DOOD KA KARZ PADHA MEHANGA EPISODE-228 - Page 4

Posted: 8 years ago
Originally posted by myviewprem


This episode makes us and Akbar whether truly Maham loved Akbar
Initially yes she may have loved him. But a son is a son and another son is never your son even if you say he is son. That is truth of life no matter what. Yashoda maiyas are too few in world.

Only thing is not everyone acts like a Yashoda maiya and then suddenly turns evil one day. Then that will be a shock for the son thats happened to jalal.

With maham she initially loved akbar was ready to protect him at any cost but as her own son became big a thought came in her mind why should akbar not related to her by blood only milk become a emperor why should not my son adham get equal power? After all blood is thicker than any milk. She may have started to openly show that for her adham and jalal are one only sons and not tell adham to think too big as he cannot become emperor. Hence adham started thinking he can also become an emperor an king. A child will not get such ideas on his own it gets implanted slowly in mind by near and dear ones.

Maham started enjoying her power as wazir e aliya the next promotion is malika e aliya the empress post that was her real target post. To become that adham should become king by hook or crook. Its maham who put in adham head that anyone getting close to akbar other than her and adham are dangerous. So adham kill peer muhammad first than atagah or anyone coming in his and his mom way to power of their dream of getting power. So i blame adham less he was just 20 years old when he killed atagah its maham who instigatede him so much that he went on killing spree. Any wrong she did she potrayed as if she is not wrong at all its atagah akbar etc wrong never her. Adham believed it and went on killing spree and lost his life.

Jodha also tragetted only because maham felt she is getting too close to akbar like once ruqiah had complained of maham she made ruq humiliate in front of durbar by akbar for zaheer death same thing she did thru sujamal entry in harem to jodha



hiii prem m happy to read ur Comment on my thread its rarely u comment and u have given a perfect review on y adham cant b totally blamed as its obvious his mother had influenced him of getting power since jalal was d emperor and she had a strong hold on him...and if mother only can have bad influence on her child then d child is not to b blamed...and also loved ur view where u have given d xact diff btw d biological and foster mother...agree completely...indeed blood is thicker than d milk...no doubt... πŸ˜ƒ
Posted: 8 years ago
Originally posted by cute.manasi


<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">hey harshu di , thanx for pm...😳</font>
<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">again solid review by all...πŸ‘πŸ‘</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">i missed it today & yesterday , but hv watched it few days back on youtube</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">well phenomenol episode it was with some fine performances by <font color="#ff0000">RT </font>,<font color="#ff0000"> Ashwiniji</font>, lavina & manisha...⭐️⭐️⭐️</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">finally jalal has discovered this harsh truth of his life , that woman whom he considered his badi ammi was nothing but backstabber ...😑</font>
<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">he is shattered , devastated , shocked , dazed by this revelation , unfortunately it was his bad fate . till yesterday he was ready to raise his sword on his atalik atagah sahab for this lady , whom he loved unconditionally , trusted her more than anyone , always kept her on high pedestal but she , always exploited him for her ambitions . he was in grief to know that his badi ammi is the cause of his biggest pain & many more such pains...😭</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">& Maham Anga , maybe she had loved him , cherished him , yet was never a well wisher in true sense , ruqs miscarriage was big example where to stop ruqs from gaining excessive power & audha , she stooped down to this level . though part of her was unhappy of her act but even that guilt was short lived , settling scores with ruqs & bringing end to her becoming MUZ dreams satisfied MA much more than her concern for jalal his feelings , his dreams , his loss , his pain ...😑</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">For her , adham was always her first priority , he & her aspirations mattered her most & for this if she has to do some toying with jalal's feelings then be it , but this time instigating jalal against jodha was last straw , ultimately her true colors were revealed to jalal .Thus , she lost her jalal , her foster son who loved , respected & honoured her much much more than her own son , because Now he is only an emperor for her & she only a wazir e aliya to him , nothing more than that ...😳</font>





