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BOMBAY VELVET BO collections and REVIEWS (Page 101)

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Posted: 15 May 2015 at 8:32am | IP Logged
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did Billa become Mod? lolol


I hope NOT...i would be the first one to be banned thenROFL
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Billa and Bi Ji ka rishta bada purana hain. LOL
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Isslliye hans rahi LOL

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salmans ass licking by biru gone down the drain

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how is it doing in the evening shows?any news??
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Posted: 15 May 2015 at 8:35am | IP Logged
Originally posted by -Arsal-


Nope. That's not the problem.

See the reviews and BO for his movies such as Ugly, GOW and Udaan( he produced it, directed by Vikram).

All are fabulous and top notch. Ugly was rated as the best of 2014 by most. Its plot was extremely complex(way more than BV from what I have read) and you had to pay attention of the tinniest of detail otherwise you would miss something that was going on. You even had to pay attention to what people were saying as most of the times it was all lies and the words had a double meaning behind them.

Still it got huge critical acclaim and it made over 8 cores at the BO( clash with PK, no marketing at all; years end etc. Was made on a 4 crore budget).

The point is if you make a good happening movie it will succeed most of the time. The audience is dying for such stuff (another reason why HW movies are doing so well). Recent examples are badlapur and NH10. Successes with an A rated certificate.

Anurag has no one but himself to blame. Its not the audiences fault if the movie is bad ( going by the reviews, I haven't seen it yet).



Didn't say it was though. You read the previous pages so you know that all reviewers and everyone in the thread too has identified Anurag's scripting as the weakest link. My comment wasn't about the audience not getting or appreciating it as you've seemed to think, it was about a tiny segment of the audience which appreciates move-making details...and that India Today review did appreciate the details in BV even despite its flawed nature, which was pleasant to read amidst all the other reviews because it highlighted some things that others didn't. The fact that Anurag couldn't handle the story and keep the entire project under control is a whole separate issue from that observation and something which has already been acknowledged multiple times as the root cause of BV's inability to be chalked up as a good film. With all those movies you mentioned, it was a different case because he was in his element...with BV, he was way out of his depth and anyone can tell that's the problem.


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First half dragged..i was bored to death over the land reclamation, prohibition act etc..i mean who would care to know all the bureaucratic circles considering they r trying to cater to the masses..it could have been edited out so much more..and made it more crisp..

And the tommy guns..useless agar uske badle simple pistol bhi use kartha tha na kuch faraq nahi padegi! Waste of money..storywise having that scene was ok, but too OTT how it was executed.. could have had the same impact without wasting so much money! (I really wanted to write this one, because of the huge amount they seem to have wasted on it according to Anurag. so they probably did the same for a lot of other unwanted things too)

lol i liked the first half more & foud the second one to be dragged LOL

Bold - they tried to make it too commercialised & ended messing things up . 

@bold - I honestly only thought about the budget at the time! LOL which was ridiculous considering I was actually interested in how he would get to her!! And kinda leaning forward and expectantly watching after the Santa clause bit!LOL

I was checking the time in the 1st half and simply was engrossed during the 2nd half except at Tommy guns! LOL

U know now I don't really blame the critics for giving such contrasting and confusing reviews! Just see how the 2 of us saw it! We even gave the same ratings but liked different things! LOL

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Posted: 15 May 2015 at 9:10am | IP Logged
Originally posted by princessunara

Originally posted by Sharif.Badmaash

Originally posted by princessunara

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First half dragged..i was bored to death over the land reclamation,
prohibition act etc..i mean who would care to know all the bureaucratic
circles considering they r trying to cater to the masses..it could have been edited out so much more..and made it more
crisp..

And the tommy
guns..useless agar uske badle simple pistol bhi use kartha tha na kuch
faraq nahi padegi! Waste of money..
storywise having that scene was ok, but too OTT how it was executed.. could have had the same impact without wasting so much money! (I really wanted to write this one, because of the huge amount they seem to have wasted on it according to Anurag. so they probably did the same for a lot of other unwanted things too)

lol i liked the first half more & foud the second one to be draggedLOL

Bold - they tried to make it too commercialised & ended messing things up .

