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Posted: 15 May 2015 at 2:01am | IP Logged
Originally posted by chembi

Originally posted by shivis18

Guys , read this Big smile
anjanadesigns.blogspot.in/2014/08/who-was-rajput-wife-of-mughal-emperor.html?m=1
Thanks for sharing comment below the article is epicLOLLOL 

Just the author's views. Stern Smile

I have no trouble believing that Heer Kunvri, daughter of Bharmal was a very pretty, brave and intelligent lady and  the mother of Salim and Akbar's favourite. 

What I refuse to believe as portrayed in the serial is that Akbar is a single woman man spending 22 hrs a day with Jodha and that he is a blinking idiot who would have perished if not for the tyaag prem and mahaaanta of the never-wrong begumsa.  This serial portrayal of Akbar is totally unacceptable even in the name of romance, epic or not. Had Jodha been shown as such a tyaag, prem and mahaaanta ki moorthi without compromising Akbar, I wouldn't have minded much, but the serial has glorified Jodha at Akbar's expense to such an extent that it has kindled a sense of resentment for Heer Kunvri among the non-romantics.


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Posted: 15 May 2015 at 3:14am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Sandhya.A

Originally posted by chembi

Originally posted by shivis18

Guys , read this Big smile
anjanadesigns.blogspot.in/2014/08/who-was-rajput-wife-of-mughal-emperor.html?m=1
Thanks for sharing comment below the article is epicLOLLOL 

Just the author's views. Stern Smile

I have no trouble believing that Heer Kunvri, daughter of Bharmal was a very pretty, brave and intelligent lady and  the mother of Salim and Akbar's favourite. 

What I refuse to believe as portrayed in the serial is that Akbar is a single woman man spending 22 hrs a day with Jodha and that he is a blinking idiot who would have perished if not for the tyaag prem and mahaaanta of the never-wrong begumsa.  This serial portrayal of Akbar is totally unacceptable even in the name of romance, epic or not. Had Jodha been shown as such a tyaag, prem and mahaaanta ki moorthi without compromising Akbar, I wouldn't have minded much, but the serial has glorified Jodha at Akbar's expense to such an extent that it has kindled a sense of resentment for Heer Kunvri among the non-romantics.




EXACTLY MY SENTIMENTS


I DONT THINK THERE IS ANY DOUBT THAT JODHA WAS SALIM'S MOM


EVEN MY ISSUE IS THAT SHE HAS BEEN PORTRAYED AS THIS PERFECT PERSON - UNLESS SOMEONE IS AN INCARNATION OF THE SUPREME DEVI THEY CANNOT BE PERFECT. HUMANS HAVE BEEN CREATED TO BE IMPERFECT


FIRST THING IS THAT SHE IS TOO PERFECT - TYAAG, BALIDAAN, PREM AND EVERYTHING GOOD PERSONIFIED - THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. EVERY PERSON IS A COMBINATION OF GOOD AND BAD


SECOND TO MAKE HER LOOK LIKE THIS, ALL OTHER CHARACTERS ARE SHOWN AS USELESS, OR HER PARAM BHAKTS, OR BOTH - OF COURSE JALAL TOPS THAT LIST. FOLLOWED BY THE EVIL INCARNATE RUKKAIAH. EVEN SALIMA, WHO EARLIER AT LEAST WAS SHOWN AS INTELLIGENT AND PRAGMATIC, HAS NOW JOINED THE BANDWAGON OF BHAKTS



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Posted: 15 May 2015 at 4:01am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Sandhya.A

Originally posted by chembi

Originally posted by shivis18

Guys , read this Big smile
anjanadesigns.blogspot.in/2014/08/who-was-rajput-wife-of-mughal-emperor.html?m=1
Thanks for sharing comment below the article is epicLOLLOL 

Just the author's views. Stern Smile

I have no trouble believing that Heer Kunvri, daughter of Bharmal was a very pretty, brave and intelligent lady and  the mother of Salim and Akbar's favourite. 

What I refuse to believe as portrayed in the serial is that Akbar is a single woman man spending 22 hrs a day with Jodha and that he is a blinking idiot who would have perished if not for the tyaag prem and mahaaanta of the never-wrong begumsa.  This serial portrayal of Akbar is totally unacceptable even in the name of romance, epic or not. Had Jodha been shown as such a tyaag, prem and mahaaanta ki moorthi without compromising Akbar, I wouldn't have minded much, but the serial has glorified Jodha at Akbar's expense to such an extent that it has kindled a sense of resentment for Heer Kunvri among the non-romantics.


Yes it's just the quthor's view  actually she wrote that article according to the info she gathered from here and there (i think so) and me too have immense respect towards real muz  and this reel begumsa is another ekta's herione what we can expect from her apart from tyag,amar prem and mahanta  and akbar's info about his children is/was quite controversial there is no recorded fact so they should write/wrote what they read and hear between according to IF jalal's all children are from one begumLOL
@bold many jalal supporters parroted that as a slogan till now Ouch
  Ps.Tht reader expressed her displeasure regarding the serial's story so that only i mentioned that commentLOL

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Posted: 15 May 2015 at 4:56am | IP Logged
Even if real MUZ was good, intelligent , brave etc all that, it does not take away from the fact that Salima is an evolved lady, well versed in Arts, poetess and respected in court. RUKS was Babur's granddaughter and her father did most sacrifice for Akbar. Other wives were taken by Akbar after his wedding to HK. Infact she was fourth wife . He took some 29 after that. One ot two he really had chased.
 
