Posted: 10 September 2013 at 11:08pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by BirdieNumNum
Originally posted by karandel_2008
@Birdie: May be not about
education, but what about moral education? Its about controlling the
animal instincts and learning how to value people among other things.
Many schools teach ABCD, but fail to teach how to become a good human
And sure sense of impunity also has a big role, given either there is moral education or not.
@your earlier stats- yes Asia is bad when it comes to rape.
India has high rape numbers too. But you are missing the point that rape
incidence per capita is higher in many other countries than in India.
US, Sweden, UK, many of them far more developed and educated than
coming to moral education, they teach ethics in
some great universities. That does not stop people from doing the
unethical thing later in their careers. I bet the same people who have
been on their rape spree are folks who go to temples and masjids and
churches. Moral/ religious understanding did not help there, did it?
not just the schools failing. Societies are failing... And it's a
failing that goes back to the stone age as long as man has existed along
with their failings...
My stats were not to contradict yours. I was surprised to see they are claiming that 1 in 4 men in Asia could be a rapist.
stats from UK, Sweden, etc: I know, but you have to consider the factor
that their society is on the other side of the openness scale, whether
good or bad. Girls roam around freely at night, sometimes drunk, and in
general are very easy targets for criminals. Whereas in India rapes
happen even when girls' mobility is very restrictive and protective.
Also one has to check how many rapes are being actually reported in
India. In many places Indian police does not register FIR as it will
inflate the stats and could be bad for their promotion. Ofcourse, coming to start, one can ask is openness to be blamed as well?
moral education: Its better to do it from beginning rather than at the
univs. We have to teach our kids about moral values, but these days I
find that they are learning more of maths, etc. Yes people may still do
unethical things, but may be they will value human life more.
Machiavellian business practices are on different scale than brutal
rapes. Also just going to religious places and taking part in rituals
as one has to understand and agree to the values as well.
A person's core is made up of animal instincts. We have to find ways to control it.
Oscar wilde's devil's advocate says instead to completely give in to
it. However, one way is to discipline the mind and that would be through
training. This has to be tackled multidimensionally: building a better
person from inside through moral education and, on the other hand,
better policing from outside in case the inside thing fails (edit: or something like power, etc corrupts the person later). Just better
policing suffers from scalability issues.
Edited by karandel_2008 - 10 September 2013 at 11:20pm