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Who was the actual reason for Kurukshetra?

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Posted: 10 years ago
Hello everyone. Since we have already got the hints of Kurukshetra in Mahabharat, in this thread please give your views/answers to one of the biggest questions.. Who was the actual reason for the Kurukshetra war?(I am talking about who was the person for whom Kurukshetra was held?) Many people say Draupadi was the actual reason. (She is even referred to as "Satekkhaki- the one who is the reason behind the death of 100 men). Is it really Draupadi or is it someone else? Please give your views...

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Posted: 10 years ago
nope, draupadi was NOT the reason behind kurukshetra, she was just a catalyst. the real reason was shakuni's traitory and duryodhan's pride.
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Posted: 10 years ago
in my pov the real reason was dury extreme jealousy towards pandavas.nothing would have happened if dury would not have become blind in his hatred and jealousy and would have been happy with his hastinapur.his desire surpassed all logical boundaries and later it led to various events which acted as catalyst to the war
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Posted: 10 years ago
See, it goes like this - 
The tussle for the throne of HP started way before Draupadi was even born. 

Right from the beginning, Shakuni kept filling the idea to Duri about being the heir to HP, even though Yudi was the eldest. After Pandu's death, the Pandavas returned to HP. And Duri knew he was in trouble since Yudi was the jesht Kuru rajkumar. So, during childhood itself, Bhim got poisoned, and Drona favouring Arjun increased the hatred of Duri towards the Pandavas even more. Duri's logic being that the Pandavas are NOT really the sons of Pandu, therefore, they had no right to stake claim for the throne. But Duri completely forgot that his own dad Dhrit himself was conceived outside marriage through niyoga (let's not go there, that's a different matter completely).

Coming back to the topic, Duri's hatred for the Pandavas grew even more as the question of "worthiness" was also brought into the picture with regards to the yuvraj appointment. Yudi was clearly deemed to be "worthier" than Duri, and hence became yuvraj. Duri now wanted to konk off the Pandavas at any cost since he wanted to become yuvraj.

So, came the adharmi act of Lakshagrah (assassination attempt on the Pandavas), which resulted in the Pandavas going into hiding. Draupadi's swayamwar (where Duri's BFF got insulted), and Drau's marriage to the Pandavas only rubbed salt into Duri's wounds even more. Duri thought he had it easy with the Pandavas being given a barren piece of land, Khandavaprastha (as part of HP being split). Remember this - HP being split was done so as to avoid a war from taking place. But, the Pandavas managed to transform that barren piece of land into a prosperous kingdom, Indraprastha. 

By this point, Duri became increasingly jealous of the successes achieved by the Pandavas, even though they were no longer present in HP (THE most important point). 

So, he WANTED to take away IP from the Pandavas somehow or the other - the dice game (it is against Kshatriya dharma to refuse an invitation for dice or war, so Yudi accepted the invitation for the dice game). In the dice game, Shakuni used bewitched dice to cheat the Pandavas of everything they had (that still DOESN'T excuse Yudi from staking his kingdom, his brothers, and Drau - but the fact remains that cheating DID occur in the dice game). Drau got humiliated in that process. And then a repeat dice game was held which the Pandavas lost, and as a result, had to be exiled. 

Krishna was not happy with Yudi staking Drau, resulting in her humiliation. But Krishna was even angrier at the fact that the various crimes committed by Duri and Shakuni kept going unpunished as Dhrit was physically and psychologically blind. 

Also, Draupadi wanted her hubbies to avenge her humiliation (which she called "justice"). So, a war ended up being inevitable - only a matter of "when". Even after the exile was finished, Duri refused to return IP to the Pandavas. Krishna himself went to HP and talked peace, but even that failed, thanks to Duri wanting to arrest Krishna!! So war was the ONLY option in such a situation.

In short, the Pandavas and the Kauravas were ALWAYS at loggerheads with each other. Drau's humiliation and her subsequent call for "justice" only stoked the war-like situation to such an extent that it resulted in the worst kind of massacre and bloodshed ever seen. 

Blaming Drau for the war is completely unfair IMHO.
Edited by shani88 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
Originally posted by: shani88

See, it goes like this - 

The tussle for the throne of HP started way before Draupadi was even born. 

Right from the beginning, Shakuni kept filling the idea to Duri about being the heir to HP, even though Yudi was the eldest. After Pandu's death, the Pandavas returned to HP. And Duri knew he was in trouble since Yudi was the jesht Kuru rajkumar. So, during childhood itself, Bhim got poisoned, and Drona favouring Arjun increased the hatred of Duri towards the Pandavas even more. Duri's logic being that the Pandavas are NOT really the sons of Pandu, therefore, they had no right to stake claim for the throne. But Duri completely forgot that his own dad Dhrit himself was conceived outside marriage through niyoga (let's not go there, that's a different matter completely).

Coming back to the topic, Duri's hatred for the Pandavas grew even more as the question of "worthiness" was also brought into the picture with regards to the yuvraj appointment. Yudi was clearly deemed to be "worthier" than Duri, and hence became yuvraj. Duri now wanted to konk off the Pandavas at any cost since he wanted to become yuvraj.

So, came the adharmi act of Lakshagrah (assassination attempt on the Pandavas), which resulted in the Pandavas going into hiding. Draupadi's swayamwar (where Duri's BFF got insulted), and Drau's marriage to the Pandavas only rubbed salt into Duri's wounds even more. Duri thought he had it easy with the Pandavas being given a barren piece of land, Khandavaprastha (as part of HP being split). Remember this - HP being split was done so as to avoid a war from taking place. But, the Pandavas managed to transform that barren piece of land into a prosperous kingdom, Indraprastha. 

