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Sushpective: The price of morality! (Page 4)

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Posted: 23 December 2014 at 11:25pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by BHAVII

Shweta and Sush as always you guys rocked.
Sahir was on mission Sham daam dand bhed -a true follower pf Chanakya. As you said the stake too high for him to loose. So what he played with an innocent soul but again she is innocent for viewers but for him she is playing with Zaki for money. For his mission he did not waste time at all. 

Another back dip in 3 feet poolShocked safety be it hell. He did not even care for himself. However way he chose to play with someone's heart is one thing and to play with life another.A strict  no no. Reminds me of bitwa and his dropping khushi from 1st floor. 

Arzoo on other hand did not even care about her phobia and jumped in the water for the man who almost took her life. And lastly she in love. She is doing good job here.

My heart went for Zaki as Sahir smirked at hug. Not sure was it a smile of victory or smile of her saying ILU. But that smile confused me a lot.

Today Tum theek ho along with muje yeh theek nahi lagta entered yet again reminding bitwa. Hope they allow us to forget ARSHI.

And an hatrick without KA and Anam.

Loved the song they picked today. Have cvs changed?  All of the sudden show ha become way more interesting


..and Sush am working till 900 past few daysOuch


YIKES...working till 9... Why? No holidays?

Yup that drop in the pool...which wasn't a dive but a back flop...was still too dangerous...they should stop doing that PRONTO!! 

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Posted: 23 December 2014 at 11:33pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by jay_bpm

Good you made post as I can pen down it all before i hit bed !
So I loved the episode, that's right loved it !!
Where everyone is worried for Aarzoo and Zaki, I am not much interested in them, yes I am evil Evil Smile 

I for one do not feel too much sympathy for Zaki; dude did Aarzoo in any way ever said to you she likes you or loves you in any manner? So why was he flying on high horse with that? So the pain you feel, you invited yourself. Also him not being father yet being forced in marriage, well does he have credibility? Looking at his track record he can't say much. Aarzoo had told him that tell Sahir in beginning and contain situation, nope sabko hero banana he D'oh

Aarzoo, sure feel pain for her. She doesn't deserve this but then when do we get what we truly deserve or when is life truly fair? 

Now coming to Sahir, finally showing something I like to watch. Man with a clear goal or so he thinks he has it all clear !! Sham, dam, dand, bhed, maya, upeksha and indarjal - 7 rules of Chanakya. Sahir utilized all of them as Badshah needs to do all he can !! 

Sure he did wrong to Aarzoo, for whatever the reason be it was wrong. But then hasn't he always said he is willing to risk it all for his promise. He is even willing to sell himself to fulfill his promise so why be surprised? He never said he will do the right thing or will follow some code, just one goal for him. But then if he has it all clear in his mind, why does heart interfere????

To start with Aarzoo thanking him for supporting her; he has to look away can't see in her eyes when deceiving and has to close his eyes to remind himself he is a businessman. Trying to butter her up and she mentions Zaki. Just then why are you grinding your teethes man. Isn't this just a game, all for the deal? Why bothered if she says Zaki??? 

Next move is very precise calculated move where you risked her life Shocked Did you really go that far? But when she regains consciousness and says thanks you again have to look away, why? And the answer in return I saved my life; now was that part of the game and just a pretense???

When that doesn't work he jumped in the pool. So now risking your life. Are you really going that far? You have deceived her, risked her life and now yours? Are you really that confident she will say it. I wonder where does this confidence come from? Is it of shrewd businessman, a heartless man, or you know it now that she does love you? Which one gave you so much confidence?
Once she did confess, that smile on his face? Was it for victory or genuine? The expressions changed when he saw Zaki and brought a weird smirk. The expression on his face said to me he was genuinely happy or am i reading too much here? Also his smirk when Zaki sees them, was it smirk or some hint of invisible tears there? 

And lastly trying to write poetry and questioning himself. Now that came out very well. This is what I want to see but more intense. Let the man get what he wants or he thinks what he wants and still not get any joy of it. The best line jo kuch kiya sahi kiya, fir sahi kyun nahi lag raha, nahi jo kiya sahi kiya !! 

