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Posted: 20 May 2015 at 1:04pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by krikumar.91

My two cents on this failed plan B of Battle supreme...

Let us come back to Ishita's insecurity and her her past later... I just have one question... Ishita was talking to her own self that she wants to take her relationship ahead... Had Ishita seen Raman in that mirror before, do you think that the scene would have been the same? According to me, its a No...

Ishita is definitely trying to come out of her shell but her issues are very deep...Raman has laid with another beautiful woman before... Whereas, now Ishita is that woman's position...As a wife... She has always branded herself as an incomplete and unattractive woman who can't attract men just because of her medical issues. 

Raman's message has now added to the pressure. Raman didn't mean it that way because his family is already complete with his son and daughter. But, unknowingly, Ishita has started feeling the pressure...

And this topic is too bold for 11pm slot too... cv's are slowly trying to bring this inside this track in a subtle way. According to me, it has got nothing to do with Biwi's bi-polar disorder or Raman's desperation...

Raman is just being a man who is crazily in love with his wife and Ishita, even after having some natural inhibitions has her past tied to her feet... 


Hi Kri,

About Ishita's deep-rooted insecurities and feelings of not being an adequate/complete woman, I completely agree with the character sketch of Ishita.  But if you think about it, what you have mentioned above @bold are all just assumptions on our part, and while I agree with the same, the creatives haven't shown her pondering over these insecurities, or shown any thought process on her part in this matter..and thats exactly what I was referring to in my post above, that it would definitely help if they allowed us to peek into her inner thoughts about this insecurity and pressure that she feels, so the audience is privy to her thoughts and feelings too Smile


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If she was insecure, how could she kiss Raman in public in a moving car? No one has mentioned that, nor the fact that she went by herself and hugged him on her own while he was on a con-call. If she had not given any physical "come hither" signs earlier, I'd agree about having insecurities, but she has on occasion shown no issues with physical closeness (Holi scene she was as much into it as Raman was right), so maybe its just me, but she seems to flipflop between being sure of herself and not. And I'm sorry, but she's coming across as a tease not an insecure woman.
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Posted: 20 May 2015 at 10:16pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by escapeworld

Originally posted by krikumar.91

My two cents on this failed plan B of Battle supreme...

Let us come back to Ishita's insecurity and her her past later... I just have one question... Ishita was talking to her own self that she wants to take her relationship ahead... Had Ishita seen Raman in that mirror before, do you think that the scene would have been the same? According to me, its a No...

Ishita is definitely trying to come out of her shell but her issues are very deep...Raman has laid with another beautiful woman before... Whereas, now Ishita is that woman's position...As a wife... She has always branded herself as an incomplete and unattractive woman who can't attract men just because of her medical issues. 

Raman's message has now added to the pressure. Raman didn't mean it that way because his family is already complete with his son and daughter. But, unknowingly, Ishita has started feeling the pressure...

And this topic is too bold for 11pm slot too... cv's are slowly trying to bring this inside this track in a subtle way. According to me, it has got nothing to do with Biwi's bi-polar disorder or Raman's desperation...

Raman is just being a man who is crazily in love with his wife and Ishita, even after having some natural inhibitions has her past tied to her feet... 


Hi Kri,

About Ishita's deep-rooted insecurities and feelings of not being an adequate/complete woman, I completely agree with the character sketch of Ishita.  But if you think about it, what you have mentioned above @bold are all just assumptions on our part, and while I agree with the same, the creatives haven't shown her pondering over these insecurities, or shown any thought process on her part in this matter..and thats exactly what I was referring to in my post above, that it would definitely help if they allowed us to peek into her inner thoughts about this insecurity and pressure that she feels, so the audience is privy to her thoughts and feelings too Smile

Only when Ishita understands her problems, she can reason it out... Ishita is basically confused. When she wants to give everything to this relationship, something is stopping her... In both the holi episode and that other night, she gave in... When Raman is talking about the same after giving that message, unknown fear has crept into Ishita... Abandonment issues...

Ishita is basically confused and that's the message that cv's are trying to convey... No mixed signals... She wants to surrender yet her past is stopping her... What if she's not able to conceive? What if they never have their own child? Raman wants it just for Ishita but Ishita is getting jitters whenever this word "child" comes up between them...


