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Scorpio_Velvet IF-Sizzlerz

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Posted: 31 December 2014 at 4:26pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by east_north

to my  knowledge, gadar was the most  watch movies in the last decade , forget about 3 idiots

Gadar was in 2001. I meant last 10 years. 3I is the most watched film since.  

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wat_up IF-Stunnerz

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Posted: 31 December 2014 at 5:07pm | IP Logged
ETT had a slight hike and kick but not as high as aamir movies !! And aamir is good as christmas otherwise  besides tht time period he don't do much, and those not crediting hirani omg ridiculous!! Because people goto see te movie knowong its a raju hirani product ..thats why even munna bhai series did well !!
Btw d2 wasnt hiked as salmans home productions dont have his prices hiked in the past but now hope hes wiser and hikes it enough!! 

Regarding loyality

Yes the base is loyal but what people dont get his though we are loyal to these khans more then aamir we do see his movies SALMAN supporters they have been on twitter supporting  pk and what not, which they would not with others stars..anyways, i got no issue on his movies, just him and his big mouth!!..he just needs to stop talking nonsense (like numbers being he can say that, then WHY not some like me think that these can be manipulated too, as i dont trust the guy one bit, as he cares too much on numbers, and breaking records, but pretends and acts righteous !!

Anyways just came to say HAPPY NEW YEAR to TM. And others..ok m out...

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Posted: 31 December 2014 at 5:48pm | IP Logged
They wouldn't survive 25 plus years if they were ...

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fivestars IF-Sizzlerz

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bollykudi Senior Member

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Posted: 31 December 2014 at 6:08pm | IP Logged
I don't think they are just hype. SRK has said he doesn't pick movies based on if it's "good" I think he just picks whatever will make money. And I think Salman's mentality is the same now. Aamir on the other hand believes in the script. 
I think SRK is the international face of India because non-desis who have 0.003% knowledge of bollywood always know SRK. 
gilmores IF-Stunnerz

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Posted: 31 December 2014 at 6:11pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Arsal-AK

You dont really believe that 3 Idiots worked becuase of Hirani?? A director with two films which were brillaint and a success at BO yes, but being able to drive his next to 200 based on that?? You got to be kidding me. Most people didnt even watch Munnabhai untill after 3I. 3 Idiots made Hirani a huge star and who made 3 Idiots such a collosal hit?? It was Aamir.

As for Talaash, I have already given you the reasons, refute with logic. And if thats the way you are going why stop at that, lets include Dhobi Ghat as well. What about Peepli live or Dheli Belly??

Show me a suspense thriller anywhere in the world cinema, that has managed to become a coloosal hit?? Gone on to break records, can you??

Coming to PK, I hacw already said Raju is a draw but 3 Idiots made that happen. And that happened because Aamir was the lead not because Raju was the director.

Films trend well because of the filmmaker and the product the filmmakers aka the writer/director has made. Films have repeat value because the filmmaker has done his/her job properly. I believe it is a team effort. Initial opening is all down to star power and promos. If it was all down to actors, films of all top actors would trend well and break records. Unlike you, who has taken all credit away from Hirani for 3I, I am not saying that Aamir didn't have anything to do with 3I success. I am merely refuting the notion that 3I worked solely because Aamir was in it. You made it sound like that was the ONLY reason it worked and that I strongly disagree with. By this logic, every single one of Aamir's films should make unbelievable amounts of money. I would understand giving all credit to Aamir if Hirani was a totally flop director with awful films to his name, but Munnabhai is not that. 3I got to 200 at a time when even 100 was a big deal. It ran for months. It simply can't trend like that if the product sucks. So to say it worked only because of Aamir is ridiculous. I hope this makes my point clear. 

Yeah sure if you want to. Whatever happened to Dhobi Ghat and Talaash really? If films work because of Aamir. Even films like Inception, The Sixth Sense have made huge amounts of money at the box office when they released. Earlier that year, a film like Kahaani did exceedingly well, trending far far better than Talaash did...nobody even thought that film will make 20 Cr let alone the lifetime figure it did. IMHO, Talaash didn't work because it didn't do any justice to its genre. It was a boring thriller with the suspense obvious by the interval time which is the worst for a thriller. They should have promoted it as an emotional film...a film about a family finding peace or a supernatural thriller and it might have done better. They messed up by promoting it as a whodunit thriller and people who went in expecting that, were disappointed as it failed at we had already seen Kahaani, a far superior film, few months beforehand. I thought Talaash needed better editing and a tighter screenplay. It was a flawed and confused film and hence it was only a 'semi-hit.' Not everything is about 'no holiday.' I don't really care that Talaash didn't break records or whatever, but if you're going to argue that a film like 3I worked because Aamir was in it, then you cannot use excuses like 'no holiday' for Talaash. 

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KhanSinghKumar IF-Rockerz

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Posted: 31 December 2014 at 7:44pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Arsal-AK

Originally posted by KhanSinghTomar

[QUOTE=Rupalov][QUOTE=KhanSinghTomar]The real all-time worldwide stardom is still SRK>Salman>Aamir


It is Hirani who has benifited from Aamir rather than vice versa. At the time of 3 Idiots Hirani was just a director who had given two amazing and successful movies. A lot of directors do that, infact have done that. 

Most people didnt even watch MunnaBhai series until 3 Idiots became the phenomeneon it did. It was 3 Idiots that proppelled Hirani to the top and onto the world stage. 

Aamir was the reason for that. Three Idiots did 200 crores becuase it was an Aamir Khan film. Not becuase Hirani was the director.

Coming to PK, yes now Hirani has the BO pull, thanks to what he has done before. But again Aamir is a huge, huge reason as to why PK is doing so well. A much bigger reason than Hirani.

As for Talaash, the film did 96 crores without a holiday period in the genre that it is. What else were you expecting?? LOLLOLSuspense thrillers dont do big in Hollywood let alone here. It takes guts to do something like that. 

Shahrukh had Don2, JTHJ etc and Salman Jai ho. Full on comercial entertainers yet no word on them. The further icing on the cake is that Don 2 is a part of a huge franchise and was a holiday release too(yes it was Xmas).What happened??LOLLOL

So, no Hirani was never the reason fo Aamir's success. And Aamir is indeed way ahead of either Salman and Shahrukh in terms of well... everything.

That's a good joke bro ROFL... i can't argue against your argument with you win.
If Aamir's next movie doesn't do 200 crores, don't come and write on the forum that it happened because of director because as you said, it doesn't matter who is the director, it's all Aamir, the God LOL
I am a fan of Khans but not a blind, flying fanConfused.  I don't even remember how aamir acted in 3 idiots; his performance was that mediocre in that movie, you kidding me 3 idiots became that big because of Aamir only?!

Edited by KhanSinghTomar - 31 December 2014 at 7:53pm

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hellz Senior Member

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Posted: 31 December 2014 at 8:06pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Heisenberg.

So-called India's "biggest superstar" and "King Khan", both have the most fanatical ardent fans, though the former probably has more, both are most publicised by the media, most hype surrounds them, both sets of fans quibble 365/24/7 over box office results and figures... and who takes the glory at the end of the year?, Aamir.

Time and time again, Aamir ends up whooping both their arses, and no-one even gives a shit about him.  Is it a case of empty vessels make the most noise?

It seems like Salman is destined to remain last despite whatever his fans claim, facts state otherwise.

Its all the game of holidays between top 5 stars and Even Ajay as well all know his movie on 15th Aug how it broke all records. The more holidays and better release you have better will be the collection no matter who stars in it. It is just media hype for khans.

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