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Posted: 11 March 2015 at 8:51pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by -Aarya-

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" Or restrictions of how one can't marry non Islamic beings or one shouldn't worship Idols makes the religion sound very narrow minded and not as tolerant''
As far as I know every religion says things like that. In hinduism people arent even allowed to marry outside their caste. Its unfair to call a religion narrow-minded based on these lines only. Yes, worshipping idols is not allowed. Worshipping is also not allowed in  Christianity, Judaism and abrahamic religions. So idk why you only chose Islam. If you actually read Quran then you would know that one of the biggest sin is hurting,insulting someone. According to Islam not even Allah can forgive that person who has hurt someone intentionally. The person who has been hurt is the only one who can forgive. Yes we are not allowed to worship and yes we have to follow Mohammad and Allah because thats the essence of our religion. If we do not follow these rules then we will be punished. Almost every religion has certain rules and if those rules are not followed then the followers will be punished according to the scriptures. If these rules make Islam narrow-minded then all other religions are no different. Although personally I do not think any religion is narrow-minded just because they have strict rules.


How much of a dept knowledge do people really have on their own religions beliefs? Where do these religion beliefs come from? What unique evidence is there for your religion or worldview on your religion? Can you prove that what you say about your religion  is true?

Just the fact that you believe in God is a narrow minded belief. If there are many gods, then, of course, it is a totally narrow minded belief to pick just one.  But, if there is only one God, it would be foolish to insist on more, right, so which is it, one God or Many? And if it's many which one is real...

Lol and atheists believing that people who believe in God are narrow-minded make them open minded? We all can agree that the universe operates somehow. There is has to be a power which operates it. For me God is that power. What is so narrow-minded about believing that?

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Posted: 12 March 2015 at 7:03am | IP Logged
The original Pentateuch is also said to be the word of God. 
In the end the question is not about whether something is God's word or not, the question is about how sane are those who believe. 

Judaism has been slowly liberalized over time. Christianity had the protestant reform movement. Even Hinduism had a renaissance with Raja Ram Mohan Roy, Swami Vivekanada and others promoting a much more modern and liberal practice. 

The problem with Islam today is that it is the youngest major religion and the only one that has not undergone a major reform movement from within. 

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Posted: 12 March 2015 at 7:18pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by .Sad.But.True.

Originally posted by -Aarya-

Originally posted by .Sad.But.True.

" Or restrictions of how one can't marry non Islamic beings or one shouldn't worship Idols makes the religion sound very narrow minded and not as tolerant''
As far as I know every religion says things like that. In hinduism people arent even allowed to marry outside their caste. Its unfair to call a religion narrow-minded based on these lines only. Yes, worshipping idols is not allowed. Worshipping is also not allowed in  Christianity, Judaism and abrahamic religions. So idk why you only chose Islam. If you actually read Quran then you would know that one of the biggest sin is hurting,insulting someone. According to Islam not even Allah can forgive that person who has hurt someone intentionally. The person who has been hurt is the only one who can forgive. Yes we are not allowed to worship and yes we have to follow Mohammad and Allah because thats the essence of our religion. If we do not follow these rules then we will be punished. Almost every religion has certain rules and if those rules are not followed then the followers will be punished according to the scriptures. If these rules make Islam narrow-minded then all other religions are no different. Although personally I do not think any religion is narrow-minded just because they have strict rules.


How much of a dept knowledge do people really have on their own religions beliefs? Where do these religion beliefs come from? What unique evidence is there for your religion or worldview on your religion? Can you prove that what you say about your religion  is true?

Just the fact that you believe in God is a narrow minded belief. If there are many gods, then, of course, it is a totally narrow minded belief to pick just one.  But, if there is only one God, it would be foolish to insist on more, right, so which is it, one God or Many? And if it's many which one is real...

Lol and atheists believing that people who believe in God are narrow-minded make them open minded? We all can agree that the universe operates somehow. There is has to be a power which operates it. For me God is that power. What is so narrow-minded about believing that?


I have already answered the question above .. (in blue)
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Posted: 12 March 2015 at 11:45pm | IP Logged
from what little I remember, scholars have compared copies of Quran today to those that are centuries old and haven't come across any changes to the text. 
the major se sectarian divide within Islam is political.. Shias were supporters of Hazrat Ali ..they wanted him to become the first Caliph after the death of Prophet Mohammad but obviously it didn't happen. .. 
Over the years religious differences have crept up bcos of interpretations of Quran and Sunnah ...Some take a hardline literal view and others have a more allegorical interpretation but there is no doubts about the authenticity of the source material ..aka the Quran
 ...but very many of these differencesare over Sunnah ...as in tge sayings of Prophet Mohammad ...his deeds ..avtions tc ... for instance ..tThere are over 25000 sayings of Prophet accepted as canon within Sunnism...but in Shia Islam, it's less than a 1000 I think ..


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