And then, in a masterstroke, she used reverse psychology by asking him to step in the tax givers place. She rocked it man!!!StarClapStar

Now, without a doubt, the 2nd half of the episode belonged to the Shehenshah Jalal... a ruler still remembered for his tolerant policies towards his subjects.Star

Everything was bang on in this scene. Jalal's every argument was to the point, his aura so authoritative, no one could dare defy him in the court!Star

How he shut the orthodox ones up was mind-blowing! Yes, true, if Hindus can pay a tax, why not the Muslims? This left them speechless, no doubt.

Considering his subjects equal, doing all he can for their welfare, going against the unjust social norms, these are only a few of the things that are going to make Jalal what he is today remembered as...Akbar.StarStarBig smile

Good, he gave strict punishment to all involved. What a jhatka it would have been for the poor soldier to know that it was Jalal himself watching him!LOLTo top Jalal's anger, he lied in front of him that he got some wrong news perhaps...AngryLOL

At last, I loved the way Jalal said, " Hum sabse zyada dhoka humari apni hi kaum ke logon ne diya hai..." That was a fitting reply to all stating that he was losing interes in his religion, and bringing Hindus to the court.StarMaham understood that she was included in the list too, though her face didn't change much.

It also so unfortunate for Jalal to have been betrayed by his own people. The pain of this betrayal reflects in his eyes, along with the pride associated with the fact that he hasn't done a mistake by keeping Hindus close to him.


welcum and lovely review as always... Big smile d epi was awsum and it was jalal rocking thru out... Star ya real Akbar did go as common man and chk on his subjects and its really interesting to see it onscreen...thnk god at least cvs did show us such scenes LOL salim chisti's dialog was perfect for jalal and it was true also... Clap thnx fr mentioning it here... Tongue d fb scene was good and ya jo was really awusm in making him ponder over whether d tax was right or wrong and indeed using reverse psychology she accomplished d task... Wink DEK scene was powerful as I said...all had to shut der mouths and jalal's anger was at its peak so none had guts to defy him... Star even d ulemas had to shut their mouth... LOL maham's expressions thru out were of anger and dislike since she dint like him abolishing d tax and he was favoring hindus...jalal did face betrayal from his own ppl but he did get loyal ppl in d form of MS toddy etc... Big smile


Thank you Harshu di.Big smile

Sach mein...it's very rare to find such scenes in JA...AngryLOL

Yup...I remembered it suddenly while writing so mentioned it.EmbarrassedBig smile

actually cvs could have easily focused on akdha's political reforms but dey chose to turn dis show into saas bahu types... Dead

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a wonderful review harshu,realy a gud episode..jalal s on the path to reach akbar,well written and directd..ful of rt/jalal epi..powr packd performance..treating of al the citizens without partiality in tat century s great..rt rocks..bt aftr ts v dnt hav any kind of political isues solvd by jalal eficiently..anyway njyd ur revw..

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Harshu di, Thanks for the update. Big smile

The episode was awesome today, with Jalal being the rock star throughout. StarStarStar

It is said real Akbar also used to go out among the common men to better understand their problems. This is one habit of Jalal I so love.

As Todarmal explained to him yesterday, he can't understand the problems of the people he doesn't even know. The best way to understand the common people's grievances is to first experience what they go through everyday. 

As Salim Chishti Baba had said, " Jo Shehenshah apni marzi se aam ban jaye, woh taareeq badalta hai..." Star

The AkDha flashback was a good one. I loved Jo's reply to Jalal's question about whether pilgrim tax is right or not. Her way of getting her point across was a very diplomatic one, and therefore, a very rare thing to see onscreen. Star Her answer was appropriate, since had she said that the pilgrim tax was unnecessary and an injustice, being a Hindu herself, that wold have been taken as a bias. But she nailed it by replying that it was none of her business and she was doing what she could. And then, in a masterstroke, she used reverse psychology by asking him to step in the tax givers place. She rocked it man!!! StarClapStar

Now, without a doubt, the 2nd half of the episode belonged to the Shehenshah Jalal... a ruler still remembered for his tolerant policies towards his subjects. Star

Everything was bang on in this scene. Jalal's every argument was to the point, his aura so authoritative, no one could dare defy him in the court! Star

How he shut the orthodox ones up was mind-blowing! Yes, true, if Hindus can pay a tax, why not the Muslims? This left them speechless, no doubt.

