Jodha Akbar

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Posted: 10 years ago
Originally posted by: Donjas

I was wondering how many historical items have been lost forever to historians. One can only imagine what historical treasures were looted from Akbar's tomb when the Jats attacked, or what did Nadir Shah plunder, or how many historical books and artifacts were destroyed in the revolt of 1857.

I am willing to bet that 90% of historical records and artifacts have been destroyed in the turbulent history of India.
Had those records still been in existence what a more detailed picture of Akbar and Marium Zamani's life it would have portrayed.
One can only wonder.


Oh yes!Truly! Even if some of it was saved,most of it got buried or burnt during the British Rule. We have certain British authors' work as well. But i have been skeptical about the British authors peaking of Indian History. Nothing against them,its just that they usually wrote stuff in only one perspective. 😆

You know how our "first war of indian independence" (1857 a.d.) was addressed as "sepoy mutiny/the revolt/the sepoy rebellion" etc by the British. See the difference? Same logic applies.

Ofcourse,we have many exceptions. But one of my favourites professors always said "exceptions cannot be termed as examples"
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Posted: 10 years ago
Originally posted by: jodah



 Hameeda Banu is not a royal descended/royal blood  but her family is very close to Mughals specialy her father association with Hindal Mirza the youngest son of Mughal Emperor Babar.

Hameeda Banu is daughter of Shaikh Ali Akbar Jami, an Iranian Shi'ite Muslim also known as Mir Baba Dost is descended from the mystic/saint Shaikh Ahmad Jami of Torbat-e Jam in Khorasan. Hameeda's father is a friend & preceptar(military instructor) of Hindal Mirza.

The Humayun Nama: Gulbadan Begum's forgotten chronicle

 Humayun's marriage to Hamida-banu Begum who was to become the mother of the Great Emperor Akbar, Gulbadan writes, "The Emperor came to see her Highness, my mother (when we were encamped at Bhakkar). Shah Husain Mirza's harem and all his people paid their respects to his Majesty at this meeting. When he saw Hamida-banu Begam, his Majesty asked: 'Who is this?' They said: 'The daughter of Mir Baba Dost.'

In those days Hamida-banu Begam was often in the Mirza's residence. Another day when his Majesty came to see her Highness my mother, he remarked: 'Mir Baba Dost is related to us. It is fitting that you should give me his daughter in marriage.' On another day he came to my mother, and said: 'Send someone to call Hamida-banu Begam here.' When my mother sent the message, Hamida-banu Begam did not come, but said: 'If it is to pay my respects, I was exalted by paying my respects the other day. Why should I come again?' Another time his Majesty sent Subhan Quli, and said: 'Go to Shah Husain Mirza and tell him to send the Begam.' The Mirza said: 'Whatever I may say, she will not go. Go yourself and tell her.' When Subhan Quli went and spoke, the Begam replied: 'To see kings once is lawful; a second time it is forbidden. I shall not come.' On this Subhan Quli went and represented what she had said. His Majesty remarked: 'If she is na mahram, we will make her mahram.'

To cut the story short: For forty days the Begam resisted and discussed and disagreed. At last her Highness my mother, Dildar Begam, advised her, saying: 'After all you will marry someone. Better than a king, who is there?' And finally the Begum consented. His Majesty took the astrolabe into his own blessed hand and, having chosen a propitious hour, summoned Mir Abu'l-baqa and ordered him to make fast the marriage bond."

thanks for the details dear 👍🏼

Tabhi saas-bahu ki itti jamti hain. They both gave their husbands a hard time. 😉

Edited by ann2012 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
Originally posted by: The.Patthaaka.

Thanks jodah. This makes it more clear. Ann was telling me about the 40 days thing some time back. This piece explains it beautifully.



my pleasure dear 😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
Originally posted by: ann2012


Tabhi saas-bahu ki itti jamti hain. They both gave their husbands a hard time. 😉


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True 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
@ann2012 my pleasure dear i think Ekta should have started with Hameeda & Humayu love story then with AkDha 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
Originally posted by: jodah

@ann2012 my pleasure dear i think Ekta should have started with Hameeda & Humayu love story then with AkDha 😆


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Oh yeah! HH love story is full of action too! it would look great onscreen!

But then we would have to wait for 2 more years for Jalal to be born and then 2 more years for Jodha to enter his life and then 2 more  years for them to fall in love. Tab tak hum boodhe ho jaate 😛 
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Posted: 10 years ago
''I shall marry someone; but he shall be a man whose collar my hand can touch, and not one whose skirt it does not reach''

Hamida Banu Begum  from Humayunama

who says women in 16th century don't have authority ,power  ?
she had the guts
Bravo Lady Hameeda 👏
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@jodah

So nicely put.
As far your question is concerned, those who don't read accounts and ''generalise'' everything, have this dilemma. BTW, i DON'T have this doubt. 😊

Agree here with you.
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Posted: 10 years ago
BTW it is said that Hamida Bano's father was also a Seer and even Hamida Bano had the second sight, which it is said Akbar also inherited - and he was the last of the line to do so.
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Posted: 10 years ago

"A monarch should be ever intent on conquest,
lest his neighbours rise in arms against him."

- Akbar the Great

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http://www.badassoftheweek.com/akbar.html
this site has described Akbar's achievements with an urban slang 😆 innovative idea to educate the youth this way,provided the content is legit.