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Posted: 21 May 2015 at 4:20am | IP Logged
Just posted this on Gan' thread and doing a copy paste ehre 


I was away on a short trip yesterday so missed the episode last night but here' my two cents on the whole thing.



The interruptions were expected, we knew it would happen and the marriage did provide a perfect oppurtunity for that.


Also because of the rejections she has faced in her past she had made peace with and reconciled herself to the knowledge that men deem her as undesirable, that she' not the woman they want for a wife because she would be unable to give them a progeny.

The first man who post all these rejections took interest in her did it so in the most disgusting way and not just that he made a mockery of her situation in the worst possible manner when he implied that he could show her what it means to be a woman and there wouldnt be any side-effects of that too...so far she had only seen the flip side of her shortcoming to the extent where people discarded her, this situation made it even worse for her...

Her husband started getting attracted to her a long time back but only made it obvious slowly and steadily as his feelings for her started to get stronger.

Now in this phase where they have confessed they love each other she' s definitely over the moon, someone saw her beyond that one thing which everyone defined her by - her infertility and not just that, the man deemed her enough to love her...that is what made Ishita willing enough to want to take this relationship forward. Even when Raman hadnt said he loves her, she had felt his love for her which was enough for her; the woman who backed away and hesitated when she was cornered by her husband post Mihir Mihika' roka, the one who was overwhelmed by watching the naked desire her husband had for her in his eyes now wanted to the thrill of giving into it and tasting that desire, which is what made her participate willingly in those moments spend during holi and the night when Raman stole those papers, not to mention the fact that her husband' ex commenting that they are just playing house also has something to do with it...but moving on, like I said Ishita felt loved, wanted, desired and desirable by Raman in those moments, something she longed for...for someone to want her, long her, just Ishita, the woman, the person and nothing else and it happened here...

Also lately Raman made her feel wanted just for herself each time he came close to her and did something - when he made it obvious how much he wants her, the thrill and joy of it definitely did wonders for her, and like Anu said its partly a reason why she' doing what she is aside from the obvious that she' playing host to guests because of a marriage in her family and as such she has some duties and responsibilities and while men when it comes to sex are on a one track mind, women cannot do that, we arent just programmed that way really. When it comes to sex men dont think, but we do - thats a fact and I dont think I would find many protestors there...

But whats making her play dumb also is the fact that it acts as a convenient getaway, an escape from reality - the fun and banter, the teasing and grumbling of Raman acts as a buffer for her which lets her not ponder over the sudden pressure that she' felt - the one thing which is what cracked her initially - the impending proposition of motherhood.

To her, Raman doesnt just mean to take their relationship forward and consummate it - if that were the case, Ishita would have complied in my opinion, she' being willing in the past as mentioned and known; he means to have another child - with her -  and the repeated hammering of a demand of this child or the urge to try one that Raman has been doing, he' inadvertently scaring her.

Like I said in your post the other day when the SMS scene was aired in the precap - Ishita might never conceive or even if she does it may not happen as soon as Raman thinks it may...he is banking on their love and his very capable sperms but he' not taking into account that this - the thought of disappointing him when it comes to a child may be killing her. She' doing all these things despite wanting to go ahead in this marriage to keep Raman away to just stall things, cause she knows its inevitable, the consummation of their marriage that is...they are in love now and have been very attracted to each other for the longest time, there' nothing to offer as an excuse to avoid this except the chances she gets to delay things...because she' scared once they give into their desires, into this temptation they have for each other - she would no longer be able to avoid the hope that would make Raman look at her. Each month that she would find herself going through the cycles of a woman' bane of existence she would be disappointing him - but unlike couples for whom this just means lets try some more and maybe the next time, for her this could be the course of her life, the pattern of it set in stone.

Until now she has had no reason to disappoint Raman but in this case she might, and thats what scares her.

Remember this woman cracked under the first few months of her marriage itself when she poured her heart out to her Bala jiju and said the family would want something of me too as their DIL when she heard her MIL cry over Adi and lament that even Ishita would be unable to provide them another heir for Raman, it overwhelmed her...