Now crossing the name off the page and buring it, does it symbolize more? Is he going to try to erase her name from his heart, his being? The burning of paper, is it similar to progression now his heart and he himself will burn? Yes I do want to see guy in pain, retrospection and then self-destructive. I don't want Aarzoo or anyone else to punish him, he needs to punish himself !

Now few questions - this whole facade to Aarzoo, is it only for his deal or he actually wants to keep Zaki & Aarzoo away? Which one takes over when?

Another question is where to got things from here? First I want direction to step up to same level as acting by HC. If they want to show Sahir at times getting carried away by his emotions and have hard time carrying on with his facade, well please highlight it properly !!! Also show more retrospection on Sahir's part. Start bringing out his self-destructive, self loathing side. Before anyone leaves him, show him pushing away people !

Most intriguing question, what is driving his siddatt? I mean why so much obsessed about this promise? He has hide his comatose wife, burning factory and now pretense from Aarzoo. To say he's just evil is so boring, I want damn strong and painful reason for this. I know things move slow but at least start with parts of it and show us the past ! As past comes forward let Sahir question himself what Aarzoo asked, kaunsa Sahir asli he

Loved the parts in bold Jay! That was what I enjoyed the most too...

About the most intriguing question...what is driving his siddatt? I think the wife got under his skin...that even after being comatose...her words are still driving his actions...a sad picture indeed...

That smirk or whatever demented expression there was ...in seeing Zaki...went too far for me...I hope that's not the Sahir that we see more of...


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Posted: 23 December 2014 at 11:43pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by redviolet

Well Sush I oppose emotional blackmail even when its coming from a very committed lover because it endorses the idea that girl should not have the right to chose. It shows that women don't have the capacity to decide for themselves what is best for them. That men can manipulate them into anything. (This can be applied to bigger issues as well) So for me it did not even matter what he was doing it for. Although the business deal makes it a tad worse because it reminds you what he was capable for doing money. Saahir himself decided to put everything out on gamble his home and money everything. He himself also decided to burn down the factory for money. So he is not being put in a situation which he really isn't at fault for. In fact he should own up to his mistakes shouldn't he? Isn't he the one always telling Zaki to own up to his mistake of making Samaira pregnant?

 

Why do we feel bad for Zaki, well because he at least was not judgmental? He KNOWS unlike Saahir that he is not a moral saint so he is not quick to judge and label others. Same cannot be said for Saahir the jail incident being one example and him labeling Arzoo as gold digger would be another. Who is he to pass a judgment on others? Has he ever looked in the mirror himself? Secondly there are still chances that Zaki is being held responsible for something that he might not be at fault for. Samaira being deadly against the paternity test and Zaki being for it indicates so?

 

Coming to the egg allergy, even though the CVs showed Saahir is knowledgeable in this area as he himself is allergic, something still could have gone wrong. Egg allergies are very serious. He did gamble with human life and innocent life too. He isn't too far away from a murderer that their trying to sell as the male lead of the show.

 

Great post Sush! And wonderful collages Shweta!


Nice post, Red! I hope they keep Zakis character likable...Saahir has sure had enough reasons and indications to misunderstand her...but that's what it is in the end ...a misunderstanding...right? 

The deal has made the worst come out in him...

At this point ...it is hard to like Saahir...anaphylactic shock is a very SERIOUS matter...no doubt he has been crossing the boundaries lately...I too am not fond of emotional blackmails...what if Zaki had pulled the same trick on her?  Should she have said she loved him to save him?  

Desi soaps are surely going toward grey and  dark characters...

Anyway...I hope this is the lowest of the low we have seen in Sahir ...and it goes up from here...


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Posted: 23 December 2014 at 11:47pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by -Sush-

Originally posted by redviolet


Nice post, Red! I hope they keep Zakis character likable...Saahir has sure had enough reasons and indications to misunderstand her...but that's what it is in the end ...a misunderstanding...right? 

The deal has made the worst come out in him...

At this point ...it is hard to like Saahir...anaphylactic shock is a very SERIOUS matter...no doubt he has been crossing the boundaries lately...I too am not fond of emotional blackmails...what if Zaki had pulled the same trick on her?  Should she have said she loved him to save him?  