thnx and wlecum dear... 😳 ya we got to see wonderful performances by LT RT and ashwini... ⭐️ seriously finally jalal got to knw d truth behind maham's so called love for him... in fact she never loved him and when she saw even ruku was going to gain more power dn he and may use it against her so she brought d MC of ruku where she could never b mother again and jalal was given pain as he couldn't b a father... a mother will never like to see her child in pain but here maham proved to b a foster mother and so she gave jalal so much pain just to keep her power intact and take revenges as and wen needed... 🀒 ya now jalal ahs broken all d ties so she will b only his wazir and he will b an emperor for her not more than that... πŸ˜‰
Posted: 8 years ago
Dear Diksha,
This is the first time I am addressing you. I did not get a chance to read your comments during the original telecast of the serial as I joined the forum much later.
I like the way you have analysed the episodes.You have beautifully elucidated the state of Jalal's mind in your passage marked @@bold in green.πŸ‘ I like it.
Maham Anga ,using  her cheap tactics by bringing Benazir to lure Jalal and later by making use of Sujamal's entry to drive a wedge between Jalal and Jodha, has surely proved that her standard is worse even than  a dhai's level and is not of a person worthy of being called a "Ma" of the Emperor of the Hindustan. 
And your explanation about  the reason for Jalal's change of attitude towards HB, is really true.πŸ‘ 
A very nice take of the episode.

Saraswathi Aunty.




Originally posted by sweet_diksha


my net is giving problems, so can't write anything new... coz while writing if my net goes, then I will loose it completely..still here is a special take on MA-Jalal relationship, I wrote 2 yrs back

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A true mother will never ask for the price of her milk , she fed to her child...this is the real difference btw a true mother and a mother substitute... a true mother not necessarily be a woman who gives birth to a child, but for a true mother , true or foster,  that kid is her universe... and in that mother - child relationship, all the time mother is always only giving and her child mostly is always taking... Coz the biggest thing she gets from that child is pure happiness that is even bigger than heaven... And that happiness is always priceless...

There is always a thin line btw real and foster... not all can be careful of not crossing that line... and Maham just forgot this... and the end result was that she lost that kid who was always her trump card, coz till this time she was his biggest weakness, whom he trusted more than himself...

For a true mother, her child's happiness becomes her happiness... that child's needs become her priorities more than her own needs... she feels more proud when he is successful...

but then what if all her care and support, her upbringing, which has become life of that child , all this suddenly is put in front of him with a price tag... and what price is it... he has to choose btw the woman who pretends to be his mother and his life...Jalal faced this situation which made him make his decision , he never would have wished to take in his whole life... and then he chose his life...

Like I said at the start, a mom will never put a price to her milk... while MA's words were cutting him to pieces, he understood this perfectly well... and so he gave her what she wanted , her audha, and he kept for him what he wanted, the love of his life, his Jodha... after witnessing the worst truth of his life in a disgusting display from the one whom he trusted, loved most, making the decision was just a formality for him... and he completed it... he cut all her ties with her... from the precious position of being his Badi Ammi, Maham is now reduced to being just a minister, whose only duty now is limited to give him the advice... the power of decision making is taken off from her hand , the very moment, he cut her from him, forever... only it's official declaration in front of the world is yet to be done... but soon he will do that also...

Now the question remains why she behaved in such a manner... he had so many wives, he even had his own real mother, he has BEK like Ruku, who claim to rule over his brain... but MA always knew the truth behind it... coz even Ruku's brain is ruled by MA herself... so Jalal had been her puppet (sorry for the word), who gave her all powers to rule as per her wish , without any question raised, believing her blindly...

@@But all this changed in just one night... a princess of a small state, that too from different religion came to his life and just one sight of her, and she became his biggest obsession... and that was the moment , when Jalal came out of MA's spell... for the first time he took the decision , which was not taken with brain, and so nobody was involved in that, except himself...coz everybody wanted to rule his brain, and so nobody noticed he always possessed a heart too... That heart always craved to be noticed , if not from others , but alteast from him... and that princess made him take a notice of his heart... his decision was made there, and naturally it was in that princess's favour... Jalal decided to marry Jodha, without even consulting any other person in his life...

