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Posted: 11 December 2006 at 12:01am | IP Logged
Earlier, the different laws were serving the purpose as each religion has different terms and by law they should not be made to follow some other customs in their own religious rituals and relations.... but now with increasing number of cross religious marriages.... I seriously feel there is a need of uniform civil code so everyone knows of their rights and responsibility irrespective of marrying to a person of other cast and religion.... Big smile

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Posted: 11 December 2006 at 1:32am | IP Logged

I Support this Uniform Civil code.I will add my views later...

 

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Posted: 11 March 2007 at 6:00am | IP Logged

Originally posted by Jatayu

Originally posted by abhijit shukla

A common equal civil code is the right thing to do but elected officials will never get it done ... it makes too much sense!


Ditto ... and makes them largely redundant

AgreeSmile

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Posted: 11 March 2007 at 8:31am | IP Logged
Ohh the UCC is an extremely debated proposition...
A little into the Indian Constitution... The Directive Principles of State Policy says all states should try to enforce a UCC... But there lies a fundamental difficulty in this...
If a UCC is in violation of Fundamental Rights then it wil be a problem...
Once a UCC is enacted, it will hit at the personal religious laws. Then the Muslims cannot use the Shariat Laws for matters like marriage, divorce and property. They will have to follow the UCC laws. They will not be allowed to have more than one wife. While this might bring about uniformity, it can be argued that a UCC will a violation of Articles 25-30 which gurantee Right to Freedom of Religion.
Minority organisations are strictly against the UCC for the same reasons.
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Posted: 11 March 2007 at 9:41am | IP Logged

Originally posted by Maya_M

In our secular India till we have caste and religion based reservation quota system one people-one law is an implausible dream.

My reasoning on why we were unsuccessful in adopting common civil code-

1. Most political parties opposing this law has minority as vote bank. So they continue to reject for obvious reasons.

2. Common people belonging to minority are doubtful about loss of their actual identity and marginalized in Indian society.

Uniform Civil Code - sounds idealistic but for the reason you mentioned, I don't see UCC, even given a thought by law makers(politicians).

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Posted: 11 March 2007 at 9:49am | IP Logged
Originally posted by raj5000

Originally posted by Maya_M

In our secular India till we have caste and religion based reservation quota system one people-one law is an implausible dream.

My reasoning on why we were unsuccessful in adopting common civil code-

1. Most political parties opposing this law has minority as vote bank. So they continue to reject for obvious reasons.

2. Common people belonging to minority are doubtful about loss of their actual identity and marginalized in Indian society.

Uniform Civil Code - sounds idealistic but for the reason you mentioned, I don't see UCC, even given a thought by law makers(politicians).

Well the Right wing wants a UCC.... The BJP always wanted a UCC

But there is a principle in Constitutional Law called Equality Among Equals... Only those people who are placed equally need to be treated equally. Those who are not equally placed should not be given the same treatment. A citizen should be treated according to his status to ensure fairness and justice. And thats one reason why UCC is not being implemented. The citizens of India are not equally placed... Atleast as of now...

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Posted: 11 March 2007 at 10:36am | IP Logged
Originally posted by swordfishh

Originally posted by raj5000

Originally posted by Maya_M

In our secular India till we have caste and religion based reservation quota system one people-one law is an implausible dream.

My reasoning on why we were unsuccessful in adopting common civil code-

1. Most political parties opposing this law has minority as vote bank. So they continue to reject for obvious reasons.

2. Common people belonging to minority are doubtful about loss of their actual identity and marginalized in Indian society.

Uniform Civil Code - sounds idealistic but for the reason you mentioned, I don't see UCC, even given a thought by law makers(politicians).

Well the Right wing wants a UCC.... The BJP always wanted a UCC

But there is a principle in Constitutional Law called Equality Among Equals... Only those people who are placed equally need to be treated equally. Those who are not equally placed should not be given the same treatment. A citizen should be treated according to his status to ensure fairness and justice. And thats one reason why UCC is not being implemented. The citizens of India are not equally placed... Atleast as of now...

BJP wants UCC, for what reasons?? Its all political pitches to influence younger liberal votes. Can you ever imagine BJP and allias agreeing on cow slaughter. If at all they enforce UCC it will be more like Hindu Civil Code not Universal. Drills down to interests of vote banks which support particular political parties, most political parties are biased on religions and thats why I don't see UCC in law maker's mind.

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