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KY2 - Immense Potential. Lack Of Execution! (Page 2)

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Posted: 12 May 2015 at 6:04am | IP Logged
Although soha n pandit track seems similar but somewhr I feel that it was poor execution or maybe wrong interpretation.. By pandit.. It could Hve been more focused on teacher- student harassment which has become frequent news these days.. I guess they r trying to show that even though it's a teacher but u shd Hve the courage to stand up for urself n take action...jus don't stay mum like riddhima.. But I think maybe extra dramatization happened with kidnapping n all...

Jus a thought.. I agree it's a youth show but cvs hve been trying to incorporate a mix of serious story lines with funny scenes... Had they shown Manik always winning.. I would have found it hard to believe but he also had his share of insults frm pandit or proven wrong by pandit..so for me manik as a character feels like a college student who z 19

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Posted: 12 May 2015 at 6:32am | IP Logged
Originally posted by FieryHeart

@TM - I really applaud you for making this much needed post Clap I agree with every point you mentioned. I have watched many Indian TV shows but except for two shows I have given up on all of them mid way, thanks to the cliched tracks they bring in. 
I for one was not watching KY2 until recently when everyone were raving about it. When I decided to start it, my friends warned me that I will get fed up and give up like my other shows but I still went ahead. I started watching and boy was I hooked or what? I caught up with 70 episodes in less than 10 days though I spend most of my time in office since I am a working professional and I spent all my free time watching them when I got back home. I even told my friends that I loved it and I will watch it regularly after catching up with all the episodes but they only told me to watch till episode 100 and then decide. Well I didn't have to go even that far. I saw till epi 70 and after that I saw only in bits n pieces since hardly anything made sense Confused

U had a wonderful line up of actors and their characterization was fab too. Then where did it go wrong? Confused I agree Manik Nandini are the USP of the show. So what? Take any international show. The lead couple are always the USP but the shows are a hit because the supporting actors have a prominent footage and they are not treated like side kicks. Parth and Niti are fabulous actors but so are Ayaz, Charlie, Veebha and Kishwer among many others. Their characterization was so interesting. But the show lately revolves around conspiracies to break up MaNan and efforts by their friends and loved ones to bring them together Confused I mean like seriously? Both are such mature individuals who can handle their issues but you need the entire universe to focus on them alone? And what sense does it make sense when they decide to stay apart for reasons even they do not understand or agree with? Confused The show could have still centered around them focusing on other issues and how they handle them with their friends. First they break up coz Manik wants to sacrifice her for Dhruv and OK, I get it why Manik did it though it was wrong. But then Soha came in, then Pandit comes and next God knows who all Wacko

But we blame the CVs everytime. Have we tried to retrospect our own words or actions? Social media is the IN thing unlike in previous days. Its been a curse of sorts in the disguise of a blessing if I say and this is strictly my opinion alone. We had such wonderful shows much before our time, much before this saas bahu crap started coz the makers would take the story in their route rather than let audience dictate terms to them. We are saying youth shows are a breath of fresh air? Then take the shows from 80's and early 90's. They were much much progressive than even all the youth shows of today put together. 

Its good to hear out what audience has to say but lately the makers are so blind in their pursuit to be numero uno in the TRP game that they blindly give in to what audience wants. I know I will probably get a lot of flak for saying this but I don't care. Go to any media, be it twitter, or public forums like India Forums. All audience want to see is romance. Give us MaNan kiss, MaNan romance, MaNan make out sessions, MaNan eye locks, an episode full of MaNan. Where is the space to give other tracks prominence? You think the creatives don't visit these forums? Or don't get influenced by them? These are the very same people who came up with a wonderful concept. Then is it so difficult to maintain the standards by them? Have we ever given it a thought? Every other post here or maybe majority of them are made only on MaNan. How many posts are made to appreciate other tracks? Say we get one episode where majority of the chunk of it is given to another couple or a character, people start cribbing. For ex, Mukti's track. It was important to highlight it but many of them were cribbing that instead of focusing on MaNan issues, Mukti is hogging the limelight. Mukti Abhimanyu track was so soulful but how many of them appreciated it even? Instead they grumble saying enough of footage given to her, move on with the story by which they mean give us MaNan overdose. 