That time if he has talked to MA or Ruku before taking the decision, Jo would never have been able to rule his heart... but the fact was that he informed them HIS DECISION TO MARRY JO, like he was telling some third party... and MA, being sharp as she is, understand that very moment , that her days r near to over... coz once found it's place, his heart started to demand it's rights, and Jalal too started to acknowledge it with fondness..clearly MA saw Jo as her enemy, who will rule Jalal's heart, and so naturally then on his brain, coz this new found heart of him will always show it's true power which will be much greater than brain...

It happened... how much he tried to hate her, the qualities in Jo made him fall for her, made him change his priorities btw his heart and his brain... and he only found that the decisions he took with his heart , make him come out as a winner, and as a better king in front of the world... the same world that hated him all the time, started loving him back... And this brought a natural change in him... even though, he was still close to MA, still trusted her more than himself, still valued her more even though he was aware of her misdeeds, slowly he started to show his independence... 

@@Maham saw her importance and powers in/on his life slipping with every step he was taking towards Jo... and more than that , after Jo's entry in his life, he started acknowledging his own mother , more than before, coz Jo valued her most... Jalal started getting closer to Hameeda Bano... and HB already being Marium Makhani, always held certain powers, that even had the power to change even shehenshah's decision... only she has never used it... but with Jo getting close to both HB and Jalal, the power center of Mughal sultanat started to change it's place... from BK and MA it shifted to Jalal and HB... in his absence, all decisions were done with HB's consent, not MA's... and HB even started to question MA...

Right from his decision to marry Jo, MA started to understand that her influence was slipping... and so she plotted against Jo, against Jalal... she used all types of methods to separate them, only to find everything backfired...and finally she lost it... Jalal got to hear few hometruths from the very person, whom he always trusted blindly...the truths abt how he was always backstabbed from the ones he so much trusted... that has left him broken... but then this will only increase his desire to hold on to the life which will be full of love ,trust, support and loyalty... the life with Jodha... The life he chose, while cutting MA from his private space...

The power for which she craved all her life, the power she hold proudly till date in her hands, showing the world that she uses the Shehenshah as puppet as per her wishes, is now out of her reach, coz he is nomore HER BELOVED DUTIFUL SON... after playing all the time with his life, just one game from him, and she has lost her ground... what remains now is to see if she accepts this as inevitable or strikes back to regain those power... only time will tells if from here she wins or loses completely...

Edited by karkuzhali - 8 years ago
Posted: 8 years ago
 Thank you Harshu for your lovely analysis of the key episodes.
You have as usual highlighted the narration punctuated with your emotions and emoticons. 
As for your remark about Hamida Banu's behaviour, I do not think that she is indifferent towards him. In fact she sends Salima Begum to console him. And later when he was about to leave for the DEK to pass a verdict, she advises him to consider about  all the good things that MA had done to him and decide about the judgement.
And my Nursery rhyme for your tireless effort:

Along the lines of,

"Pat a Cake, Pat a cake Baker's Man
Bake me a cake as fast as you can
Pat it and shape it and mark it with "B"
And bake it in the oven for Baby and me."

Do the analysis, do the analysis, dear Harshu
Do the analysis regularly as you do
Write it and mark it with punches and emoticons
And give it to us with appropriate title  thereupon!

Saraswathi Aunty.

