Siya Ke Ram


Siya Ke Ram
Siya Ke Ram

Going against nature is bringing destruction-Nidra Devi

shruthiravi IF-Sizzlerz

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Posted: 14 April 2016 at 9:24am | IP Logged
What a beautiful line and so much truth in depth. BG says concentrate on action not on results. Laxman want to protect his bhaiya and bhabi and he thought if he sacrifice sleep he can do that. So his concentration was not the present but the entire 14 years by sacrificing sleep he will give protection. 
Was he able to do. Answer is big no. Prakriti showed him the failure of going against her. He couldnt protect his bhabi. Sita apaharan happened. War in Lanka happened which was destruction. Agnipareeksha happened and again the rest of life his bhaiyya led a lonely life without his bhabi. 

Seva can be done without going against Prakriti. Hanuman has done it. He was inline with Prakriti's rule. He understood her, and he understood sanskriti. That's why Hanuman says society can seperate Ram and Siya and even Ram can send away Siya, but for Hanuman it is always Siya Ram. They cannot be seperated in his heart. He is the one who has completely understood the inter play of prakriti and sanskriti. And that's why he is kept as the best example of seva bhav. His bhakti in seva bhav is the one which is said to be worth following if you want to serve God as a sevak. 

SKR is beautifully showing the results of going against Prakriti. In every case how Prakriti shows Sanskriti its place. 

Edited by shruthiravi - 29 April 2016 at 2:46am

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Posted: 14 April 2016 at 10:00am | IP Logged
Shruti, Lakshman 's sacrifice and samarpan was total. He balanced nature by having Urmila sleep for his share. This combined seva by the husband and wife is an example of what couples with one thought of serving God can acheive. They make the impossible, possible.
The act of going against nature was not by Lakshman but was initiated by Jaya Vijaya in vaikuntha when they went against the nature of being non discriminatory and stopped the sanat Kumars considering them to be kids. This act against what was the nature of those in Vaikuntha was what led to the destruction.

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sumedha93 Senior Member

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Posted: 14 April 2016 at 10:24am | IP Logged
Had Lakshman slept like normal people then too Siya Ram would have met the same fate. They descended earth for a certain purpose and that would have taken place regardless of anything. 

However there is one lesson to be learned, Lakshman did everything a man can do to protect his brother and sister in law. He went to the extreme and no one can argue that he left any stone unturned to ensure their happiness and well being yet they met a not so happy ending. Sita was kidnapped, questions were raised on her chastity and eventually Ram and Sita were separated. This shows that no matter how much a man tries to protect his loved ones after a point he has to resign to fate. All of this happened despite Lakshman doing his best to ensure their safety. 

There is famous saying 'Hoyi wohi jo Ram rachi rakha' - whatever Ram (God) has designed that only will take place. 

Edited by sumedha93 - 14 April 2016 at 10:39am

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jhema IF-Sizzlerz

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Posted: 14 April 2016 at 10:43am | IP Logged
nice post shruthi.. 
When nidra  devi asking about a person to sleep instead of him , he choose urmila only not his mother or someone else , in the hope that she will accept it. Urmila to accept it  happily  to support her husband's dedication towards his brother and bhabhi 
This hope and trust must be needed in the relationships which is missing nowadays.

SKR cvs giving nice messages thru dialogues in various episodes Clap

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Ankita.11 Senior Member

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Posted: 14 April 2016 at 10:48am | IP Logged
I had this gut feeling that you would be writing about this line only and well it came trueSmile
Lakshman is a person who can go to any extent to serve his bhaiya and bhabhi..that includes killing people,going against nature but hanuman as you pointed,would serve them following the rules ...
But still I feel what is important is the intention and both were equal in that respect

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shruthiravi IF-Sizzlerz

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Posted: 14 April 2016 at 11:02am | IP Logged
See I have never intended to question Lakshman's samarpan. What I told was in his decision to not sleep lay the conviction that he can protect his bhaiya and bhabi. 
@justlikethat yes Urmila compensated. But even that is against nature. Yes they were together supportive of each other as a couple. One understanding the other. But then it never achieved what was intended was my take
@hema if you look from a hus-wife relation perspective that was a beauty. I am happy it is Ramayana else Urmila would have looked confused and will be thinking Mata Sumitra ka kya hoga. Mein achi bahu kaise banugi LOLLOLLOL( Hope you get the point Wink)
@sumedha when we say everything in our power does that mean going against natural law. We circumvent the natural law the way we want to get the results we desire. When I was watching star MB there was a beautiful scene between Shakuni and Krishna. Playing of dice. Where Shakuni decides the number he wants and Krishna deciding when to throw dice. Doesnt matter what the number is. That when is the key. Time. Present and only present matters there. I have watched it "n" times to absorb it. To understand it. Most beautiful visual representation of Karmayana karya varyasthe maa phaleshu kadachana. Lakshman has looked at the numbers now and not whether the dice is thrown at the right time. 

@antika I am eagerly waiting for Ram-Hanuman. My heart says certain answers I am searching I will get in that milan. 

Edited by shruthiravi - 14 April 2016 at 11:04am

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Bhargavii Goldie

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Posted: 14 April 2016 at 11:21am | IP Logged
If sita would not have forced lakshman to leave then sita kidnapping ravan would not have occured. For 13 years lakshman served ram and sita day and night. Because they were in van dont know how and when a trouble would come, so he was ready to face the problem first and giveup his life at any moment, hanuman is shiv aansh and at younger age he received all powers from thri murthis and in ramayan each and every sacrifice and devotion towards ram was different but wat every they do was to shower respect care otheir beloved  ram. 

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vipraja26 Goldie

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Posted: 14 April 2016 at 11:22am | IP Logged
As pointed by you ( Shruti), what a truthful statement !
So very apt for these days when the human race is just doing the same and inviting the nature's fury .

A very nice bonding between  Lakshman and Urmila again for a selfless cause ! Both of them contributing their share to the greater cause of Ravan vadh !
They portray an ideal couple with their selfless sacrifice but with a strong love and faith in one another .it was good to see a  emotional Lakshman today  especially after their meet at Chitrakoot .

Though all his sacrifice could not stop the unstoppable Apaharan  , it was not his fault !
Ravan would one way or the other succeeded as he did equip himself of all the Mayaavi Shakthi earlier . 

Another point that was earlier discussed by you Shruti , Kaikeyi 's role ! Well seems to have started to show up .
Indeed it was nice to note the way Mandavi  compliments Lakshman for his determined Seva bhav !
Beautiful episode !
All the actors were very good  . 

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