I wholeheartedly agree that the tracks you mentioned need to be given importance but they are killing the essence of the show with an overdose of romance between the leads rather than maintaining the balance. I don't care if I sound blunt but when I saw your post I wanted to speak my mind too. I just wish now that CVs have finally made MaNan acknowledge their feelings they get on with the story than just drag it around them. I love MaNan and PaNi but I love other characters n the story as a whole. I hope that the show gets back to its initial days of glory.


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I absolutely agree with your take on this. Very well put together. Being the USP of the show gives Manik-Nandini and even Parth-Niti a chance to showcase their talent on stronger ground. But the show has so many more amazing actors, like you mentioned, who are essaying some major roles. My issue here is that they have not been utilized to their talent's worth. As you mentioned, they are mainly just ganging up together to bring Manik and Nandini closer every time nowadays.

You've made an amazing point here. I remember the shows from the 90's and even early 2000's when my Mother used to watch them and I remember most of them had such amazing stories and were indeed more progressive. These days, female leads are so weakly portrayed that it makes me wonder what on Earth goes around in peoples minds who actually like watching a regressive woman who is present solely in a show for just a romantic angle or to see a hot male lead treat her like crap and then walk off in the sunset together.

If the makers can come up with such a brilliant initial story, I refuse to believe that they can't do it again. You're right once again that the fault lies within the unnecessary demands of some fans (no offense) which causes the makers to give in. I can't find anything else to add. You've basically said it all, and said it well. Let's hope that the CVs as well as the audience realize that KY2 is not all about a single couple's struggles and romance, but it has a whole group of other people and their stories contributing to it.

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Posted: 12 May 2015 at 6:34am | IP Logged
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Posted: 12 May 2015 at 6:40am | IP Logged
well dear.. I have already said these things repetitively & I just don't have anything to say more..
just wanna say completely agree wid u.. makers r just ruining d show day by day more..

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Posted: 12 May 2015 at 6:41am | IP Logged
Originally posted by FieryHeart

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I honestly didnt like the Mukti Abhimanyu track, it made absolutely no sense that a guy lands up from god knows where and turns up to love and leave a person who uses love as an emotional crutch, causing even more problems for her.
Honestly I would have liked seeing Mukti sort out her problems on her own, without using love and sex as a crutch without the need of a "man" to heal Mukti, since love seems to be Mukti's choice of poison to numb pain.

I know using sex as a letout isn't the solution to your problems but its certainly not unheard of. U find love in the most unusual of situations. He landed up from nowhere but he did bring a smile on her face. A person who had lost faith in relations after a failed relation begins to open up to life and embrace it again. Mukti was always emotionally weak though she put up a strong front. She was the most vulnerable among fab 5 and in the true sense Abhimanyu made her realise she was wasting away her life when he was trying to make the most of it though his days were numbered. She is a different person now than the person she had been before Abhimanyu.

Mukti's problem is not love or sex, its her own self-worth and for me personally the Abhimanyu Mukti track came off shallow, for a person who struggles with emotional issues, who values her own-self worth by the relationships she has, who has attempted suicide twice and to show on TV that her problems with self-worth are solved by love is a little hard to believe. She has serious psychological issues, which should be addressed by addressing her self-worth, not using a plaster to cover superficial wounds. Mukti's issues are deep and cannot be solved by a guy or falling in love. The two times she attempted suicide were because she felt worthless without the relationships, 1)No identity without Fab5 2) Harshad with Navya, made her feel worthless. This is not about love but what Mukti feels about herself and a man and a relationship is just a cover or a bandaid on a superficial wound. Abhimanyu hardly knew Mukti and a couple of scenes later, they are in love and helps her with her self-worth, which psychologists work years for with patients. I can't buy it.

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Posted: 12 May 2015 at 6:42am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Miminits

ClapLovely post
truth be i'm more than fed up with the repetitive tracks, first Soha and this Pandit was even worst in terms of dragging
i can easily say that i'm no longer enthusiastic like before to watch the show, by default i do nothing around that time, so i'm just watching it for the sake of passing time! This Pandit track and yesterday's episode was seriously one of the worst episodes ever, and this has started a few weeks back!
 