Originally posted by harshu27


Hiii all d epi was good 2dy we had another awsum performance seen by rt and ashwini... ⭐️ jalal all totally shattered since his own badi ammi had betrayed him and then we had ruks to facing d wrath of jalal as he comes to know that she too was involved in d plan only thing she wasn't knowing about suja in disguise of KS...

jalal who is heartbroken completely declares to maham that she had lost her most precious thing in her life and that was her son... πŸ˜• he tells her that he had always given her 1st preference even before d god he preferred her... he adds that it wasn't her mistake as his fate only was bad as 1st he lost his father then BK and now his badi ammi... 😭 he adds that till now he was under d impression that she had saved his life as she loved him but no she had her selfish motives behind it... πŸ˜• she wanted to see him as a most powerful and great emperor but no she wanted to climb d stairs using his shoulder and become powerful wazir πŸ˜• he tells her how a mother is as mothers r never selfish and they sacrifice themselves to take care of their child... πŸ˜› a mother loves her child dearly and not feel jealous at his achievements... he finally clears d air that MA had proved that thou he had drunk her milk but she never turned out to b his mother as she had no motherly qualities in her... and also adds that she proved of being a mere dai and so he leaves in a heart broken state and maham is all shocked and tries to absorb what jalal told her now and she recalls how she had saved his life from d cannon balls and etc...and breaks down saying that now jalal was no more her child...πŸ€“

ruksar and other begums get d news as it spreads like fire in d jungle about maham creating a rift btw joja and she already knowing about suja in disguise as KS... πŸ˜•

HB gets to know from SB about maham's betrayal... and she too gets shocked... πŸ˜• she tells how could maham do this as after knowing that jalal had started loving jo... πŸ˜• she tells SB to handle this matter rather to console jalal as he was now totally broken as his so called badi ammi had backstabbed him... πŸ˜• as SB was d wise and understanding begum amongst all his begums... πŸ˜ƒ I really wonder this HB is totally insensitive towards her son she can only speak but when he really needs her she is miles far away from him really feel bad for him all useless ppl r surrounded around him...

jallu near tarazu and ruks comes to him... πŸ˜• he tells her that he had broken all d relations with maham and he would no more address her as badi ammi ruks is all shocked... πŸ˜• he tells her that right from childhood he was used to sharing all his things with her he had always given her more imp than anyone... he adds that thou there was no blood relation btw them and it was milk relation but d milk relation was much stronger than d blood and she had broken this v relation... he adds that y she had created rift btw jo and him and what was jo's mistake that maham had to create a prob fro her...jo's position was diff maham was at her position both had diff imp in his life so what was so danger lingering on her that she had to snatch his love and happiness from him... he adds that he wants this to b a night mare so that morning he gets up and everything vanishes when he opens his eyes as he was totally broken and couldn't handle this... 😭

ruks is all teary to see him broken...πŸ€“ ruks leans on his shoulder and with hesitation confesses that how she was aware of that KS being a Rajput but wasn't aware of him being suja πŸ˜• jallu is all shocked and furious...he just jerks her and she tries to defend herself πŸ€“ by telling that maham never told her that KS was suja but she had only told her that she wanted to catch that Rajput red handed and so she had helped her...πŸ€“

jallu all furious and just pushes her and she lands up on d tarazu😈 she begs to him by falling on his feet asking for forgiveness...πŸ€“she confesses that she was jealous of jo and that was which every woman had that feeling for another woman but she never intended to hurt him πŸ€“

he just jerks her and tries to speak but SB comes and he welcomes her saying how his own ppl were betraying him... he doesn't need enemies as his own ppl were d enemies for him... he adds that he had fought lots of war and got lots of injuries but when his own ppl had given him injuries on his heart he had no strength to handle them... 😭 he speak or rather speaks in a pleading manner rather all his frustrations were out while telling SB to console him so that his broken heart get peace... she tells him that he shouldn't act like this as he was an emperor... he gets more wild and yells that y d emperor doesn't have emotions? he too feels pain and has emotions...