Considering his subjects equal, doing all he can for their welfare, going against the unjust social norms, these are only a few of the things that are going to make Jalal what he is today remembered as...Akbar. StarStarBig smile

Good, he gave strict punishment to all involved. What a jhatka it would have been for the poor soldier to know that it was Jalal himself watching him! LOL To top Jalal's anger, he lied in front of him that he got some wrong news perhaps...AngryLOL

At last, I loved the way Jalal said, " Hum sabse zyada dhoka humari apni hi kaum ke logon ne diya hai..." That was a fitting reply to all stating that he was losing interes in his religion, and bringing Hindus to the court. Star Maham understood that she was included in the list too, though her face didn't change much.

It also so unfortunate for Jalal to have been betrayed by his own people. The pain of this betrayal reflects in his eyes, along with the pride associated with the fact that he hasn't done a mistake by keeping Hindus close to him.

Thanks for a smashing review. It is admirable that despite exams you made time to give us your thoughts. Thanks. There were several points I liked in your review, the description of the reverse psychology that Jodha uses on Jalal, the imperial Jalal in court and the way he countered each arguments. His comments on dhokha reflected his pain.

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Thanks Harshu,

Today episode again we getting interesting +imp, in  many accepts, or i gone speechless after seen Whole episode,

Taxation abolishment  comes in Akbar doings best, work.

Jalal visits, Common man disguise, market, or get to know, croupation spread all over system, or as a king he failed it to know, system falut, or he surprised to see long chain behind this. Its not fully jalal mistake,...First he own not connects to Awam, cause of his nature, or  not he thinks he need this, but after finding his Heart, he start to think, comman man problems,

 Sure jodha connect him, With Awam, but sure he own want to work for Awam, So cause of TM, advice, jalal knows, WHAT is happening in his KINGDOM, ALERT jalal.

Love start to change him internally, first he became jallad to Jalal, then love change into, Jalal To  that King, Who thinks for Awam. Feelings connect him with, comman man problems, So Love now reaching him that ladder,...Where journey start to becoming Akbar, or After  Akbar the Great.

Sure jodha also  comes this travell, but jalal, own will power,learning, or his working style counts. He need that partner, who reconized his hidden qualites, support him, How he can do work best, or realise him his working strength,...or he short tempered, next we will see, Jodha, absorve his this weakness also.,  so he need side by side which love, which care, which have to do,... now way start to clearing. He feel mostely lonliness, or distreacts after means go low down,...But now we seeing jodha otherside reconizing, his weakness +qualites.

If qualities is our sure weakness is also our, this theory applies every-relation if both wants balancing otherwise one feel sad+broken.love care, xyz also counts

 

(one thing i notice, jalal personality, he needed to point out, then his BRAIN  start work,Millon  Doller Better, HE suddenely, checks, here is falut, here needed, improvement, here needed TIGHTNESS, (EX,here needed, teasing   )

 

so He is a Full power package of qualites, but needed to point out. So jodha, complete this

uncompeletness. Which he is missing .Both are good & learnful personalites. Both wants kingdom & personal realtionship, betterment. Both fights. FIGHTER,always  try to win  Result comes to ACC to situation.

 

Returning time, Jalal get to know, One more, Weakness of his kingdom, or people quarreling, +shouting,...All these which makes kingdom, powerful+peacful, Missing in Agra place. This is enough for jalal , because this will, Hit jalal heart +mind, as a king +as a Human,...or growth will happan both  means King or as a Human. Its Teerthkar Which have to pay, Hindu,s traveller,,,,,,,if they want to travell, Any Teerath

 

So seeing of life, start to change inner in jalal, first  his thought was,"i am king, or which i say thats right, or sure accept by others"

(But now thoughts changing, I King i have duties,  responsibiltes, i have to do work for people,  i have to connect with them, i have to give them peaceful life, because Only name is not enough I am King,;;;;;;;;;;;Your abilties, proves, you which type King, or that essential , if you have to RULE heart of Awam.