once when Harshad's track was dealt in maximum 2 weeks, now a fusion concert or even album was dragged for monthsSleepySleepy
there are so many potential stories like you stated, but yet they prefer wasting time on cameo who turned out to be psychos!
what is so different regarding the track? Soha and Pandit are both psychosDead
Nandini has no personality in this story except Manik's love interestConfused
Cabir, like you said, people who just came wont even realise that the guy is gay
Navya, well she's worst, one really wonders if she's pregnant
and same with the other cast!
it's a shame, but once a show becomes top, CVs starts taking fans for granted and give us crap things, but the issue is that they always pushes fans to their limits, and we have many fans who have already quit this show because of the dragfest, and truth be there's a big chance i'm next on this line, because i dont find anything interesting nowadays on this showSleepy
i'd prefer to watch old episodes of KY2 now than these new episodesSleepy


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There's just too much unnecessary negativity in the show right now. We definitely didn't need to see two psychotic characters back-to-back.

The story they start off with looks so promising but they are unable to execute it to what it's worth. Even Pandit's track could have been interesting to watch had they not shown this whole kidnapping fiasco.

You're right, Nandini seems to be losing her identity. She's only coming off as Manik's love interest now. Apart from a few social campaigns, there's not much she's doing. She doesn't exactly have an individual storyline, like Manik has with Nyonika and Harshad.

Let's hope it doesn't to it that we are forced to quit the show altogether. Fingers crossed.
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Posted: 12 May 2015 at 6:48am | IP Logged
Originally posted by shibz

At least half the forum has been ranting the same for a while now.. so don't be scaredLOL You can voice your opinion here freelyEmbarrassed

Word to your Title! And very well said.

There was a time when I thought I would stick by this show till the end.. but now I'm doubtful about it! They've totally diverted tracks from the original storyline that I feel a disconnect between the current KY2 and the KY2 I was introduced to in the first place. It had interesting plots and characters to deal with that made the journey really exciting to begin with but now they've compromised with the original characters and their storylines in order to accommodate new external villains in MaNan's life. It isn't even the villains that are a problem but the monotony and
the extent of drag. They should know where to stop. For example Pandit track had potential to show real issues but they got Pandit to kidnap Nandini making it unnecessarily melodramatic. I could even understand an obsessed fan Soha to an extent but now with back to back psychos I don't even want to see a new positive character in the showSleepy I'm fed up of this lineup of new entries! Because of them Dhruv, Aliya & Mukti had half baked stories. Navya, God knows what the CVs are trying to say. Cabir is the only one to have had a better story apart from MaNan. But now the CaVya marriage drama was totally uncalled for.

I will be honest that although KY2 as a whole got me hooked on to this show, it was MaNan who got me addicted but that does not mean that I will take new faces in the show over the existing characters.


That's good to know LOL . And thank you!

That's the perfect word for it. Disconnect. It feels as if we're watching a different show altogether these days. A show that started off portraying real issues with the youth of today has been reduced to cheap TRP tactics like kidnapping and misunderstandings.

I too am a fan of MaNan,  but like you, I am not blind to all the other good things on the show. An overdoes of Manik and Nandini is also not good for the show because a time will come when even they have nothing new to offer and the show will lose it's charm altogether.

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Posted: 12 May 2015 at 6:51am | IP Logged
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A very good and very much needed post Fia!! And good continuation Fiery Heart.

It just not your rant, Fia. I am sure quite a few people feel that way and I am one amongst them. I have started watching this show, around mid- last week of March. And I've to admit, I was completely taken by surprise, watching the logic and maturity of the show. I remember discussing the same with my friends. 
In fact, though being a youth show, this show showed maturity beyond comprehension. 
I remember telling quite a lot of others, that this show is a MUST watch. That it has been focussing on the current issues in India. Premarital sex, gay relationships, love child, teenage pregnancies, drugs- abuse, addiction and rehabilitation, of course, teenage relationships, Nyo- Manik's relationship, Nyo- Harshad connection, ?asteroid connection bet Dhruv- Rishabh,  etc etc. Now, everything seemed to have been swept under the carpet. 

Just making a point on the show and what the audience want... all these MaNan scenes U were talking about, yes, of course, we all enjoy them- NO DOUBT! But the ones, who ONLY want scenes bet MaNan, and nothing else must be the younger group in the crowd. 

I hope this didnt sound repetitive. Anyway... good post!!

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The real life issues shown in this show is what actually made the show more interesting, apart from it's well written romance. And the way these have been just left midway is quite unfair.

A show can't work solely on romance and the lead couple. Just like it takes a team to win a competition, it takes an entire cast of characters to make a show!

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