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Posted: 31 December 2014 at 3:33pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Scorpio_Velvet

People bring "crap scripts argument" as if that's something to be proud about.  D3 is bashed here mostly yet it broke all records. Ghajini was a masala film that set records. Aamir's masala attempts have a minimum standard at least and that's a good thing actually.

Talaash was a semi-hit and did 90 cr business though it was a multiplex movie. Aamir has done Ghajini. Can Salman even pull off a Talaash now let alone make it work? His Tere Naam was a decade ago. All other different attempts like Veer, London Dreams etc have tanked. So what's the logic in saying Bhai's fans will make those films hit? His fans make a certain kind of films succeed. He himself has said that his art films won't work as his fans don't wanna see that.

Aamir can set records with a Ghajini, D3 as well as 3I and PK. That's versatility and star power. He brings in people who doesn't usually go to watch films into theaters along with fans. That's why his films does record breaking business. 

Very well put and agreed hundred percent.

This good script logic just so ridiculous.I mean going by the statements you would think that the whole world will blow up or something if Shahrukh or Salman touched a good script. What the hell is stopping them from doing a PK or a Talaash?? 

Also on Ghajini, only if more movies were like that.Masala or otherwise. It was a fantastic film IMO . D3 was bad though, I hope doesnt do stuff like that again.


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Posted: 31 December 2014 at 3:42pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Arsal-AK


Lol.

It is Hirani who has benifited from Aamir rather than vice versa. At the time of 3 Idiots Hirani was just a director who had given two amazing and successful movies. A lot of directors do that, infact have done that. 

Most people didnt even watch MunnaBhai series until 3 Idiots became the phenomeneon it did. It was 3 Idiots that proppelled Hirani to the top and onto the world stage. 

Aamir was the reason for that. Three Idiots did 200 crores becuase it was an Aamir Khan film. Not becuase Hirani was the director.

Coming to PK, yes now Hirani has the BO pull, thanks to what he has done before. But again Aamir is a huge, huge reason as to why PK is doing so well. A much bigger reason than Hirani.

As for Talaash, the film did 96 crores without a holiday period in the genre that it is. What else were you expecting?? LOLLOLSuspense thrillers dont do big in Hollywood let alone here. It takes guts to do something like that. 

Shahrukh had Don2, JTHJ etc and Salman Jai ho. Full on comercial entertainers yet no word on them. The further icing on the cake is that Don 2 is a part of a huge franchise and was a holiday release too(yes it was Xmas).What happened??LOLLOL


So, no Hirani was never the reason fo Aamir's success. And Aamir is indeed way ahead of either Salman and Shahrukh in terms of well... everything.


Huh?? Really? You can't possibly think that's true. 

So if Aamir can guarantee 200 Cr, what did happen to Talaash? Your words, not mine here. But here I guess 'genre' and 'no holidays' will come handy for excuses here. *rolls eyes* 

On the other hand, Hirani's next after 3I will cross 300. But that must be all because of Aamir too. 

Next Aamir should make a film with only him standing in it, make it by himself, with no writers, editors, directors, or any other help. Let's see it make 500 Cr. 

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Posted: 31 December 2014 at 3:51pm | IP Logged
IMO, with PK Aamir just erased all the shit from Dhoom 3. No big deal if one takes a bath and cleans themselves. Let him sustain it with another quality film with equal mass appeal.
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Posted: 31 December 2014 at 3:57pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by chocolover89

Originally posted by Arsal-AK


Lol.

It is Hirani who has benifited from Aamir rather than vice versa. At the time of 3 Idiots Hirani was just a director who had given two amazing and successful movies. A lot of directors do that, infact have done that. 

Most people didnt even watch MunnaBhai series until 3 Idiots became the phenomeneon it did. It was 3 Idiots that proppelled Hirani to the top and onto the world stage. 

Aamir was the reason for that. Three Idiots did 200 crores becuase it was an Aamir Khan film. Not becuase Hirani was the director.

Coming to PK, yes now Hirani has the BO pull, thanks to what he has done before. But again Aamir is a huge, huge reason as to why PK is doing so well. A much bigger reason than Hirani.