@bold - I honestly only thought about the budget at the time! LOL which was ridiculous considering I was actually interested in how he would get to her!! And kinda leaning forward and expectantly watching after the Santa clause bit!LOL

I was checking the time in the 1st half and simply was engrossed during the 2nd half except at Tommy guns! LOL

U know now I don't really blame the critics for giving such contrasting and confusing reviews! Just see how the 2 of us saw it! We even gave the same ratings but liked different things! LOL
i think its because interval happens after 1.30 hrs in the movie , ek baar toh i thought does this film has an intermission or not LOL
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Masand's review is here:

Bright lights, big pity

 
 

Bombay Velvet

Rating: 2.5

May 15, 2015

Cast: Ranbir Kapoor, Anushka Sharma, Karan Johar, Satyadeep Misra, Kay Kay Menon, Manish Chaudhary, Siddhartha Basu, Vivaan Shah

Director: Anurag Kashyap

Against the flickering light of a black and white movie playing in a theatre, you see the rapt face of petty thief Balraj (Ranbir Kapoor) as he watches the climax of the 1939 gangster classic The Roaring Twenties. James Cagney, shot dead, lies in the arms of Priscilla Lane; she tells a cop, visibly heartbroken, "He used to be a big shot." Balraj is moved, his eyes are moist, and you have a sinking suspicion that you know where director Anurag Kashyap's Bombay Velvet is headed.

While the opening credits reveal that the script is inspired by historian Gyan Prakash's book Mumbai Fables, the film itself is primarily about the fictional love story between Ranbir's Johnny Balraj, now a bonafide gangster, and nightclub singer Rosie Noronha (Anushka Sharma). Their relationship plays out against the backdrop of 1960s Bombay, a city on the threshold of becoming a metropolis. All the action is centered in and around jazz-club Bombay Velvet, owned by conniving newspaper baron and bootlegger Kaizad Khambatta (Karan Johar), who makes Johnny his flunkey, but gradually becomes obsessed with him.

On the surface, Johnny is the manager of Bombay Velvet, but he actually makes Khambatta's problems go away - by kidnapping, blackmailing or killing people who stand in the way of Khambatta's ambition to transform Nariman Point into Bombay's Manhattan. Other key players include Johnny's childhood friend and sidekick Chiman (a nicely understated Satyadeep Misra), rival newspaper owner Jimmy Mistry (Manish Chaudhary), and an investigating officer who won't give up (Kay Kay Menon in great form).

Subterfuge, blackmail, thwarted love, and at least two unconvincing plot twists - the first involving a coveted negative, the second being the sudden appearance of a twin sibling - all add to this dense script. Yet, despite its overcrowded plot, the film is let down because the love story at its centre feels hackneyed.

That's a shame, because Bombay Velvet has all the trimmings - solid performances, a terrific jazz-soaked soundtrack by Amit Trivedi, and excellent production design that takes you by the hand into the city of the late sixties. But how you wish the script had lingered more on the greedy government-mill-owner-media nexus that took over mill lands to create the urban landscape of Nariman Point. Unfortunately, the film is too often waylaid by Johnny and Rosie's predictable drama. It's perplexing - more than once you catch yourself wondering, "What happened to the story of Bombay?"

It seems as if multiple threads in this narrative were left incomplete, possibly chopped away at the editing table. Coherence, or the lack of it, is a big issue in this film. Characters like Mistry and Mayor Romi Mehta (Siddhartha Basu) aren't entirely convincing, and the Fight Club-inspired underground-boxing subplot is contrived. To be fair, however, the film has some enduring moments: a sweet exchange between Rosie and Johnny in a bathtub, a tense wordless phone call between Johnny and Khambatta, and that mad drum solo that matches the sheer intensity with which Johnny takes on Khambatta, all guns blazing Scarface-style. These are some of the bits that stay with you.

Of the cast, Karan Johar is surprisingly effective in his debut as the snarky, manipulative Khambatta. A scene in which he leaves a room to hide an uncontrollable laughing fit over Johnny's naivete is one of the best in the film. Anushka Sharma as Rosie never feels like an adequately written character. Despite being one half of the film's central love story, it's a part that doesn't come together and is seldom compelling. The actress does much better expressing Rosie's pent-up pain in the marvelously realized Dhadam Dhadam number.

Ultimately, it's Ranbir Kapoor, soldiering on as Johnny Balraj, who infects his part with considerable charm, capturing his hotheaded nature, his bottled fury remarkably. You're riveted by his display of rage against a slimy photographer who threatens Rosie, and likely moved by his grief when he bids goodbye to a close friend. It's Ranbir's performance that glosses over many of the film's problems.

Bombay Velvet doesn't have the raw energy or the unforgettable characters of Kashyap's Gangs of Wasseypur. It's never as involving a story as Black Friday. And yet what you cannot deny is the sheer craft that Kashyap brings to the enterprise. This is an ambitious saga; skillfully mounted. You're fascinated by the resemblance to real-life figures, the unwavering attention to detail, and little touches that are vintage Kashyap - like a stand-up comic making political barbs back in the day. The missing piece of the puzzle, sadly, is the inconsistent script...one that never lets us truly care for the characters, one that leaves too many questions unanswered.

I'm going with two-and-a-half out of five for Bombay Velvet. Much of the film dazzles, but I found myself longing for some soul.

(This review first aired on CNN-IBN)

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