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Vinzy

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Posted: 18 June 2014 at 5:46am | IP Logged

What do you make of ISIS as a group? How do you see them as distinct from other violent Muslim groups?How pessimistic are you about Iraq? Old Saddam is looking pretty good , ain't he?

There were no/that much terrorists or terror activities in Iraq in 2003. There were people with radical Islamist ideas, but they kept quiet for fear of Saddam's torturers and there weren't very many of them. And there were no "weapons of mass destruction" either. It was an exceptionally dumb war, to borrow Barack Obama's famous phrase, and it began the destruction of Iraq.

Is it seriously being said that the revolution sweeping the Arab world would have hit Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Yemen, Bahrain, Syria ... but miraculously Iraq, under the most brutal and tyrannical of all the regimes!!!... Confused

These are the fruits of US destabilization.?!!! OR oppressive rule and a failure within parts of Islam to work out a sensible relationship between religion and Government have combined to create countries which are simply unprepared for the modern world.?!!!

Views and comments plz!



Edited by Vinzy - 18 June 2014 at 5:42am

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Posted: 18 June 2014 at 9:50am | IP Logged
@Vinzy- have too much to say on this, holding my thoughts for the moment , will back soon. Right now under football fever!
But whatever said , Iraq bifurcation seems like an eventuality now. 

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Posted: 23 June 2014 at 1:22am | IP Logged
Judge who sentenced Saddam Hussein to death 'captured and executed by ISIS

The judge who sentenced former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein to death has been captured and executed by ISIS militants, it is claimed. 

Raouf Abdul Rahman, who sentenced the dictator to death by hanging in 2006, was reportedly killed by rebels in retaliation for the execution of the 69-year-old.

His death has not been confirmed by the Iraqi government, but officials had not denied reports of his capture last week.

Judge: Raouf Abdul Rahman who sentenced former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein to death has reportedly been captured and executed by ISIS militants


The Facebook page for Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri, Hussein's former deputy who has emerged as a key figure among the Sunni militants, also posted that the rebels had been able to arrest Judge Rahman.

Judge Rahmann, who was born in the Kurdish town of Halabja, took over the trial of Hussein in midway through the trial in January 2006 after previous judge Rizgar Amin was criticised for being too lenient in his dealings with Hussein and his co-defendents. 

The father of three had graduated from Baghdad University's law school in 1963 and worked as a lawyer before he was appointed as the chief judge of the Kurdistan Appeals Court in 1996.


He oversaw Hussein's trial for crimes against humanity over the killing of 148 people in the town of Dujail following an assassination attemptin 1982, and sentenced him to death by hanging following the guilty verdict.

Judge Rahman had faced claims that he was biased as his home town had been the subject of a poison gas attack in 1988, allegedly ordered by Hussein.

A number of Judge Rahman's relatives were among the 5,000 people killed in the attack, and during the 1980s he was also reportedly detained and tortured by Hussein's security agents.

The judge later criticised the way the execution was carried out in December 2006, saying in 2008 that it should not have been carried out in public and branding it 'uncivilised and backward'.

The hanging had taken place as Sunni Muslims were celebrating the religious festival Eid al-Adha, and a video of the execution showed the former leader being taunted by members of the Shi'ite group.

In March 2007 it was reported that Judge Rahman had applied for asylum in Britain after travelling to the UK with his family on a tourist visa, claiming he feared for his life. 

He never commented on the claims, which were denied by the Iraqi High Criminal Court Tribunal which said he had merely been in the UK for a holiday.  


source:dailymail
History repeating itself once again...Confused

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Posted: 17 July 2014 at 11:24am | IP Logged
Another case of Frankenstein turning against its master, or in this case, funders. Saudi elements and Sunni groups were apparently happy backing ISIS in its nascent stage of uprising, and now they're reaping the fruits as it has publicly declared its intention to form an unified Islamic Caliphate and abolish all forms of monarchy. What started as a backlash against the Dawa party and Al-Maliki has snowballed into something of unforseen magnitudes. SO much so that, Sunni clerics are forced to bring out fatwas denouncing the idea of a Caliphate.
About the Naqshbandi Army headed by IAD, it is another interesting angle. This underground organisation had evidently existed from the time of Saddam himself, and is largely Sufi in belief, somewhat in conformation to the secular ideals of Ba'ath Socialists themselves. Its somewhat ironic how they have to latch on to their ideological adversaries like the ISIS to come back to power. Though I doubt that's gonna happen, reports are there that the ISIS chieftains and generals have already started turning on them, rounding up and even murdering many ex-Ba'athists. As is evident, they are not willing to take risks of any future friction or dissent.

