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Posted: 31 May 2007 at 10:28pm | IP Logged

Originally posted by *guesswho*

Let's quit blaming religion here!
It's people that do the damage, religious ideas don't go out and bite people!
The issue is to weed out those people not a complete religion or anything!
There are extemists in every religion, we can't base the whole population based on them!

i dont think there's been anything said here about religion, just about the radicals who practise their violent brand of religion and go around blowing up people, whether it's in indonesia, germany, france, usa, israel, jordan, uk, iraq or of course india, all in the name of that religion. sorry if i missed some countries thereTongue

another point- in a world of infinite resources, one can take pains to ensure that no one is unfairly searched/ targetted/ suspected. but what would you do if you had finite resources and could check on only a few people in finite time? would you spend those resources on say a certain sect whose members have statistically not created as many problems? or would you target that sect from where you had radicals spring up all the time every day?Smile



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hmmm...i'd say indian muslims are really targeted...be it a bomb blast in Bombay...or any other terrorist attack the fingure of suspicion and hate is always pointed towords those poor ppl.

But can we really stop blaming religion here?...I agree it is the people who act and not religion, ....but it is also true religion is the root of most hatered in this world we live in.....and its always easy to make ppl fool on the name of religion

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Posted: 06 July 2007 at 5:28pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Maya_M

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And now the coverage of the families of the Glassgow terror suspects has once again brought the ordinary Indian Muslim in the spotlight.

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oh too bad. but it's like this. if you had a hundred bucks to spend on surveillance and searching folks, would you spend it on old japanese grannies or on this crowd? it's a portfolio allocation problem, that's all it isTongueWink



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Posted: 06 July 2007 at 10:29pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by angel_wings

hmmm...i'd say indian muslims are really targeted...be it a bomb blast in Bombay...or any other terrorist attack the fingure of suspicion and hate is always pointed towords those poor ppl.

Sorry Buddy, ab paani sar ke upar jaata jaa rahaa hai. It is time that IMs understand that the is a big problem and they thelselves must share a BIG portion of the blame. One of the problems with IMs is that they are trying to be more muslims than even Arabs, fundamentalism is widespread in the community. But the biggest problem is that for them their religion comes before the country, sorry guys that is unacceptable...like it or not.

Poor ppl? And who is to be blamed for this? Themselves, they can't bury their heads in sand and wish away the problem, they must reform themselves and adhere to the rule of the land.

And what injuctice and grievances? Remember Muslims ruled India for centuries...they imposed Islamic laws, converted millions of people, killed millions, plundered this country, made Buddhism vanish...destroyed our glorious haritage...do you see ever Hindus go bombing places and killing people?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_empires_in_India

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquest_in_the_Indian_s ubcontinent

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We have hoped against hope that it is not true. We have tried to convince ourselves that this must be a grand conspiracy of racial profiling — you know, White Man hunts for Brown victim. Happily unmindful of how bigoted and quick to conclusion we are when terror hits the home turf, we have wondered whether the British police are shooting darts at soft targets.

But now, we are almost out of argument and standing eyeball to eyeball with a horrible, inescapable truth.The man who rammed a burning car into the airport at Glasgow was almost certainly an Indian. And no, he doesn't have a long, flowing beard, he doesn't wear a skullcap, he didn't study Urdu or Arabic at a madrasa and he's not even from Kashmir. Kafeel Ahmed is an aeronautical engineer who went to school and college in Bangalore, before moving westwards to Ireland and Britain. His brother and cousin, both doctors, both also from Bangalore, have been taken into custody as well. The city that was famous for being the software capital of a world flattened by globalisation is now internationally known for other reasons. And if doctors and engineers were our most successful intellectual export, it is from their ranks that a new network of fundamentalists appears to have been drawn.

Glasgow may be several thousand miles away, but the lessons it has brought home are devastating and undeniable. The Indian connection to the terror plot in Britain has shifted the ground beneath our feet. It has taken away the comforting certainties that we had taken for granted as a modern, secular democracy. 

We all know the story about what a battle-weary President Bush asked Manmohan Singh in Washington two years ago. How was it, he wanted to know, that in a country with 150 million Muslims, not one had been linked with al-Qaeda? For years now, we have worn this singular fact as our badge of honour.

In just four days, it will be one year since bombs ripped through Mumbai, leaving 200 people dead. The warning signs were written in black and white even then, but we chose to look away.We have boasted about how the pan-Islamic radicalism that seems to besiege other countries is unknown to India. We argue that even the insurgency in Kashmir is born from political alienation, not religious identity. Kashmiri separatists have readily conceded that Muslims in the rest of India are mostly indifferent to their cause. We have looked across the border at our neighbour, with a mixture of pity and contempt, and felt suitably superior about how our democracy compares to its theocracy. Even this week, as India watched Pakistan's military use gunfire to drag out clerics, militants and so-called students from inside Islamabad's Lal Masjid, most of us were happy to caricature the conflict as a country caught in the grip of mad mullahs.

But what about looking inwards? Can we confront the fact that Political Islam may be growing roots in our own backyard? Are we brave enough to consider the possibility that the assimilation of the Indian Muslim has not been as successful as we like to believe?

For too long now, any discussion on the state of India's largest minority has been entangled in extremities. On the one side is the intolerance and prejudice of the Right, and at the other end is the patronising, politically correct blindness of the Left. There is the indisputable fact that ordinary Muslims in India live on the margins of development and economic wellness. Then, there are the 'secular' politicians who play self-appointed benefactors with one eye constantly on elections. There is the unforgettable blemish of the administration-aided riots in Gujarat. And finally, there are the fatwa-happy fanatics — the maulvis and preachers who drag their own people down the hellhole of hatred and are never condemned as strongly as they should be.

It's time to ask ourselves a blunt question: what exactly is this strange cocktail of contradictions breeding?

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Posted: 06 July 2007 at 11:12pm | IP Logged

If anyone doing crime..he/she should panish........Inside pak Lal masjid..whats happening....is it a terrorist camp??? I dont think anyone targeting here, if anyone doing crime, that people targeting, sometime its hindu or muslim ...if anyone do Crime agaist a nation we cal him/her 'terrorist'.

If you check inside muslim majority nations:

Pakistan----is it terror free???

Afganistan---is it terror free??

Iraq--is it terror free??

Palastain--is it terror free?

Indonesiea--is it terror free?

Sudan-- is it terror free?

Saudi arabia-- is it terror free??

Bangladhesh--- is it terror free?

Then People blaming india...........all place these things happening, Inside india also.............whos doing..........why?? whats the use??Embarrassed

So here nobody targeting anyone...........if somebody doing bad things that people are targeted.Smile

 



Edited by Believe - 06 July 2007 at 11:20pm

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