 

Today again Hit jalal Heart, tinching world, If not listened here, Hindu begum voice, Who will listen us.

(Actually jalal impact off many peoples,...Or he different nature, so he not seen life, This Way, but now he have Heart, feelings, sensitivity, so which hurts him, he analysis that, questions.)

 

1, When he talks Jodha painting, He wants she should present here, or he  will share his talk.

Because which he seen, jodha indirectely Noted this.or pointed these points.

 

scene was good. jalal talking  Jodha's painting,  ha ha

 

Here jodha, How extream level standing. she knows,  this taxation system is Wrong.

but she knows, she not say this point to jalal;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;because ques will rise on JALAL he favours his Queen;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;so she not touched this delicate point.

 

she voiced for Child marriage, She, introduce, jalal to Kingdom people. Abolished  Slavery ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;but this ques she not touched.

 

But she can help those people, How much she can do, or she DID, through her own income;

 

This point shows, two things;

 

1;;Queen;s income freedom, she can spend, own income, own desires.

 

2;;jodha kindness nature.

 

Asking jalal, jodha, not hides this talk, but indirectely cleares, HERE  IS A FALUT in this system.

 

So jodha wants,  HER  husband Repauation will be increased in KINGDOM. But point realted

to her Community,  so she not puts in front of Jalal. But by chance  when it comes, she puts

delicately.& leaves decesion to Jalal.

 

COIN, scene, was touchi. How a WOmen  BIND her home little things. & little creations.

jalal realize,  why he not understand what jodha wants from me;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

 

i impressed this stenance, Because when  REALTIONSHIP, extreame ,  Siealance, speaks.

&  Akdha realtionship going there. Earring scene was also good. Ha ha.

 

DEK, scene most impressive scene today,

 

A, Liked jalal took quickely action,...These days Jalal working speed of working increasing,

Sure Jodha sents in Agra, Apples,...That effect Ha ha

 

B, Good guy listening hindu, Persons problems.

 

C Going to start Jalal sir class, Maham expression,...sure thinking, Why jalal snatched from her powers,;;;;;;;;;;;otherwise sure she speaks.

 

D  Jalal listenig Harsh truth of his kingdom people, which they suffering?

 

F, TM points weakness, of Kingdom, Jalal listens, & trusts, & result, came best.

 

Here TM acchieved  jalal trust again , So listening is FIRST step, & trust automattically comes after. (TM gained both).

 

Main point Teerth KAR,;

 

its also tough for AKBAR removing  this, but  HE tackled this situation, Gracefully.

& Delicately.

He ans's everyques, of Ulama;s  to the point;;;;;;;;;;;;;; Hazzir jawab Akbar

 

i also read this in HIS( IN  16 CEN, when (Hindues get relif of this taxation system, all india united with one FORM.)

 

so how was  He great, how his decesion was confirmed, . He was also a fearless King.

 

How he was BROAD. He not stops own small & conservative , thoughts & things.  

but   in 21 cen not easy this kind of broadness, 16 cen he fought against this.  

 

 

His punishment shows, to culprit, NOW atertness will be increased, in KINGDOM.& Honesty will occopy, her OWN space.

 

 

Today, i was counting, How many memberes, were Present, today JALAL SIR CLASS.

Attendence was Full.       . Surprise PACKAGE, MAHAM was sileant, First time,  I FEEL, happy, when a power of person snatches, How, HER or HIM statues, down, she was in Anger JONE, but, keeping, quiteness is essential.    ,  (BOLTI BANDD OF MAHAM   )

 

A, Liked jalal took quickely action,...These days Jalal working speed of working increasing,

Sure Jodha sents in Agra, Apples,...That effect Ha ha

 

B, Good guy listening hindu, Persons problems.

