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Posted: 26 November 2013 at 7:13pm | IP Logged
ok another piece of info the inadequately informed CVs who don't even cursorily glance at Mahabharat don't have

Duryodhan DID have right to make Karna the King of Anga as Anga was under his administration and jurisdiction .

Dritharashtra did NOT declare him King of Anga . Infact Dritharashtra had  nothing to do with this decision .

And why was Adirath behaving like a sour faced self effacing bhikaari .LOLLOLLOL

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Posted: 26 November 2013 at 10:13pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by koolsadhu1000

ok another piece of info the inadequately informed CVs who don't even cursorily glance at Mahabharat don't have

Duryodhan DID have right to make Karna the King of Anga as Anga was under his administration and jurisdiction .

Dritharashtra did NOT declare him King of Anga . Infact Dritharashtra had  nothing to do with this decision .

And why was Adirath behaving like a sour faced self effacing bhikaari .LOLLOLLOL


Big looser that was who he was he did not even realize that he was working in a royal family and he was the sarthi of the KING HIMSELF. Apne Bhagya ko dosh de raha tha atleast he was not a Shudra LOLLOLLOL he was a Vaishya LOLLOLLOL

Wink but in real Mahabharat nothing of the sort happened. I am sure he would have thought himself as most lucky both to work for the king and to be a father of the Maharathi king of Angraj Karn himself. LOL

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Posted: 26 November 2013 at 10:41pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by koolsadhu1000

This is how i read it

Karna lost against Virata war , Chitrasena 

but

it is clearly mentioned in the Mahabharat that he spared

Bhima , Yudhishtir and Nakul . Even Arjun , in the Nagastra episode .



Karna did not spare Arjuna in the nagastra episode. It was his due to Karna's own false bravado coupled with Krishna's presence of mind that Arjuna escaped unhurt.

When Karna took aim with the Nagastra, Takshak came out of the astra and asked Karna to take a lower aim. But Karna refused saying a true warrior doesn't change his aim. 

Moreover Krishna too recognized the astra and quickly forced the horses to bend down. Therefore the astra hit Arjuna's crown / helmet.

Karna did not 'spare' Arjuna.

Karna lost to Arjuna- during the swayamwar (just after Arjuna won the conquest)
                                      Against Gandharva Chitrasen
                                     The Virata Yudh




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Posted: 27 November 2013 at 12:04am | IP Logged
In yesterday's episode when Arjuna said to Karna - "Aap Suryadev ki kripa se bach gaye..Suryadev ki Kripa hai aap par".. I mean what was that..?? Dead utter crap Ouch

Kya nonsense dikha rahe hai CV's..?? mood kharaab karne ka 1 bhi chance nahi chodte Angry

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Posted: 27 November 2013 at 1:22am | IP Logged
Originally posted by koolsadhu1000

it is clearly mentioned in the Mahabharat that he sparedBhima , Yudhishtir and Nakul . 

Not Bhima.  Like I pointed out, he lost to Bhima every time.  At best, his battle w/ Bhima on day 14 was a stalemate.  Only the serials bent on glorifying him show him defeating Bhima

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Posted: 27 November 2013 at 4:09am | IP Logged
When Karna took aim with the Nagastra, Takshak came out of the astra and asked Karna to take a lower aim. But Karna refused saying a true warrior doesn't change his aim. 
that was what i meant dear . He had  the full opportunity , he CHOSE not to . Also if Arjun had no danger from him and full guarantee of winning there was no need to

shoot him when he was out

blackmail him on the eve of war and try and try to get him to defect

take promises from HIM that the legitimate sons would be spared[ Kunti..no promises were taken from the legitimate sons]

his kavach kundalas were taken away strategically

sacrficing Ghatotkacha ...Bheema's sn was sacrificed to protect Bheema's brother

Promise was taken from Shalya by Yudhishtir to demoralize Karna with taunts while charioting him ...infact the wrong aim of the Nagastra is due to these taunts where he got tired and bugged


these things were done . Fact . He was killed when defenceless . Fact . I am not taliking of the justification of it as he did same with Abhimanyu ...i have other views on the Abhimanyu episode , i am merely telling of facts .

As i see it , Arjun was protected from him and if Arjun could easily defeat him each time , going to these lengths was unnecesary . But these lengths were exercised .

As far as Bheem is concerned , to my knowledge , he and Karna had a tough fight and he knocked Karna unconscious but Karna bounced back and killed his charioteer and if i am not mistaken deprived him of his chariot . I may be wrong here as my memory fails me now as i read it quite some time ago , but Karna cut his bow too and the Kauravas meanwhile rushed to his aid ...but that happened in a war .Arjun has rushed to Nakul's aid in the Vrishasen fight and many many times .

Bheem was a good archer too , not many know that . I agree that this Mahabharat has overshadowed him by promoting Arjun as the maha nayak . He was as powerful as or even slightly more than Arjun in war .

After the killing of Karna , Shalya has rebuked Arjun ...and it must be noticed that Shalya was no friend of Karna . Infact Shalya has refused to get down and take the wheel out of the mud , and he thought it was beneath him to chariot a Suta . He did it coz Duryodhan almost cried .

I believe as i read that there definetely was strong danger to Arjun from Karna . All the dangers to Arjun were eliminated ...Eklavya , Karna etc and a good deal of manipulation was often used to ensure his victories or superiority in archery .

But i have an opinion that Arjun was a good , mighty archer and absolutely fit for self realisation . Same way i think that Karna was indeed a formidable foe and gave them a tough fight . 








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Posted: 27 November 2013 at 5:38am | IP Logged
Originally posted by candidfrisky

In yesterday's episode when Arjuna said to Karna - "Aap Suryadev ki kripa se bach gaye..Suryadev ki Kripa hai aap par".. I mean what was that..?? Dead utter crap Ouch

Kya nonsense dikha rahe hai CV's..?? mood kharaab karne ka 1 bhi chance nahi chodte Angry


Apna mood mat kharab karo Read the real Mahabharat and Watch old one and instantly mood theek ho jayega I did the same. I was instantly like this Big smileBig smileBig smileBig smile


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Posted: 27 November 2013 at 5:43am | IP Logged
And the biggest blooper was Arjun lecturing Karna about ego when all HIS speeches reeked of egoROFL

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