She was guilty for being unable to give the family who has accepted her a child, a child with a man she didnt even like very much...if she' now scared of disappointing the man she is in love with, the man who' inadverdently making her feel trapped and scared himself, its no wonder she' using escape mechanism and avoiding the roads that lead to her breaking his heart, her letting him down by being unable to provide him the one thing he' asked of her, wants for them so very much.

The more she avoids the further away is the time when she can start really disappointing him; compared to that dejection, she thinks doing this - making him wallow and grumble is a lot kinder and less painful.

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Posted: 21 May 2015 at 4:32am | IP Logged
Saw the new OLV of Ishita reading Laxmi' diary and the reaction Subbu has is weird not to mention the tidbit revealed - Laxmi was unhappy



At this point we have seen just the tip of the iceberg, from the looks of it cause if there was really so much love between the couple that Subbu is driven half-crazy by the death of his wife and kid, why would she mention she' unhappy? If he wants revenge I doubt there wasnt love there but also why would he then behave like a nut who says people are threatening him over the phone about his dead wife when he tried to do a Hulk...Subbu wont just have anger issues by the end of this track, my guess is he would be shown as a certified psycho, someone who' lost his marbles most definitely and the death of his wife and kid just became the straw that broke the camel' back his insanity will have deeper causes and roots - all connected to his past with Ishita and their breakup, under pressure from his mom. 

I think the whole spoiler of someone in the Bhalla family being responsible for their deaths should also be not taken at face value after this development, something just doesnt add up. We definitely are gonna see a lot more of Subbu, if not in the coming days because AT is off on a trip to the US, we will in the track for sure, hell I wouldnt be shocked if his dead wife is too seen in FB' and all, where we learn that there' more to this mystery than meets the eye.

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Like we were discussing a few days back...I would really love it if they could accommodate a girls night where Ishita could talk about her insecurities to her sisters or as aani said even to Simmi...
It would really go a long way in knowing her feelings since everyone is feeling she is acting insensitive now...

SInce the house is anyway packed why can't she stay at her Amma's and the sisters have a night ...
Even if they take it in a comic way like the others too spilling the beans and in that Ishita finding her answers... it would be awesome...

P.S Whenever I think about girls night the first thing that comes to my mind is that awesome scene from FRIENDS...
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Posted: 21 May 2015 at 4:46am | IP Logged
Originally posted by EkPaheli

Saw the new OLV of Ishita reading Laxmi' diary and the reaction Subbu has is weird not to mention the tidbit revealed - Laxmi was unhappy



At this point we have seen just the tip of the iceberg, from the looks of it cause if there was really so much love between the couple that Subbu is driven half-crazy by the death of his wife and kid, why would she mention she' unhappy? If he wants revenge I doubt there wasnt love there but also why would he then behave like a nut who says people are threatening him over the phone about his dead wife when he tried to do a Hulk...Subbu wont just have anger issues by the end of this track, my guess is he would be shown as a certified psycho, someone who' lost his marbles most definitely and the death of his wife and kid just became the straw that broke the camel' back his insanity will have deeper causes and roots - all connected to his past with Ishita and their breakup, under pressure from his mom. 

I think the whole spoiler of someone in the Bhalla family being responsible for their deaths should also be not taken at face value after this development, something just doesnt add up. We definitely are gonna see a lot more of Subbu, if not in the coming days because AT is off on a trip to the US, we will in the track for sure, hell I wouldnt be shocked if his dead wife is too seen in FB' and all, where we learn that there' more to this mystery than meets the eye.


I didn't watch the OLV...
But If his wife is unhappy then it definitely connects to Ishita & his past...
Didn't you write an OS on those lines...Aani, may be they are inspired by that...Wink (We should be that lucky)
On a serious note it makes sense if he and his wife are unhappy...becuase you can't flip and love someother person the next day because your mother asked you to...if he really loved Ishita in the first place...
& did he also mention about his guilt the other day...
I think he is the one responsible for their deaths or may be he pushed his wife to that or may be indirectly but now he is blaming others for that...

But one thing I don't get is if his wife is unhappy with him why will his MIL support him...#mystery

The whole Bhalla family being responsible my only wish is please don't make into another accident track with the guessing games...



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Posted: 21 May 2015 at 5:54am | IP Logged
Aani...Brilliant...And we are on the same page because i commented on the same lines above your post yaar... Ishita wants to move on but her past is pulling her back...

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