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Posted: 10 September 2013 at 9:07pm | IP Logged

1. Modi is sitting on throne of  a mass genocide in history of India . Riot is not some seasonal fruit that will be done every year. What is the need to polarise a  society when u r already in power,  where they already successfully done so and now it is time for just enjoy the fruit of that in elections by sitting just like in above picture  , so u r in government why involve or fanning any riots.  

2. In the major riots in UP , at Muzaffarnagar BJP MLA , leaders fanning the riot just like fanatics from their counter part. After all the vast experience of Amit Shah doing some work . But only thing is whole India is not Gujarat, people cant be fooled again and again with the same ram mandir, issues, same riots designs. 

Now it is time for to do it , implement the nefarious design  in other parts of India for BJP RSS VHP after all 2014 is only a year away  , so it will not be a  strange thing if we witness large scale riots in other parts of India..


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Posted: 11 September 2013 at 11:55am | IP Logged
Originally posted by ramjaane


1. Modi is sitting on throne of  a mass genocide in history of India . Riot is not some seasonal fruit that will be done every year. What is the need to polarise a  society when u r already in power,  where they already successfully done so and now it is time for just enjoy the fruit of that in elections by sitting just like in above picture  , so u r in government why involve or fanning any riots.  

2. In the major riots in UP , at Muzaffarnagar BJP MLA , leaders fanning the riot just like fanatics from their counter part. After all the vast experience of Amit Shah doing some work . But only thing is whole India is not Gujarat, people cant be fooled again and again with the same ram mandir, issues, same riots designs. 

Now it is time for to do it , implement the nefarious design  in other parts of India for BJP RSS VHP after all 2014 is only a year away  , so it will not be a  strange thing if we witness large scale riots in other parts of India..

genocide? If 2002 was a genocide, then what do you have to say about all the other incidents post-partition? School picnics?LOL 

of course, saying 2002 was a genocide is what they will have you believe in fak-ul-ar-ism. But just parroting something repeatedly does not make it so. Genocide implies pre-planned systematic extermination. People dont get inflamed in a hurry and then fizzle out in a few days... if anything, the Supreme Court found the mob that attacked the train as having pre-planned intent. but then we dont want to talk about that, do we?LOL

and now BJP is behind the UP riots? Buddy, what are you reading? LOL Do you seriously believe that the congress/ SP would leave any stone unturned if it was BJP? Is the UPA really that incompetent that even after having the CBI in their pockets, they cant nail Amit Shah or whoever if he was responsible?Ouch

See, we can all be careless with our speculations and come up with the weirdest of theories. But, right here we are trying to debate. So perhaps it would be more useful to apply some logic or facts? Any chance in high heavens you can do that?LOL

hey, how's it going with Sonia Maino? One hears she's been summoned for some outstanding business from 1984 Sikh genocide. Or perhaps for you that would be rioting, seeing who got killed and who was perpetrating it.

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Posted: 11 September 2013 at 12:59pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by BirdieNumNum

Originally posted by ramjaane


1. Modi is sitting on throne of  a mass genocide in history of India . Riot is not some seasonal fruit that will be done every year. What is the need to polarise a  society when u r already in power,  where they already successfully done so and now it is time for just enjoy the fruit of that in elections by sitting just like in above picture  , so u r in government why involve or fanning any riots.  

2. In the major riots in UP , at Muzaffarnagar BJP MLA , leaders fanning the riot just like fanatics from their counter part. After all the vast experience of Amit Shah doing some work . But only thing is whole India is not Gujarat, people cant be fooled again and again with the same ram mandir, issues, same riots designs. 

Now it is time for to do it , implement the nefarious design  in other parts of India for BJP RSS VHP after all 2014 is only a year away  , so it will not be a  strange thing if we witness large scale riots in other parts of India..

genocide? If 2002 was a genocide, then what do you have to say about all the other incidents post-partition? School picnics?LOL 

of course, saying 2002 was a genocide is what they will have you believe in fak-ul-ar-ism. But just parroting something repeatedly does not make it so. Genocide implies pre-planned systematic extermination. People dont get inflamed in a hurry and then fizzle out in a few days... if anything, the Supreme Court found the mob that attacked the train as having pre-planned intent. but then we dont want to talk about that, do we?LOL

and now BJP is behind the UP riots? Buddy, what are you reading? LOL Do you seriously believe that the congress/ SP would leave any stone unturned if it was BJP? Is the UPA really that incompetent that even after having the CBI in their pockets, they cant nail Amit Shah or whoever if he was responsible?Ouch

See, we can all be careless with our speculations and come up with the weirdest of theories. But, right here we are trying to debate. So perhaps it would be more useful to apply some logic or facts? Any chance in high heavens you can do that?LOL

hey, how's it going with Sonia Maino? One hears she's been summoned for some outstanding business from 1984 Sikh genocide. Or perhaps for you that would be rioting, seeing who got killed and who was perpetrating it.