Desi soaps are surely going toward grey and  dark characters...

Anyway...I hope this is the lowest of the low we have seen in Sahir ...and it goes up from here...


Even Zaki has reasons to misunderstand her at this point but he has not done so!
@bold I would personally have clapped had she refused and left either way! But than she might have been held responsible for SAC's murder!

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Posted: 24 December 2014 at 2:20am | IP Logged
Updated post at page 3. 
We have such beautiful writers in this forum and I enjoy reading their point of view and opinion . Great job guys Clap


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Posted: 24 December 2014 at 4:47am | IP Logged
As usual lovely write up  Sush  and awesome collages Shweta. Clap
The quotes r so nice, I really wonder where do u get them Shweta, I mean u just know them all in your head...they always make me think  which is not something I like to doLOL

What an episode, I enjoyed it ...very dark and kind of edgy. I never thought that Sahir will go that far in case of choking incident. Once, choking incident happened, the pool one did not surprise me.

Sahir is ruthless and nothing will stop him even knowing that Arzoo will suffer. I think he is not able to connect dot that when he will see Arzoo broken...how much it will affect him and it will affect him badly and then big self realization that he turned into another Zeenat kind person, the type he loathed.

Using egg allergy, he took a calculated risk, he was confident of handling it as he himself has egg allergy so knows what needs to be done. He had an urgency when he picked her and rushed...I think irrespective he knew he won't let anything happen to Arzooo but man completely evil.

Pool scene was done very nicely. Though when he was standing at the edge of the pool, he had his shoes on, underwater scenes, the feet were bareBig smile
That smile was demented, I felt neither it was victorious or emotional, something was amiss there. 

Harshad and Shivya both did really well. Wet HC reminded me of American actor who I can't place..I know very helpfulLOL

Last week SaAz marriage was the in thing, this week not so sure unpredictability is a good thing though I feel Zaki may be a catalyst in some way. He may ask some kind of stability for Arzoo in lieu of marrying Sam. Sahir will do anything for the deal.


I am enjoying the safar ...




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Posted: 24 December 2014 at 4:53am | IP Logged
Junoonian - I do tend to lean towards what you said about Sahir's smile. But it was not clear what exactly his thoughts may be as no self-talk or retrospection provided ! We are left with smile, smirk and some form of expression suggesting he in some way had regret? Confused
That is why I said direction and editing need to step up to mark big time !!

Sush - I agree that smirk left with a bad taste but as I mentioned before, i saw few parts in those few seconds. Unfortunately direction and editing is not highlighting such expressions to give us more clear picture. Right now it's all on some degree - degree of genuine smile, degree of smirk and then may be degree of guilt. I get that they want to keep some ambiguity but sill ! 

As far as what you said of Sahir's reasons, I don't know if that's enough. I know spouse can really get under skin and have seen ppl do that, but to show Sahir so dark he is burning factory, playing with emotions, risking person's life he has very strong feelings for and to sum it risking his own life; I mean this guy has to be pushed greatly ! All we saw is him making promise to wife in loving manner and her accident. But his interaction with comatose wife is anything but loving. There is anger, agony and hatred when he goes to hospital. Also if his feelings for her is only loving, then how come he started falling for Aarzoo? I mean it wud be trul lame and lazy on CVs part if all they show is promise. Need to show some humiliation, betrayal, something more ! Also HC mentioned in one segment they haven't shown Sahir's journey from sayar to ruthless businessman. I wud hate if they simply show a protagonist is so dark without proper origins !

SO now wud be good time for them to start revealing parts of thing !

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Posted: 24 December 2014 at 7:44am | IP Logged
@Sush have days off starting tomorrow and then back to work on 5th as of now. Keeping my fingers crossed that it remains that way.
But they have to stop that back flop in pools. As people do follow their so called fav stars blindly.


@Jay its high time they start revealing stories and close the loop before it becomes a complete hotch potch and did I tell u after long am reading your essay. Yes I know am giving you the reaon to be high but o wellLOL.  We can not let go of Chanakya and Vivekanad can we? We both just need the reason to quote themBig smile


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