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Bhoo!! How can HE trust woman when most women in show are...

shahsb_26 IF-Sizzlerz

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Posted: 15 April 2016 at 6:47am | IP Logged
First of all!!

Bhoo!!! Anyone remembers me??? I have been stalking forums through my phone like seriously daily, but never got in to log in..!! Wanted to make topic long long back, but anyways here... I make it today...

So, let's count prominent women in the show!!

1. Suman
2. Mami Ji
3. Kamini - or whatever is her name - Shravan's chachi
4. Vendy

Side Women
1. Rachna Masi
2. Preeti (Sister of Suman)
3. Preeto (Suman's employee)


7 Women, 4 prominent , 3 sideys.

But how many of them are seriously good at heart ???

Shravn being shrewd lawyer knows all of them, and knows selfish side of his chachi and bhabhi as well, and Suman as well, but has some bitter memories linked to her,

Now I am wondering, how can we expect him to trust women? Wouldn't any sensible person have same perception like Shravan specially when they are surrounded by such women all the time?

Your take on "Women" of the show. Let's see out of 4 prominent- only Suman is good
Sideys both are good, except for lost soul Rachna massi!

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Posted: 15 April 2016 at 6:55am | IP Logged
not to forget his mum, bearing in mind he only knows his dad's side of story which is again to do with trust in women

Edited by Ms.S.K. - 15 April 2016 at 6:56am

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Posted: 15 April 2016 at 6:57am | IP Logged
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Million dollar question...ShockedCry

Shraman is going to break up soon...agar sach me josh me ake shravan ne hosh kho diyey tooCry

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Posted: 15 April 2016 at 7:00am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Ms.S.K.

not to forget his mum, bearing in mind he only knows his dad's side of story which is again to do with trust in women

Yes!!!! So basically he has only been building up negative stereotype against women! Including Urvashi...

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Posted: 15 April 2016 at 7:01am | IP Logged
Originally posted by mannu100

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Million dollar question...ShockedCry

Shraman is going to break up soon...agar sach me josh me ake shravan ne hosh kho diyey tooCry

He has emerged strong after being broken down!!
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A.Hajnal IF-Dazzler

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Posted: 15 April 2016 at 9:20pm | IP Logged
I will have not replied. But couldn't help myself after seeing how many 'women' are agreeing with you. I mean, really? Wow, is that how you see them? Not being a feminist and all, but really, is that how you see these women? 

SO disappointed to know such thoughts still are there and that too are coming from 'women'...Clap

Nothing angers me the most than women themselves blindly degrading women. And that too just to JUSTIFY action taken by some MCP.

So, Postmortem kar liya show's women ka? Good. Men ka kiya? Never even thought about them, did you? 

First of all, let's start with saying that HUMAN beings are not black and white, human are more complex than that, they come in all shades and colors. So, let's start thinking like mature people and think us as human and not divide us all in: men and women. There are cruel men as there are cruel women. Their gender isn't what justifies their actions or behavior. So, please, no woman-hater or men-hater is justified in their blind hatred if their one or some past experiences with the opposite gender has gone wrong.

Any SANE or as you say 'sensible' person doesn't make that the base to punish or judge every opposite gender with the same blind prejudice...

I HOPE that is clear...

And please, let's not make Sharvan a typical women-hater...He is wounded, no doubt...Has trust issues, Yes, he has. But he isn't a women-hater...There is so much more to his character than just that, so let's not confuse him with some idiot blind hater.
And btw, if he is sharp and a 'shrewd' lawyer, then he HAS to be not a typical women-hater. Because that job demands a cunning and sharp brain, and people with that kind of brain don't/can't act as stupid brainless haters.  

So, please, let's not compare him to the rest of typical women-hater male protagonist. I am so sick and tired of the same things being shown again and again, done again and again...I mean, come on, at least now writers and all of us should move on from typical Ekta and Gul Khan's MCPs...AND DO NOT JUSTIFY their cruel and inhumane actions taken in the blind hatred for women because they had a bad experience in the past. < That is not how a sensible and sane person acts. Man or woman, doesn't matter.