SB tries to console him advices him by asking him his real name and when he tell her his name she tells him that he was an emperor so his awam considered him as shadow of god and so he should keep his emotions under control thou it was too much ask but then being an emperor that's what d limitations come while becoming an emperor... and he tells that even jo would have told him d same thing had she been here... πŸ˜ƒ he tells y jo wasn't here... but SB assures him that jo was angry and when her anger is cooled down she would defo return back to her hubby to share his pain...but till then he should become strong and act wisely... πŸ˜›

he feels at peace and thank her for consoling him... 😳 and tells that now he would pass d verdict on maham in DEK d next day as emperor jalal and not only jalal ...😈😎and walks off while ruks all tensed asks SB what punishment jalu would give πŸ˜• but SB tells her that she has no idea but she can only tell that this whole night would pass like a big punishment for jallu...and leaves... πŸ˜• and ruku is all confused and worried... πŸ˜•

SB was awsum she proved that she was indeed d wisest among all his begums... πŸ˜‰ her calmness while consoling him also her matured advice gave him peace at heart and also d motivation to take d decision on maham... πŸ˜› loved her 2dy... πŸ˜ƒ

adham comes to meet MA and is shocked to see her hojra all in a mess and sees her sitting in a corner of d room and totally broken πŸ˜• he shakes her and asks her what had happened...? πŸ˜• she just blabbers of how everything will b fine and starts crying she tells him how jalal had broken d relations with her...and adham tells her that he was sure this day was sure to come as jallu never loved her πŸ‘ŽπŸΌ in fact she was wasting her tears on him and she always loved him more than adham himself...πŸ€“ she tells him that she had regrets of y jallu had treated her like this but everything happened coz of atgah as he had instigated him against her...πŸ€“ he tells her that he already had warned her about him and had thought of killing him long back but she had stopped him so now he would fulfill his wishes... πŸ˜• maham stops him and tells now everything will b fine as she was wazir and would handle this...πŸ€“ he laughs and tells her that she was no more a wazir as she had lost her imp in d eyes of jalal and so she should face d facts and leaves behind a shocking and psycho maham...πŸ€“

jo goes to kali maa temple... πŸ˜ƒ she recalls her moments with jalal when she had come with him and how he too had prayed here πŸ˜ƒ wow all d fbs were shown and it really gave a spiritual touch at d same time gave goose bumps... πŸ˜› shaguni tells her everything about her feelings and she is amazed to know πŸ˜ƒ shaguni tells her that she should do whatever she feels but her fate will do what it has to do... πŸ˜› her fate was bonded with jallu and so she couldn't stay in amer for long time...😎 jo tries to defend herself but shaguni tells her that if she wasn't ready to go then y she was seeing his images in front of him while praying... πŸ˜› and her fate will play in its own way irrespective of what jo wanted and leaves... πŸ˜› and we have jo in thoughts and jallu in agra all in a broken state thinking about jo...

waiting...πŸ˜‰
Posted: 8 years ago
Originally posted by karkuzhali


<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">Thank you Harshu for your lovely analysis of the key episodes.</font>
<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">You have as usual highlighted the narration punctuated with your emotions and emoticons.</font>
<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">As for your remark about Hamida Banu's behaviour, I do not think that she is indifferent towards him. In fact she sends Salima Begum to console him. And later when he was about to leave for the DEK to pass a verdict, she advises him to consider about all the good things that MA had done to him and decide about the judgement.</font>
<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">And my Nursery rhyme for your tireless effort:</font>

<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">Along the lines of,</font>

<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">"Pat a Cake, Pat a cake Baker's Man</font>
<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">Bake me a cake as fast as you can</font>
<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">Pat it and shape it and mark it with "B"</font>
<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">And bake it in the oven for Baby and me."</font>
<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">
</font>
<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">Do the analysis, do the analysis, dear Harshu</font>
<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">Do the analysis regularly as you do</font>
<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">Write it and mark it with punches and emoticons</font>
<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">And give it to us with appropriate title thereupon!
</font>

