Originally posted by: NitaMikealsonOkay here we go. 😆
I get it all the good guys have suffered way more than they deserve from the hands of klaus the cruel. Jackson did not deserve to be treated like that, davina should not have lost her first love and second love, hayley should have been left to live her new married life in peace.Having said that my problem is not with the good guys being good buy good guys thinking they are powerful than a 1000 year old vampire and 1000 year old witch.Okay running away from dahlia let suppose klaus went on with his plan since hope safety was a priority and killed her then what do you expect him to do next. Live his life forgetting his daughter just because he has more enemies than hayley. Hope is still his daughter and I don't think it okay to say since klaus has more enemies jackson can bring up hope as his daughter.You forgot one thing though - Jackson & Haley already gave in to Klaus , they never took Hope away from Klaus , it was Klaus who took everything for granted without even so much of thought given to his own actions , in fact Jackson moved in with the originals for that reason alone - for Hope to be with her father- Klaus & the protection for Hope to be stronger .. but it was Klaus who forced Haley & Jackson to take such a decision .. no amount of reasoning by Haley helped Klaus to mend his ways , they were left with no other option - courtesy - Klaus..As far as compromising Hope's protection is concerned , i already gave you my take on the plan.. whatever risk was associated with it , it was better to take it & stand by the honor-pride of the pack-family than let Klaus abuse & undermine them like worthless minions .. after all Hope too is family , everybody was willing to die before anyone attempts to harm Hope & thats what counts .. the other options were explored , it didnt work ..Moreover , this whole "estranged parents trying to raise a child together" is not an alien-unknown-supernatural phenomenon .. it happens even in the real world .. the solution ain't a rocket science either .. nobody asked Klaus to forget his own daughter & let her have a new family without him being a part of it .. Klaus could have had it all simply by talking to Haley & Jackson - these are the same people who moved in with Klaus after getting married , do you think they would have denied him his rights as a father ? .. funny , how compromises should never be expected from Klaus but sacrifices should be expected from others & if they fail to do so , they should be punished ..But the one thing you failed to remember is dahlia is not klaus enemy. She is Hope enemy. It was not because of klaus it was because if the dumb promise esther made. So if the situation were reversed and elijah was the one who is hope father. Eventhen dahlia would have targeted the mikaelsons. So saying it klaus fault is frankly not right.No, Dahlia wasnt Klaus' fault , it only had everything to do with Hope being a Michealson .. i never said Elijah fathering the child would have stopped Dahlia , simply that Hope is better off not being a Michealson .. moreover, with Klaus's own nature , he is bound to gift Hope many more enemies ..Also hayley didn't think of the consequences, her plan was to run away leaving klaus. But when the target is one the run do you think dahlia will stay here and fight with klaus. No way she would have went after hayley and not klaus.So without any protection for hope. No witch to cloak them atleast for a while. No place protected from magic, they just left believing in their strength and that plain stupid.See , the target was of course Hope - but the catch is , both the originals & the wolves would die before any harm would come upon Hope .. yes Dahlia wouldnt stay to fight with Klaus when the target is elsewhere , but the entire point was - Originals catch up with Dahlia before she reaches Hope , and if she did , the wolves would do their best & die .. as far as , 'no place protected from magic' is concerned , i happen to know for a fact that when Dahlia finally got to Hope & took her blood , the baby was in a bassinet in the Michealson mansion ..And the most important reason why I hate hayley and jackson is because they think way to high of themselves. There strength and power.How was the scene when they were planning which city to live like they are some new married couple choosing to leave the city at leisure than out of necessity.And that is precisely the reason why i respect Haley & Jackson .. they explored every possible option , they even moved in with Klaus .. when Klaus mistreated their family , they tried reasoning to the best of their ability - it didnt work .. so they chose to take the risk rather than turn into Klaus's minions , a quality i find worth respecting becoz it is not arrogance , it is pride .. had Haley & Jackson taken off without even attempting to reason with Klaus , i would have hated them coz then it would come off as arrogance.. but they did everything they could .. finally decided to take the risk .. honestly , i was pissed with Haley when she slept with Elijah , however , after her marriage , when she stood by her husband & her pack , all that dislike turned into respect ..What makes Haley a good mother is that she did not give in to the risky decision easily , she tried every possible option before taking the risk ; what makes her a good wife & a leader is that she did not let the dignity & pride of her husband & her pack suffer at the hands of Klaus .. all in all , a risk worth taking and if anything were to happen to Hope in the process , it would have been unfortunate - thats all ..
EDITED : Also on what world would it be okay for hayley to leave hope to an old grandma who can barely stand and go to save her jackson, jackson possess the same level of power as her and so are all the other werewolves with him so what difference will it make for her to go there . Shouldn't her priority be running away with the child to keep it safe.Yeah that bit was a little weird .. 😆 ..but until now I thought the wolves only inherited her ability to transform at will , i didnt know they inherited all her hybrid-vampire strength .. 🤔
Originally posted by: Quixotic-Frenzy
Originally posted by: NitaMikealson
Originally posted by: NitaMikealsonAlso klaus might be a villian but hayely is no saint . she let 12 of her friends die to just obtain the info of who is her parents. so the haley we met in tvd is not the hayley we see in originals.
Originally posted by: Quixotic-Frenzy
Haley is definitely no saint , i am pretty sure about it , even in season 2 she slept with Elijah when she was engaged to Jackson .. my current POV about Haley-Jackson is strictly confined within the limits of Klaus-Hope-Haley-Jackson equation/context ...
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