Amidst all the brouhaha, Exxon and Shell reap the dough as crude prices shoot up and go beserk. LOL


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Posted: 08 August 2014 at 11:51pm | IP Logged
For me ISIS is no less than terrorist group who are on the verge of minorities genocide in Northern Iraq region.
They are on par with Boko Haram terror group.

No wonder no one will talk about this because non muslim genocide and muslim genocide can never be equal.

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They arrived bristling with heavy weapons and waving black flags from about a dozen Humvees, seized from the Iraqi army and supplied originally by the United States.

When the terrified residents looked out of their windows, they saw that Kosho, their traditional walled village in the mountains of northern Iraq, had been surrounded by jihadists. More than 200 bearded militants had besieged the village.

Then their leader - a local man from Mosul rather than the foreigners who make up more than a third of the ranks of the group now known as Islamic State - offered them a chance to save their lives.


Savagery: A man is crucified in northern Syria by Islamic State militants
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Savagery: A man is crucified in northern Syria by Islamic State militants

Fearing for their lives: Iraqis huddle around Ian Birrell as he reports on the advance of the Islamic State
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Fearing for their lives: Iraqis huddle around Ian Birrell as he reports on the advance of the Islamic State

He told us that either we become Muslims or they would kill us all,' said Falah, mayor of the village made up mainly of members of the ancient Yazidi sect. We offered money but they would not accept it.'

The deadline the people of Kosho have to meet is midday today. Since the residents refuse to betray their faith, it is feared an entire village of about 2,500 innocent people might be slaughtered in cold blood.

If we did not have families, we would try to escape,' the stoical Falah told me yesterday. But we have lots of women here and many children, along with all the old men and women of the village. How could we leave them?'

This is thought to be the first time these blood-drenched fanatics - who delight in boasting of their barbarism and posting sickening murder videos on social media - have threatened to wipe out an entire village.

Now, having captured first the strategic city of Sinjar, then a string of other towns and the country's largest hydroelectric dam, they are just 25 miles from Irbil. 

This thriving city filled with Western oil firms is the capital of Iraqi Kurdistan, the solitary success story following the disastrous US-led invasion of 2003.

As US jets started bombing again to protect Irbil, I found its churches, construction sites and parks packed with thousands of Christians and Yazidis fleeing the feared Islamists. Thousands more are trapped in searing heat on parched mountains to the west. The latest advance began a week ago when shots were heard in Sinjar late at night. Four hours later, the feared Kurdish peshmerga forces retreated, much to everyone's surprise - followed by 150,000 residents fleeing for their lives.

Horror: A black flag is held aloft as Islamic State jihadists execute a prisoner
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Horror: A black flag is held aloft as Islamic State jihadists execute a prisoner

Sinjar is an historic centre of the Yazidis, one of the world's oldest religions. Followers are seen as devil-worshippers by Islamic State because of their unique beliefs.

About five Yazidi and 40 Shia Muslim families were last night stuck in the city after failing to get out in time, hiding in fear from the bloodthirsty militants in their own homes.

I spoke to one Yazidi woman, living largely in one back room with her 60-year-old mother, two sisters and one brother eking out dwindling supplies of bread, rice and water while keeping lights turned off to avoid attention.

Her hushed voice quivering, she told me of hearing frequent gunshots and seeing Islamic State vehicles patrolling the streets outside. We are just sitting and trying not to move too much,' she said. We feel so scared. We do not know what to do. We cannot fight them and if we leave the house we will be killed or kidnapped. Afterwards, her despairing cousin, an engineer in his mid-twenties, told me in flawless English that their family felt helpless but could not mount an escape bid.