By this point, Duri became increasingly jealous of the successes achieved by the Pandavas, even though they were no longer present in HP (THE most important point). 

So, he WANTED to take away IP from the Pandavas somehow or the other - the dice game (it is against Kshatriya dharma to refuse an invitation for dice or war, so Yudi accepted the invitation for the dice game). In the dice game, Shakuni used bewitched dice to cheat the Pandavas of everything they had (that still DOESN'T excuse Yudi from staking his kingdom, his brothers, and Drau - but the fact remains that cheating DID occur in the dice game). Drau got humiliated in that process. And then a repeat dice game was held which the Pandavas lost, and as a result, had to be exiled. 

Krishna was not happy with Yudi staking Drau, resulting in her humiliation. But Krishna was even angrier at the fact that the various crimes committed by Duri and Shakuni kept going unpunished as Dhrit was physically and psychologically blind. 

Also, Draupadi wanted her hubbies to avenge her humiliation (which she called "justice"). So, a war ended up being inevitable - only a matter of "when". Even after the exile was finished, Duri refused to return IP to the Pandavas. Krishna himself went to HP and talked peace, but even that failed, thanks to Duri wanting to arrest Krishna!! So war was the ONLY option in such a situation.

In short, the Pandavas and the Kauravas were ALWAYS at loggerheads with each other. Drau's humiliation and her subsequent call for "justice" only stoked the war-like situation to such an extent that it resulted in the worst kind of massacre and bloodshed ever seen. 

Blaming Drau for the war is completely unfair IMHO.



Yes. I don't think Draupadi was the reason too and that is why I started the topic. But if we give the full credit(of war, i mean) to Duryodhan then the Pandavas are equally to blame. Coz, once WAR begins, both the parties results in each other's death and destruction. Duri and Shakuni has some hand in the war. But were the Pandavas not in action at all?
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Posted: 10 years ago
Originally posted by: warriorbrishti


Yes. I don't think Draupadi was the reason too and that is why I started the topic. But if we give the full credit(of war, i mean) to Duryodhan then the Pandavas are equally to blame. Coz, once WAR begins, both the parties results in each other's death and destruction. Duri and Shakuni has some hand in the war. But were the Pandavas not in action at all?


Okay...now comes the war itself.

Certain rules were made about how the war was "supposed" to be fought - war for each day ends at sunset, one-on-one fighting only, no attacking an injured warrior who wants to leave the battlefield, only warriors of equal rank can fight each other (maharathi vs maharathi only, atirathi vs atirathi only, soldier vs soldier only, etc.), a group of warriors will not simultaneously attack a single warrior alone, women will not be attacked, at the end of each day if warriors from both sides want to meet other in a cordial manner they are free to do so, etc.

But all these rules ended up being broken by BOTH sides. And, the Pandavas had the privilege of having THE greatest strategist of all time amongst their midst. Kauravas breaking rules of war is not surprising. But, Krishna's policy was that if the Kauravas could commit all the adharm against the Pandavas throughout (& get away with it), then what is wrong with the Pandavas breaking the rules of war itself? 

Krishna never fought in the war itself, but his presence was clearly visible. Krishna during Kurukshetra is a sight to behold (it is seriously awesome to watch him!!), to be honest. Kuch nahin kiya phir bhi sab kuch kar diya. 

I know it's a long way to go but I honestly can't wait for Kurukshetra to begin...
Edited by shani88 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
Real reason was one and only BHEESHMA
 
He shouldn't have placed his fathers Lust over the Kingdoms wellness under any circumstances. He would have been king and no scene of Dhrit / Pandu ... so no Kurukheshtra ...
 
All the adharm happened because of him only. Why out of the blue he committed to remain unmarried and promised not to be king? Instead he would have clearly told I would leave my position of king and become king and get married only if mata Satyabati tells me to do so. That way both his fathers lust at old age and kingdoms dharm would have kept intact.
 
If he wanted dharm, he should have stood against Drit instead of dividing the Kingdom. That was a disaster.
 
ONLY BHEESHMA IS RESPONSIBLE for the war and all the misdeeds happened. He was a silent watcher
 
Posted: 10 years ago

^^ Why blame Bheeshma who only did what a dutiful son would have done for his father whom he was meeting after nearly 25 years? It was Satyawati's father who made the atrocious demand to Shantanu to make his own grandsons the heir to the hastinapur kingdom replacing the worthy heir Bheeshma. Shantanu did not agree to that demand but due to depression was unable to carry out his royal duties to his kingdom. This is when Bheeshma took his oath to renounce his right to the kingdom. He further made the oath to remain a bachelor so as to rule out any risk of his descendants challenging Satyawati's children's right to the throne and thus satisfied Satyawati's father who agreed to let Shantanu marry her. 

Some people blame Bheeshma for not breaking his oath but what is an oath that gets broken! I would hold Shantanu responsible as his actions did not behove a King or a father. As a king the welfare of the kingdom  was HIS responsibility and not Bheeshma's who was only a crown prince at that time. Had Bheeshma not made such a sacrifice at that time, he could be accused of coveting the throne over his father's happiness.
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Posted: 10 years ago
the person to blame all this is on Sathyawathi...

her chotti si aakhe jo aakash ke ssare taare ko dekhkar Hp ki throne ka dreams dekha!!!! 😡 😡 😡 😡

the rest is in front of us!!!!!
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Posted: 10 years ago
i feel drithrastra was the one who contributed the most🤢.. 
i dnt held draupadi responsible.. she was insulted soo badly so it was bound to happen.. it was the mistake of dhithrastra who didnt take appropriate step when it was needed..he became soo blind in putra moh that he did nt stop his sons who were insulting kul vadhu..