Listen crap u will be at your best to drag a discussion into personal bickering as usual . so nothing new here. 

Yes you can only ponder like 1984 or 2002 which genocide is better , weather it is qualified as genocide or not blah blah. good.  Yes may be for you it is a kitty party of just 2 days where 1500 people murdered, rapes etc. U can ponder like everything spontaneous but what  can i do modi cant able hide the fact that major of the convicted in those riots were starting from BJP MLA, RSS , VHP functionaries etc. what can i do modi pr cant hide these facts. 

Regarding  fak-ul-ar-ism  yes u may have that nature and eager to follow those fanatics fak-ul-ar-ism  murder people in street . But sad for you that 80% indian who vote never support those ideas of BJP /RSS. Yes i will not target a human who have nothing to do an incident because he dont belong to my religion , yes you are free to have that intuition to support the idea hide behind a wolf mob to murder innocent just because they share a religion  of perpetrator what is that famous modi theory action reaction theory.. Even that riots restricted to Gujarat shows how people reject such nefarious designs.

Forget parroting , please carry on barking like this , as i found it is character of few modi bhakts to bark on internet by personal attack , after all the delusion will be shattered in few months. They have always the hallucination that who ever criticise modi is pakistani, muslim , congress supporter blah blah , even cant able to accept majority of hindu , majority of indian  never accept this fanatic politics, so ur hallucination is nothing different .



Edited by ramjaane - 11 September 2013 at 1:37pm

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Posted: 11 September 2013 at 1:43pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by ramjaane


Listen crap u will be at your best to drag a discussion into personal bickering as usual . so nothing new here. 

Yes you can only ponder like 1984 or 2002 which genocide is better , weather it is qualified as genocide or not blah blah. good.  U can ponder like everything spontaneous but what  can i do modi cant able hide the fact that major of the convicted in those riots were starting from BJP MLA, RSS , VHP functionaries etc. what can i do modi pr cant hide these facts. 

Regarding  fak-ul-ar-ism  yes u may have that nature and eager to follow those fanatics fak-ul-ar-ism  murder people in street . But sad for you that 80% indian who vote never support those ideas of BJP /RSS. Yes i will not target a human who have nothing to do an incident because he dont belong to my religion , yes you are free to have that intuition to support the idea hide behind a wolf mob to murder innocent just because they share a religion  of perpetrator what is that famous modi theory action reaction theory.. Even that riots restricted to Gujarat shows how people reject such nefarious designs.

Forget parroting , please carry on barking like this , as i found it is character of few modi bhakts to bark on internet after all the delusion will be shattered in few months. They have always the hallucination that who ever criticise modi is pakistani, muslim , congress supporter blah blah , even cant able to accept majority of hindu , majority of indian  never accept this fanatic politics, so ur hallucination is nothing different .

Happy barking.


LOL lol having one of those?LOL Never mind- sara ka saara ugal doh, just dont hold anything in. LOL When you are done, we will get back to the debate, ok?LOL

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Posted: 11 September 2013 at 2:11pm | IP Logged
^^ Do ur tu tu main main with anyone else , not interested in such dramas. 

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Posted: 11 September 2013 at 9:40pm | IP Logged

^ drama kiya tu. pagla giyai tu. Now you dont want to do drama. Didnt think that before you started with the gibberish?LOL

i think people like you need to be called for the careless use of words, and for the dangerous insinuations you make There's a difference between genocides and riots. If the Supreme Court did not consider 1984 to be genocide, then 2002 by no means is genocide. There have been far more cases in India that would qualify, most all of them with congress rule. Now you or anyone wants to debate why 2002 is not riot, be my guest. It will be fun, at least for meWink

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Posted: 11 September 2013 at 11:47pm | IP Logged
@ Ramjaane: Nobody is justifying any carnage. The Modi-centric debate lies on the crux of his complicity in the happenings.