Wide-eyed: A Yazidi child, who has just been fed by a Peshmerga rescuer, stares into a camera lens
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Wide-eyed: A Yazidi child, who has just been fed by a Peshmerga rescuer, stares into a camera lens

Thirst: A young girl waits to receive longed-for water from a jerry can brought by Kurdish fighters
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Thirst: A young girl waits to receive longed-for water from a jerry can brought by Kurdish fighters

Lifted: This child, too weary to make the journey off of the barren mountainside, must be carried
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Lifted: This child, too weary to make the journey off of the barren mountainside, must be carried

A respected local leader told me how Islamic State turned up at two Yazidi villages last week, telling residents they would be left alone if they surrendered all their weapons.

At the first village of Qana, the militia then killed 32 men before taking away the women. At Hezan, the second one, all the women were reportedly stripped naked before about 70 men were shot dead. 

One terrified woman in her sixties jumped off the third-storey roof of her home, preferring suicide to seizure. Another, a newly-married woman aged 26, is said to have stabbed herself to death. It is impossible to verify such stories. But alarmingly, there are growing claims from a multitude of sources that Islamic State is kidnapping infidel' women for sexual slavery.

An official for Amnesty International who has spent the past few days with refugees confirmed that both men and women were being kidnapped by the militants: People fear the women are being raped and sold into slavery but we just do not know the truth yet.'

Seeking salvation: Thousands of people stranded for weeks on the mountain range near Sinjar flee towards Syria through a secure corridor opened by Kurdish troops
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Seeking salvation: Thousands of people stranded for weeks on the mountain range near Sinjar flee towards Syria through a secure corridor opened by Kurdish troops

The rapid advance of the jihadists combined with the sudden fragility of the previously-feared Kurdish peshmerga has led to massive movements of frightened people.

One army officer told of a battle last week in which his two Kurdish battalions lost 100 men compared with just 30 jihadists killed.

Everything they have is American - it is all the latest equipment with the big guns, the Humvees,' said the Kurdish soldier, highlighting the failure of America's $2 trillion attempt at state-building since its botched intervention with the British.

One activist said 61,000 Yazidis turned up overnight in a northern Iraqi town behind the mountains, then disappeared northwards the following day. A refugee camp holding several thousand people from Mosul since its fall in June emptied in one panic-stricken hour on Friday.

A Yazidi woman and a young baby shelter in Lalish, the religion's holy valley in northern Iraq
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A Yazidi girl who has escaped to the city of Sirnak, Turkey
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Plight: Left, a Yazidi woman and a young baby shelter in Lalish, the religion's holy valley in northern Iraq. Right: A Yazidi girl who has escaped to the city of Sirnak, Turkey

Many of the worst scenes are on the mountain range near Sinjar. A doctor there with 5,000 other Yazidis told Human Rights Watch that ten to 15 people were dying daily, mainly from dehydration. No water, no food, no rescue, no way out,' he said.

Resala Shangali, a 26-year-old journalist, spent four days without food and just one slug of water desperately avoiding the advancing Islamic State forces with hundreds of other Yazidis.

She saw one infant die of dehydration and have to be dumped on the ground by his fleeing mother, another two-year-old fall over and die of a head injury, then five old people die one night alone.

On the second day, a woman gave birth, then both she and the baby died within half an hour despite several women trying to save them.

That night was the worst because my clothes were covered with blood from trying to help her and I could not sleep,' she said.

Flight: Peshmerga troops helped escort the Yazidi away from the Sinjar mountains, using unusual vehicles
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Flight: Peshmerga troops helped escort the Yazidi away from the Sinjar mountains, using unusual vehicles

Trucks rolling: As many Yazidi as possible piled on to the vehicles yesterday - though many were forced to walk
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Trucks rolling: As many Yazidi as possible piled on to the vehicles yesterday - though many were forced to walk

Thousands of Christian, Yazidi and Kurdish refugees have lost everything and suddenly find themselves living in rubble-strewn building sites and crammed churches and feeling bewildered and betrayed.

Again and again yesterday I heard tales of families fleeing for their lives, many forced to pay huge sums for their survival to a group estimated to be the world's wealthiest jihadist gang thanks to kidnapping, extortion, bank raids and oil sales.

Often they were given a choice to pay money, convert to Islam or die. Among them was Elias Ibrahim, a Christian taxi driver from Mosul who earned $500 a month. He was told he could stay if he handed over $450 a month to the insurgents.

