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Sangat (HumTv) - Mikaal, Saba Qamar, Zahid Ahmed (Page 121)

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Tumhein kaunsa daura par gaya hai?
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No in every show we see the victim suffering and being blamed, just like Ashis husband will punish her in this show too
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Originally posted by OnlyHope

Tumhein kaunsa daura par gaya hai?

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Abby is coming to kantaap you LOL
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Hello guys i m not watching the show ,waiting for its end so that i can start...but recently i came across a review saying that in this show the rapist is being glorified and makers r trying to make the viwers sympathized with the rapist...if it is true i will not watch this crap Angry i had great expectations from this show because of the cast..it is very disappointing... Senior actors like saba meekal should think twice before choosing these type of dramas  as they r very sensitive issues
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Originally posted by ABBY_JERAN

Originally posted by 26javey

I don't condone how the show is going. Like Star said having mixed feelings about the rapist is plain wrong. Would we ever have mixed feelings about a rapist in real life? No, we would. So, why should we in reel life? 
Abby, you just said he feels guilt after seeing Ashi in pain. Does that mean he feels guilt for his actions or the consequences of his actions? I'm not sure that's clear. He feels guilt, which he should, but why can't he feel it behind bars? I recently read an article which talks about how we condone rape and rapist by letting them roam freely. By telling the victim to let them be and move on. It really hit me and we shouldn't. We shouldn't want it on television either. 

And as for people shipping Shavez and Salma, it's just sad. The poor girl deserves someone better. A rapist is a rapist just like a murderer is a murderer. Both are heinous crimes and should not be forgiven. 


None of the above points earlier is shown in the show 

By the moulovi shavez convo it was made VERY MUCH CLEAR by the writer to the viwers that HOW BIG A GUNAAH is rape considered in Islam and it's an unforgivable crime doesn't matter how much he repents now...but all he can do is minimize the punishment by doing repentance with true heart and asking her forgiveness

Saba mom indeed tells her to move on coz for the mom the rapist was a burgler...
but she was never shown just to let the rapist move around n let him be the way it was shown in chup raho 

Saba mom is shown to b a very strong working lady here who tried her best to bring Saba to a normal life 

And no one is shipping shavez Salma ...people find their nok jhoks cute and a pleasant comic Break from the other otherwise tensed scenes


We as the audience understand that rape is a big sin, it's not something we learnt from the show. It's good they're showing it, but majority of the audience already knows this. But what I still don't understand is whether he is feeling remorse of commiting the sin or the consequences of commiting the sin. You said he started to feel guilty after he saw the pain Ashi's going through, so what is he quilty about. And they should do a better job at showing him repenting. Also, him asking her for forgiveness is selfish in my eyes. He's done so much to her and instead of letting her be he needs her forgiveness. He should be repenting to Allah and leaving Ashi alone.

And her mom is more progressive than the usual ones, but she as an educated woman should understand her daughter is going through PTSD and a few sessions won't just fix it. They could have easily shown it as Ashi's journey towards self acceptance, that would have sent a more meaningful message. Instead we're being shown them talking about moving on and suddenly they've moved on. Where's the journey?


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Originally posted by ABBY_JERAN

Originally posted by starstruckk

@ Abby The fact that the RAPIST isn't behind bars and is roaming around repenting on the streets, not to mention being able to EASILY convey how "awful" he feels while the ACTUAL VICTIM has felt disgusted with herself and can't even open up to anyone without indirectly being asked to shut up, is pathetic.

And why is this NOT a story about a rapist paying for the heinous crime that he has committed? You're going to use such a topic for your show and then have no idea on how to tackle it?  That's not even an excuse. I don't care how sorry the rapist feels..even a murderer can feel awful for the murder he has committed, but what are we supposed to do with that? It won't ever erase the crimes they've committed.  If not the traumatized victim, then the family or society around should ask for justice by default. This show shows NOTHING of such sort. It's a failed story that has made a mockery out of such a sensitive topic like rape. Plain and simple.

The show is NOT trying to ERASE the rape as a crime 

And it's not as if the whole world knows about shavez being the rapist and all r silent 

Then ur accusation of the rapist roaming around freely wud hv made sense 

But except for ashi no one knows shavez is the culprit and she is scared to admit as she hasn't made the rape incident public yet 

There is lots more left to b shown in the upcoming 14 epis 

So don't pass on ur Verdict as if the show has already ended

The story is just getting intense 

U don't care about the rapist 

Good for u 

But showing the rapist side of the story is what's making the show different and hence it's such a big hit ...

All want to know what happens next 

Trps hv risen after shavez story hv started unfolding

So it's wrong to say no one is interested to see a hatke rape show 

And whether the show made a mockery of rape or not ...that Verdict u keep to urself till the last Epi airs 

Coz by the posts here it seems like they hv read the script beforehand n already deciding the end themselves 

It's society that teaches victims to stay silent and that kind of mentality is stuck with Ashi. Why would she expose the rapist when the society we live in will ignore it? And don't say that doesn't happen, it happens all the time. Cases like this take place all the time. Just recently a girl exposed her rapist to the internet through Talk, Dammit. and we found out that not only did her family know and chose to remain silent many others did too. So, Ashi not telling her mom and anyone the rapist name is something the society is to blame for. He is roaming around freely and it's absolutely wrong. He knows he's a rapist, he's commited a crime, and he feels remorse. Why won't he turn himself in?

The promotion of rape culture is what's making this show a hit does not surprise me. We live in such a society that just needs another excuse to blame the victim and glorify the rapist. The show is a journey, not a destination and if one does not like the journey they have every right to say so.

We may be cynics for our opinions but it's likely not going to change about the show.


Edited by 26javey - 21 November 2015 at 12:38am

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