Edited by krystal_watz - 12 September 2013 at 12:00am

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Posted: 11 September 2013 at 11:56pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by enigmatic_zephy

Additionally, on Congress 


a) Between 1950 & Jawaharlal Nehru's death, 243 riots were documented in 16 states... and for this governance' he got "Bharat Ratna"

b) During Indira Gandhi's rule (66-77 & 80-84), 337 riots were documented in 15 states... and this 'governance' got her "Bharat Ratna". Indira by far takes the shield for being the worst administrator of India when it comes to domestic security of its citizens

c) During Rajiv Gandhi's rule, 291 riots documented in 16 states, including the barbaric Sikh slaughter by his party's goons... and this governance' got him "Bharat Ratna"! And he gets another trophy for having the 2nd largest number of riots "under his belt", even though he ruled for just 5 years!

d) There were 1,194 communal riots documented in India from 1950-1995. Out of these 871 or 72.95% were during Nehru, Indira & Rajiv's PM-ship!

e) And for those who were stuck like broken gramophone in 2002, between 1950 and 1995, 245 (yes Two Hundred and Forty Five) riots were documented in the state of Gujarat. Yes, long before Narendra Modi!

Now over to the hall-of-shame worst 18 (apart from 2002) using info someone already computed for us:

WORST riot: 1947 Communal riots in Bengal | 5000-10000 Killed | Ruling party happened to be Congress

Riot 2: 1969 | Communal riots in Ahmedabad | More than 512 Killed in the city. 3000 to 15000 range in the entire state | Riots for 6 months | Ruling party happened to be Congress

Riot 3: Oct 1984 | Communal riots in Delhi | 2733 Killed | Ruling party Congress | Almost 100% casualty were Sikhs, which makes this a Rajiv Gandhi led genocide on India's minorities | Followed by "Big Tree falls" justification too from the Prime Minister!

Riot 4: Feb 1983 | Communal violence in Nellie, Assam | 2000-5000 killed | PM - Indira Gandhi (Congress party) - India's worst slaughter of Muslims in any single riot (just 6 HOURS)

Riot 5: 1964 Communal riots in Rourkela & Jamshedpur | 2000 Killed | Ruling party Congress

Riot 6: August 1980 | Moradabad Communal riots | Approx 2000 Killed | Ruling Party Congress

Riot 7: October 1989 | Bhagalpur, Bihar riots | 800 to 2000 killed | Ruling party Congress

Riot 8: Dec 1992 - Jan 1993 | Mumbai, Maharashtra riots | 800 to 2000 killed | Ruling party Congress

Riot 9: April 1985 | Communal riots in Ahmedabad, Gujarat | At least 300 Killed | Ruling party Congress

Riot 10: Dec 1992 | Aligarh, UP | At least 176 killed | Ruling party Congress (President's rule)

Riot 11: December 1992 | Surat, Gujarat | At least 175 killed | Ruling party Congress

Riot 12: December 1990 | Hyderabad, AP | At least 132 killed | Ruling party Congress

Riot 13: August 1967 | 200 Killed | Communal riots in Ranchi | Party ruling again Congress

Riot 14: April 1979 | Communal riots in Jamshedpur, West Bengal | More than 125 killed | Ruling party CPIM (Communist Party)

Riot 15: 1970 | Bhiwandi communal riots in Maharashtra | Around 80 killed | Ruling party Congress

Riot 16: May 1984 | Communal riots in Bhiwandi | 146 Killed, 611 Inj | Ruling party Congress | CM - Vasandada Patil

Riot 17: Apr-May 1987 | Communal violence in Meerut, UP | 81 killed | Ruling party Congress

Riot 18: July 1986 | Communal violence in Ahmedabad, Gujarat | 59 Killed | Ruling party Congress



Quoted for Ramjaane. LOL Do reply this if ya can.

Difference between "riots" and "genocide":

Riots: Spontaneous and disorganized reaction of an inflamed group of people against another.Is generally a result of knee-jerk reaction to on-the-spot provocation.

Genocide: Planned and organized mass murder or(in some cases) ethnic cleansing. Generally committed directly or implicitly by a form of authority, mostly the Government.

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