London calling: A British C130 Hercules is pictured flying tonnes of aid to the stranded Yazidi yesterday

London calling: A British C130 Hercules is pictured flying tonnes of aid to the stranded Yazidi yesterday

Attacks: Above the moment American bombs struck IS positions outside of Irbil can be seen
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Attacks: Above the moment American bombs struck IS positions outside of Irbil can be seen

Smoke rising: President Obama said yesterday that further air strikes will be made
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Smoke rising: President Obama said yesterday that further air strikes will be made

Twafiq Aboosh, 64, a wealthy hotel owner and farmer, was returning home when he was ambushed.

The Islamists forced him and his four children to lie on the ground with guns to their heads while quizzing them about their religion, then ordered them to leave their property without looking back at it.

I have lost everything,' he said.

Nearby, in a half-built car showroom I found a primary school head teacher, his father and several staff living with their large families among the dust and debris.

Although Muslims, they were targeted since they were Kurds - just as their people were previously victims of Saddam Hussein's appalling atrocities and gas attacks.

They have seen their lives spiral into sudden degredation and despair. These Islamic State people are not Muslims but murderers,' said Hussein Zeewer, the 37-year-old head.

They shame our religion. It is even worse than Saddam.'

Crucified by the Caliphate monsters: The only reporter inside the bloody Islamic State regime reveals their chilling brutality

- From Medyan Dairieh, journalist for Vice News

Given access: Medyan Dairieh, 

Given access: Medyan Dairieh, 

Like everyone else, I had read about the cruelty and killings that the Islamic State fighters indulged in. I had read of the beheadings, the horrific crucifixions and the mass executions this group practised, which has even repulsed Al Qaeda.

So, I became determined to enter this world and see it for myself. Of all the reporting that I have done in places like Libya and Palestine, this was the most frightening, most dangerous assignment I have had.

After weeks of negotiations, I managed to enter the city of Raqqa, which is the capital of the terrorist group in Syria, from where it launches daily attacks against President Assad's troops.

It was a surreal and a chilling experience, as I saw a regime of absolute control which imposed its strict sharia laws.

This is not some disorganised bloodthirsty terrorist group or makeshift army. They are very organised. Islamic State fighters ruthlessly beheaded Assad's soldiers and spies on the front line. Their decapitated bodies were brought back to Raqqa and displayed in the town centre.

The IS men gave me a horrific video of decapitated soldiers' bodies, which were left lying on the pavement in the centre of Raqqa. Some of the dismembered heads were placed on spikes.

They had prisons where they jailed people who had been caught drinking alcohol, and other small offences. I filmed young children telling me that they want to join the Islamic State and kill infidels, and I filmed IS fighters in gun battles against Assad's troops on the front line.

The troops were surrounded by IS men, with one telling me they will now receive no supplies unless they are air-dropped to them.

IS men have so many guns that they are now in a position to give them away to new recruits or as gifts to ordinary people.

They had heavy artillery that could target low-flying aircraft, and they even had Scud missiles and tanks, with which some of the IS men even did a bit of joyriding for the cameras.

While I was in Raqqa, the IS leaders told me I had the freedom to go anywhere I like, and film what I like.

Leaders' is not the right word, as IS does not have a hierarchical structure.

Starting young: A teenager who appears in Medyan's film for VICE news
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Starting young: A teenager who appears in Medyan's film for VICE news

All soldiers have equal status, and they are all paid the same salary of 30 per month.

I saw a society of peculiarities that you find in authoritarian regimes. Smoking was banned in the city, as was music.

So you never heard anyone playing songs in their cars, or shops or cafes. Women were allowed out, but they must cover all their body, including their faces.

Not all men are required to have beards, but all IS members must wear a beard.

The whole city was prepared for war at all times.

There were thousands of IS soldiers in the city, and they all carried guns with them at all times. They were ready to jump into action within minutes. Although the soldiers were very hospitable towards me and cared for me, they did not hide their ruthless ambition.

They want to take over the world.

I filmed one soldier, who said to the camera he wanted to see the flag of IS over the White House. Another told me: See you in Jordan, next time.'


source:dailymail.co.uk

What a horrible situation!Ouch

Who's the victim here!!! Remember ISIS are the terrorists who US/Eu governments wanted to go to war for in Syria, who the EU and US wanted to go to war on behalf of.Confused


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So the US finally takes action. The plunging shares on the Sensex woke them up.

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