<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">Saraswathi Aunty.</font>



hello aunty...thnx u so much... πŸ˜› I agree dat HB had sent SB to console him but SB is a begum she will advice him console him no doubt bt HB being his mother will b better to understand his pain dn anyone else... πŸ˜ƒ ya HB does give him advice before he passes his verdict on maham but it was he who has been to her hojra she dint come to meet him... πŸ˜ƒ she has defo given him advice or consoled him but never on time when he needed her d most she was never der for him...and so I told she was insensitive towards him thou she showed her concern over his pain but still showering concern and personally consoling makes a diff... πŸ˜ƒ anyways thnx fr ur cute and lovey nursery rhyme... πŸ˜› 😳
Posted: 8 years ago
Originally posted by harshu27



hiii prem m happy to read ur Comment on my thread its rarely u comment and u have given a perfect review on y adham cant b totally blamed as its obvious his mother had influenced him of getting power since jalal was d emperor and she had a strong hold on him...and if mother only can have bad influence on her child then d child is not to b blamed...and also loved ur view where u have given d xact diff btw d biological and foster mother...agree completely...indeed blood is thicker than d milk...no doubt... πŸ˜ƒ

I read all your episodes but since busy cannot reply every day. Also you write so well nothing else to add. 

Once exam season is done i guess you will get more comments i feel 

Posted: 8 years ago
Originally posted by harshu27



If you see initial episodes you will realize why HB does not go to him 

I have seen episodes where akbar has outright misbehaved with her in front of ministers and servants

Like when he said initially i remember you when i see lawaris kids or when he throws off her taveez she got from ajmer sharif or when he refuses to have kheer from her hand when maham says its may have poison or when he shouts at her to not come and advice him in terrace etc please see first 50 episodes 

HB is not only his mother she is empress of mughal empire, why will anyone obey her when they see own son misbehaving with her now and then? 

I mean no mother shall tolerate so much nonsense from any child for no fault of hers. 

Akbar thinks hamida and humayun abondoned him with servants while in reality he was kidnapped by his uncles in young age and kept as ransom. Yet humayun and hamida took hazardous trip to cross desert without thinking of their life and got army from persian emperor and rescued akbar. In 16th century a king had many wives and many sons, any other king may have left baby akbar to his fate and enjoyed his life. Instead humayun went and got persian army and rescued him, he left him with maids only when he and hamida were travelling to take help or going to war. Now why akbar making so big issue of this? 

Do our parents not leave us with maids while going to work? Or in playhome or in hostel? Its similar thing no. Do we all hold grudges on parents for doing it, its for our own good and future. 

But Akbar here is having grudge. I mean first risk your life to rescue son than get blamed all life which mom will take it. Lucky HB is his mom anyone else will whack him out of his stupid loft bashans if they were his mom/dad. 

My full sympathy with HB no akbar, Hb gets scared about Akbar recation so avoids him. 


Edited by myviewprem - 8 years ago
Posted: 8 years ago
Originally posted by myviewprem




I read all your episodes but since busy cannot reply every day. Also you write so well nothing else to add.

Once exam season is done i guess you will get more comments i feel


thnx for d appreciation prem... πŸ˜ƒ ya after d xams r over mite get good response as now d track was also boring so will come to knw after d xam season is done...
Posted: 8 years ago

Dear myviewprem!

I like your opinion. Another rule (principle) that Jalal entirely ignores: wife always obeys her husband. And, if Humayun demanded that she was with him, she could not comply.  Jalal has  double standards here: as a son - one, as a husband and the Emperor - others.


Posted: 8 years ago


Dear Prem,
@ Bold:
I agree with you. From the early episodes we can infer that both BK and MA had systematically spoilt the mind of young Jalal against his parents. When BK was confronted by Jalal on the execution of Takhatmal, BK says, "What have your father done to you? It was I who made you the Shahensha.."
And when Jalal returns to Agra and when he was welcomed by the harem people, MA, in the pretext of tasting the sweet, insults the Queen. How does she get the guts? Obviously because Jalal shows scant respect for his mother...He even preferred to call MA as 'mother' instead of HB.

Saraswathi Aunty.


Originally posted by myviewprem


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