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Posted: 30 January 2014 at 7:52am | IP Logged

Why  we  give First rank  to a mother in a  child's  life,   dad is also  Equally make all   Efforts for child , We ignore his Efforts and give more importance to mother , when  mother bear  child in her Womb  father   look after her , take care of her ,   ,father  arrange food for mother so she can give  her child  her  blood and flesh  ,that blood and flesh she gives her child that  is  made by those food which father is earning for  mother  ,  indirectly he is too  giving his blood and sweat   for his child by   doing hard work for a mother's comfort and her needs     , Then why people   Counts only mother  Sacrifice ,  when father also equally fulfils  his duty.   

Why people don't count his hard work  , Isn't  it   Double standard ?We say   mother  Nourish a life inside her  But we  ignore this fact that  father is nourishing  mother  and keeping her healthy so she can  nourish  that life who is  growing  inside her  ?

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Posted: 30 January 2014 at 10:32am | IP Logged
No   Reply...Why ? Ermm 
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Posted: 30 January 2014 at 10:58am | IP Logged
If the Topic is that Father's suffer a double standard (Not "Man") Then I'd agree to a certain extent, except the reality is that this "standard" and socially constructed norm of Women being Home Makers, and Men being Bread Winners is a product of a Patriarchal Society. You reap what you sow. 

I'd also contest that the efforts aren't equal: You can't compare two different aspects- nurturing, raising and taking care of a child- to earning money. They are very different in terms of dynamics, emotions, and bonding. The bases may be the same: To create a better future; but they are different in their composition, therefore cannot be equal. Emotionally, parents should love their children- which I'm sure many do- regardless of being a mother or a father: You can't quantify love. If someone suggests that a mother loves her children more than a father- that is where I would see a double standard, because love is love is love. 

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Posted: 30 January 2014 at 11:05am | IP Logged

Takes less than a second to shoot some sperm and make a baby. When the father actually carries pounds of flesh in his belly and then pushes it out through stretching the narrow passage of his vagina to the max - then we will talk. Looking after the mother is the least the father can do for all the agony he is putting the mother through. Even slavery for a life time won't compensate for nine months of suffering followed by hours of labor in return for one second of sperm squirting.

 

That being said, yes there are some biases against men and paternity. Women do suffer biases as well. There shouldn't be gender discrimination in parenting. There are both men and women who are great parents and both men and women who are terrible parents. The love and worth of parents should be judged by their actual actions in raising a child. However, comparing a man's efforts to actual  gestation and labor is just beyond ridiculous and absurd.

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Posted: 30 January 2014 at 11:24am | IP Logged
Originally posted by return_to_hades

Takes less than a second to shoot some sperm and make a baby. When the father actually carries pounds of flesh in his belly and then pushes it out through stretching the narrow passage of his vagina to the max - then we will talk. Looking after the mother is the least the father can do for all the agony he is putting the mother through. Even slavery for a life time won't compensate for nine months of suffering followed by hours of labor in return for one second of sperm squirting.

 

That being said, yes there are some biases against men and paternity. Women do suffer biases as well. There shouldn't be gender discrimination in parenting. There are both men and women who are great parents and both men and women who are terrible parents. The love and worth of parents should be judged by their actual actions in raising a child. However, comparing a man's efforts to actual  gestation and labor is just beyond ridiculous and absurd.



Why  Ridicules ? Ermm  ...You said he is putting a mother in all this , Which  is quite Wrong statement  ...Do  you Want to say   A mother don't want  to Experience  Motherhood  ? Every woman want to Experience it  ,So they willingly   chose to be Pregnant  ,You cant blame  a man for it , They don't  do it Forcefully   ...Does mother don't enjoy   Motherhood  , When  a  Mother see  her child  First time, she forgets every Pain,  They get  So much  joy    Embarrassed


And this is not Father's  fault that they Cant   give birth , If they can  ,They will surly willingly   do  it .Embarrassed  But they  do Their duty  By taking care of  Mother   ...I Think it's Equal to giving birth 
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Posted: 30 January 2014 at 12:45pm | IP Logged

My statements were hyperbolic. LOL That being said man's fertile sperm is the cause of pregnancy. No wonder you have women in labor cussing and blaming their men for their misery. Tongue

 

Also not all women want to experience motherhood or pregnancy. Many women do have children out of social pressure, religious beliefs or other reason. Not all women experience joy or bonding after delivery. Also only a fraction of men would choose gestation and labor if they had a choice and on the flip side only a fraction of women would give up the choice.

 

It is not men's fault they cannot give birth but in no way shape or form is supporting a woman equivalent to childbirth. Some physiological aspects aren't logically comparable. But we can discuss paternal affection and bonding in other terms.  

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Posted: 30 January 2014 at 1:46pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by return_to_hades

My statements were hyperbolic. LOL That being said man's fertile sperm is the cause of pregnancy. No wonder you have women in labor cussing and blaming their men for their misery. Tongue

They should not do it  , After all  they also have selfish motive in this , They want to be a mother  and want to enjoy  motherhood    ...So why  blaming   Husbands Ermm

 

Also not all women want to experience motherhood or pregnancy. Many women do have children out of social pressure, religious beliefs or other reason. Not all women experience joy or bonding after delivery. Also only a fraction of men would choose gestation and labor if they had a choice and on the flip side only a fraction of women would give up the choice.

That mean mostly  will not  give up  ,So  you  are agreeing on my point that most of the women  like this blessing  And want to Enjoy Motherhood  Embarrassed

 

It is not men's fault they cannot give birth but in no way shape or form is supporting a woman equivalent to childbirth. Some physiological aspects aren't logically comparable. But we can discuss paternal affection and bonding in other terms.  

Hmm  , you  are  just Saying  it cant be Compared   but    not Giving  any solid   Reason  ., I think it is Equal cause   It  is not Easy to handle a Cranky  Mother  and Take care of her and her need   So she can   give birth a Healthy child   ...That food which she Eat ,  A father earn  and give it to her  , That's how it reaches to a child , So  According to this fact    Father should also have equal rights  on kids  , Even courts  give  more importance to   Mom which is wrong , It should  be Equal Embarrassed 

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Posted: 01 February 2014 at 12:12am | IP Logged
Antisocial, Thanks for starting this topic. Nice to see more and more males speak out their feelings on how they find the society is anti male and how males are suffering double standards.
This point comes up more so because in the court child custody is default given to the mother and the fathers who fight for child custody are totally frustrated. Why are the judges and other authorities not trying to find who is the more loving person among the parents and the child custody has to be given to that person. if a woman for no reason slaps false case against her husband and lives separately and she has the child also, she is really affecting the future of the child also because the child could have had better mental growth when he/she is with his/her dad than with the unscrupulous mom. 

From time immemorial, men's sacrifice for the family and the society is never being told and what men need to do is taken for granted. Men have always been obligated to be the protectors and providers of women. Even if a man spends in bad ways, society expects him to be responsible for the woman's welfare. Even if the woman is not a responsible home maker, man has responsibility towards her. (Read Charles Dickens 'Hard Times') Till the start of modern age, men could be forced to go for war and till the start of 20th century the chances of a woman to be a bread winner is totally limited.

It is true a woman could find labor or pregnancy a pain. But if she doesn't want to have child, she has to take responsibility for making choice and speak out on what she likes to do. Complaining that she is forced to be pregnant is no answer. 

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