 

C Going to start Jalal sir class, Maham expression,...sure thinking, Why jalal snatched from her powers,;;;;;;;;;;;otherwise sure she speaks.

 

D Jalal listenig Harsh truth of his kingdom people, which they suffering?

 

F, TM points weakness, of Kingdom, Jalal listens, & trusts, & result, came best.

 

Here TM acchieved  jalal trust again , So listening is FIRST step, & trust automattically comes after. (TM gained both).

 

Main point Teerth KAR,;

 

its also tough for AKbarremoving  this, but  HE tackled this situation, Gracefully& Delicately.

He ans's everyques, of Ulameas to the , TO the point;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Haazir jawab akbar (Jalal)

 

i also read this in HIS( IN  16 CEN, when (Hindues get relif of this taxation system, all india united with one FORM.)

 

so how was  He great, how his decesion was confirmed, . He was also a fearless King.

 

How he was Broad. He not stops own small & conservative , thoughts & things.  

but   in 21 cen not easy this kind of broadness, 16 cen he fought against this.  

 

His punishment shows, to culprit, NOW atertness will be increased, in KINGDOM.& Honesty will occopy, her OWN space.

  

Today, i was counting, How many memberes, were Present, today JALAL SIR CLASS.

Attendence was Full.       . Surprise PACKAGE, MAHAM was sileant, First time,  I FEEL, happy, when a power of person snatches, How, HER or HIM statues, down, she was in Anger JONE, but, keeping, quiteness is essential.    ,  (BOLTI BANDD OF MAHAM   )

 

Ruk face also was seeingable,...She maybee brakes things her Hozara, But in DEK, sitting sielant jone sure afraiding,...Sielance is better for her, otherwise, she can come punishment race. Ha ha.

 

So Jalal get angey in Dek,  or reason valid, this  tight dose need, for cheaters.


Ak getting clue, jalal going Hard these days, so his  +cheaters, stars, now going to not fine.

 

Fully impactful scene. Or jalal missing our jodha.

 

 

 

tu kaha
tu kaha, ye bata, is nashili raat me
maane na mera dil diwana
haay re maane na mera dil diwana
tu kaha, ye bata, is nashili raat me
maane na mera dil diwana
haay re haay maane na mera dil diwana

he bada natkhat hai sama
bada natkhat hai sama, har nazara hai jawan
chha gaya charo taraf, meri aaho ka dhuwa
dil mera, meri jaa na jaana, tu kaha
tu kaha, ye bata, is nashili raat me
maane na mera dil diwana
haay maane na mera dil diwana

o o aayi jab thandi hawa
aayi jab thandi hawa, maine pucha jo pata
vo bhi katraate gayi, aur bechain kiya
pyar se tu mujhe de sada, tu kaha
tu kaha, ye bata, is nashili raat me
maane na mera dil diwana
haay re haay maane na mera dil diwana

he chand taaro ne suna
chand taaro ne suna, in baharo ne suna
dard ka raag mera, rahguzaaro ne suna
tu bhi sun jaaneman aa bhi ja, tu kaha
tu kaha, ye bata, is nashili raat me
maane na mera dil diwana  

haay maane na mera dil diwana  

 


As expected, when the episode is good your review is even better.
1 The difference between Jalal and Maham, Ruqs is that when he realizes his mistakes he works to do better. He saw the suffering of the people and so he enacted new laws to help them.
2 As you noted Jodha plays an important role in helping him focus his efforts. She used reverse psychology to make him understand that the Pilgrim tax was unjust.
3 The plight of Maham was interesting to watch. She really was struck dumb by Jalal's actions.
4 Jalal angry was also fun to watch, Rajat was superb here.

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skanda12 145 21635 05 March 2014 at 1:09pm by baubles
Jalal Jalal Jalal.....uffff kya karte ho tum

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Amor. 15 5816 25 December 2013 at 3:27am by Amor.
Jalal, Jalal, Jalal all the way yesterday!

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