At some point ministers and members of royal court started hiding their wives preventing them to come in front of Emperor. Only then Akbar realized these are wrong things to do in Hindustan. May be in timur land if emperor wishes anything has to be given away, but not in this land.
 
Serial killed Akbar but it has also murdered HK in a sense. Akbar was not a harem centric man even though it was full and active. He spent most time in governance, court with Navratnas etc.

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Posted: 15 May 2015 at 5:23am | IP Logged
Originally posted by chembi

Originally posted by Sandhya.A

Originally posted by chembi

Originally posted by shivis18

Guys , read this Big smile
anjanadesigns.blogspot.in/2014/08/who-was-rajput-wife-of-mughal-emperor.html?m=1
Thanks for sharing comment below the article is epicLOLLOL 

Just the author's views. Stern Smile

I have no trouble believing that Heer Kunvri, daughter of Bharmal was a very pretty, brave and intelligent lady and  the mother of Salim and Akbar's favourite. 

What I refuse to believe as portrayed in the serial is that Akbar is a single woman man spending 22 hrs a day with Jodha and that he is a blinking idiot who would have perished if not for the tyaag prem and mahaaanta of the never-wrong begumsa.  This serial portrayal of Akbar is totally unacceptable even in the name of romance, epic or not. Had Jodha been shown as such a tyaag, prem and mahaaanta ki moorthi without compromising Akbar, I wouldn't have minded much, but the serial has glorified Jodha at Akbar's expense to such an extent that it has kindled a sense of resentment for Heer Kunvri among the non-romantics.


Yes it's just the quthor's view  actually she wrote that article according to the info she gathered from here and there (i think so) and me too have immense respect towards real muz  and this reel begumsa is another ekta's herione what we can expect from her apart from tyag,amar prem and mahanta  and akbar's info about his children is/was quite controversial there is no recorded fact so they should write/wrote what they read and hear between according to IF jalal's all children are from one begumLOL
@bold many jalal supporters parroted that as a slogan till now Ouch
  Ps.Tht reader expressed her displeasure regarding the serial's story so that only i mentioned that commentLOL

@bold: that is because it is an undeniable truth.

Also as Jaya said, nobody can take away Salima and Ruqaiya's place in Akbar's life either by behenzoning one and villifying the other as though begumsa is the one and only 22 hrs a day obsession of Akbar. When did he conquer, establish and administer his vast empire and partonise arts literature and make his treasury multifold and commence a religious order, if all he did was 'i lubb you' 24*7? Agreed, this is not Akbar the Great but the 'Epic Love story' of  Jodha and Akbar. But there is no need to portray him as a majnu budhdhuram and a murga/gadha and state that Jodha is nek-dil paak saaf pure soul in every episode.

Also it is recorded that Akbar has married many times after Jodha. But why is that none is portrayed, atleast to show the possessive side of romance? Why attempt to make a Ram out of Krishna?

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Posted: 15 May 2015 at 5:51am | IP Logged
even iam ready to believe that muz was salim's mom. But this article mainly talks about the name jodha and salim's negligence towards his mom. I dont know whether the statements mentioned in it , which are said to be taken from jahangirnama are reliable or not. But i have heard that salim spoke high of ruquaiyya begum and salima begum..but speaks very less abt his own mother and that too mentioning her indirectly. !

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Posted: 15 May 2015 at 6:52am | IP Logged
Originally posted by jayaks02

Even if real MUZ was good, intelligent , brave etc all that, it does not take away from the fact that Salima is an evolved lady, well versed in Arts, poetess and respected in court. RUKS was Babur's granddaughter and her father did most sacrifice for Akbar. Other wives were taken by Akbar after his wedding to HK. Infact she was fourth wife . He took some 29 after that. One ot two he really had chased.

At some point ministers and members of royal court started hiding their wives preventing them to come in front of Emperor. Only then Akbar realized these are wrong things to do in Hindustan. May be in timur land if emperor wishes anything has to be given away, but not in this land.


Serial killed Akbar but it has also murdered HK in a sense. Akbar was not a harem centric man even though it was full and active. He spent most time in governance, court with Navratnas etc.
sri i have grown irritated with Muz, doesnt matter how good she was... i have been brainwashed by ekta LOL i know this would only end after a couple of years perhaps LOL

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Posted: 15 May 2015 at 7:28am | IP Logged
Jaya, tht realization which ur talking about took place in 1563-64 only nd akbar very well married many after that also. Tht thing was totally different nd even after tht he nd daulat shad had 2 daughters. LOL.The main point is polygamy was a very common factor in those times. Ajabde was said to be MP's love but he also married many after that nd also had kids with them. so why jalal is expected to be a ramchandra when everyone had several wives? Why so many bashing comes when jalal even hugs sumone else. As sandy said this jalal almost 22 hours with begumsa but still he will be termed a bad husband for jo if he spends even one min with sumone else. Begumsa is very mahan but starts crying if jalal even thinks of marrying sumone else. Wht type of mahanta is this tht u actually expect a polygamic husband to be with you 24*7? On the other hand jalal starts feeling that he is doing something wrong if he even think about sumone else. Bullshit. He had kids with his other 2 rajput wives as well one was a daughter who died at the age of 7 nd another son whose name was also khusraw who died in infancy. point is the love story which compromises others nd to justify one love story other wives r either made villian or sister is not a love story forget epic. Ouch

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