As for Talaash, the film did 96 crores without a holiday period in the genre that it is. What else were you expecting?? LOLLOLSuspense thrillers dont do big in Hollywood let alone here. It takes guts to do something like that. 

Shahrukh had Don2, JTHJ etc and Salman Jai ho. Full on comercial entertainers yet no word on them. The further icing on the cake is that Don 2 is a part of a huge franchise and was a holiday release too(yes it was Xmas).What happened??LOLLOL


So, no Hirani was never the reason fo Aamir's success. And Aamir is indeed way ahead of either Salman and Shahrukh in terms of well... everything.


Huh?? Really? You can't possibly think that's true. 

So if Aamir can guarantee 200 Cr, what did happen to Talaash? Your words, not mine here. But here I guess 'genre' and 'no holidays' will come handy for excuses here. *rolls eyes* 

On the other hand, Hirani's next after 3I will cross 300. But that must be all because of Aamir too. 

Next Aamir should make a film with only him standing in it, make it by himself, with no writers, editors, directors, or any other help. Let's see it make 500 Cr. 

You dont really believe that 3 Idiots worked becuase of Hirani?? A director with two films which were brillaint and a success at BO yes, but being able to drive his next to 200 based on that?? You got to be kidding me. Most people didnt even watch Munnabhai untill after 3I. 3 Idiots made Hirani a huge star and who made 3 Idiots such a collosal hit?? It was Aamir.

As for Talaash, I have already given you the reasons, refute with logic. And if thats the way you are going why stop at that, lets include Dhobi Ghat as well. What about Peepli live or Dheli Belly??

Show me a suspense thriller anywhere in the world cinema, that has managed to become a coloosal hit?? Gone on to break records, can you??

Coming to PK, I hacw already said Raju is a draw but 3 Idiots made that happen. And that happened because Aamir was the lead not because Raju was the director.

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Posted: 31 December 2014 at 4:07pm | IP Logged
Munnabhai series was very successful, but it didn't break any records. LRMB had the hype due to first film's success and cult status. Still it couldn't become highest grosser. Another sequel, D2 became highest grosser that year. Where as 3 Idiots became an ATTB and broke all the existing records easily. It collected 88 cr more than Ghajini which was the highest grosser then. Now PK is gonna do 300 cr. Aamir's role is crucial in both films breaking records. 

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Posted: 31 December 2014 at 4:09pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by east_north

With over hiking the ticket prices for movie like pk and hny , they think they have broke the record. If u count the no of tickets sold comparing Sallu movies with other star then Sallu is miles ahead. That's why he is called mass superstar. Even shit movie like jai ho ticket price were reduced that's why jai ho was 110 cr , if it was not reduced it would have grossed 150 cr easily.


3 Idiots sold most number of tickets in the last decade(around 3 cr). Kick's price was hiked as well still couldn't beat D3.  

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Posted: 31 December 2014 at 4:17pm | IP Logged
Aamir is on a league of his own. He is far ahead of SRK and Salman. He might not have the most loyal fanbase but he has acquired what the other two Khans lack and that is critical and commercial success. He has built a trust among the audience that now whenever someone hears Aamir's name, they expect good quality films. You can't say the same about Salman and even SRK now.

As for people saying Talaash was a dud, it was anything but that. It got semi-hit status and it was one of the most critically acclaimed film of the year. Granted it did not cross 100crs but you have to look at the budget, promotions, genre etc and you can come up with many other reasons why it did not. Logically speaking, a dark film like Talaash to make 94crs is a big achievement.


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Posted: 31 December 2014 at 4:20pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Scorpio_Velvet

Originally posted by east_north

With over hiking the ticket prices for movie like pk and hny , they think they have broke the record. If u count the no of tickets sold comparing Sallu movies with other star then Sallu is miles ahead. That's why he is called mass superstar. Even shit movie like jai ho ticket price were reduced that's why jai ho was 110 cr , if it was not reduced it would have grossed 150 cr easily.


3 Idiots sold most number of tickets in the last decade(around 3 cr). Kick's price was hiked as well still couldn't beat D3.  

Ticket prices were hiked for Salman's ETT and Dabangg 2 as well. Still those did not beat 3I collection.


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