Coming back to Sharvan, he is angry at Suman for what she has done and what not, but that doesn't mean he has stopped caring for her or has stopped using his sharp brain just because she has wronged him. His wounds are being healed ever since they have started to interact, esp from after the reunion party...Because he knows he has taken it way too far and done what only stupid teenager will do and not what a mature grown up man will act like...

And now, everything has taken a back seat till the case doesn't get over. Because he, as much as he is angry at her and all, can't see her hurt and in distress. He now knows she is more mature now then she was 10 years back and is sorry for her past actions.

So, has he moved on and forgiven her? Maybe yes, maybe no...Time will tell. But for sure you can't think of his trust issues as his hatred for women. And what he did with Urveshi was simply him acting on the bases of his trust issues, and not because he hates women.

And NOW, about the women of the show, what is wrong with them, I didn't understand you point?

His mother, I can understand. Chachi, too. But what is so wrong with the others? Shocked 

Vandy is a bit dumb(?) and is very easily influenced but that is how many people are. (And with 'people' I mean men and women both.) I mean, I don't think there is any difference between her and Mama ji. Who is a MAN, btw...While Vandy is more visible, Mamaji is a hidden one. That man is more confused than Vandy herself. As at least she is more loyal to her mother-in-law and takes her side than Mama ji does when it comes to his father or even Suman...Vandy blindly follows Chachi and Mamaji does that same with his wife, just with a lil bit of hesitation sometimes, I will give him that. But that's it.

And about Mami ji, today itself proves that she has her own reasons why she behaves that way she does...Does that makes it her actions wrong? Yes. But does that makes a person with barin think all women are the same?  NO. She has her own wishes and dreams and wants a better life for her kids, is she wrong? Is she any diffrent than any man out there? No. Are her ways wrong, yes...But then again, her being woman has nothing to do with her actions. 

Same thing goes to Masi. But does the 'men' stop them, or point out their selfish actions? No they don't. Ever thought about that? When Masi comes and takes all that money from Suman, does her husband stops her? No, he doesn't. Has he even have a job? Or his own house? No, he doesn't. That MAN is how one should think all the men are? No, right. SO what is the point is making all the women character evil when you don't even give a thought to the men of the show? I bet, no on has even given that a thought. 

One should go JUSTIFYING actions taken of the bases of stupid reason, just for the sake of it when that person not in any position to understand what is standing in the comparison of it.

And about Preeto, what the hell? what is wrong with her? I love her. She beat the men who tried to touch Suman, she fights for her rights and stands tall for herself and she is a hard worker. I mean, what is your issue with her? Shocked I am a fan of her, esp after looking at the way she beat the men AND came close to Sharvan to tell him that 'man' like him are no better if they stand and watch the tamasha...I know he wasn't doing that but still, the girl is so damn right in pointing out the wrongs as the wrongs. I felt so proud of her and am a huge fan of hers. She and Pushkar are my fav supporting characters...And Both are great friends for ShraMan too...Embarrassed

Preeti doesn't get enough screen for us to say anything about her, but so far, she doesn't have some magor flaw we can point out. She is just a girl with no worry and is lazy (?)...

But have you give a thought to the actions of Varun? No, right? What kind of 'man' he is? And what about Khosla? Poor naive Sharvan, there are many chances for him to start hating men too if we give the men a thought. Ouch

Now that we are done with the Postmortem of women, shall we even give a thought to the men of the show too? Or we are only going to JUSTIFY the actions of blind, senseless and reasonless hatred thinking it's all okay? 

I know I am debating way too strongly on this point, but really I am sick and tried of blind hatred being justified. I had enough of that blind lover of male protagonists which finds ways and reasons to justify their acts. Because when things are wrong, they are wrong, when a person is bad, they are bad. Gender has NOTHING to do with it.

Not that, that ^ is how I think Sharvan is going to or should react. Apart from his trust issues, I don't think there should be anything wrong with for him/them. And that is okay, bececause that is given as per his past. But again, trust issues are hardly anything like blind hatred...Trust can be builded while blind hatred can't be helped...

Edited by A.Hajnal - 15 April 2016 at 9:29pm

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