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Posted: 04 September 2013 at 1:42pm | IP Logged
do you think such a situation like a gang rape could have been avoided? If the girl was a little more careful and not gone out to that place at shakti mills... a little care & caution would have prevented this from happening? Because the country is full of psycho rapists round, do you think a little bit of caution on the victim's part could have potentially avoided this situation?  

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Posted: 04 September 2013 at 1:55pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by shalini1323

do you think such a situation like a gang rape could have been avoided? If the girl was a little more careful and not gone out to that place at shakti mills... a little care & caution would have prevented this from happening? Because the country is full of psycho rapists round, do you think a little bit of caution on the victim's part could have potentially avoided this situation?  


Yes surely the woman should NOT have gone there - no girls should go to schools and colleges either - because that is also one place where gang-raps occur.

Girls should NOt travel in buses - else they might be raped like in Dec.16 case.

Girls should not travel in trains also because not will they get raped but also thrown out of the trains like it happened with the Mumbai braveheart.

Girls should not sleep in their own homes because they can be kidnapped and raped as it happens with so many poor family girls.

Girls should not live alone else the watchmen will come and slit their throats.

Girls should not sleep inside their own homes else their throats will be slit like Aarushi.

Girls should not work or go to offices or schools or hospitals else they can get raped.

Girls should not step outside for parties with their friends else they can get molested like it happened with friends of Reuben and Keenan.

Girls should not go to gurukuls else they can get raped and molested by Babas.

All girls need to do is follow these simple precautions and they won't be raped.


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Do we still think rape is seriously about caution and precaution?

 

Rape is committed by men who know that they can make excuses and get away with the crime. Let us not further enable them by victim blaming.

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Originally posted by return_to_hades

Do we still think rape is seriously about caution and precaution?

 

Rape is committed by men who know that they can make excuses and get away with the crime. Let us not further enable them by victim blaming.



hadey - this entire thread is primarily about how Women are to be blamed for getting raped - a brilliant study of "She asked for it" culture. And every now and then some GENIUS comes up to post some more of that inanity.

Tell me is this typical of DM? I've yet to see any genuine discussion or debate here.

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Posted: 04 September 2013 at 2:21pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by return_to_hades

Do we still think rape is seriously about caution and precaution?

 

Rape is committed by men who know that they can make excuses and get away with the crime. Let us not further enable them by victim blaming.


No, rape is not about caution or precaution... the victim is not to be blamed for this. Don't get me wrong. But since our policing, government and society - all three are highly incapable of protecting their women and are not able to identify these rapists till a crime gets committed, shouldn't we equip ourselves with our own protection? A little bit of precaution could have prevented such a crime? 

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Posted: 04 September 2013 at 2:27pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by -Purva-

Originally posted by return_to_hades

Do we still think rape is seriously about caution and precaution?

 

Rape is committed by men who know that they can make excuses and get away with the crime. Let us not further enable them by victim blaming.



hadey - this entire thread is primarily about how Women are to be blamed for getting raped - a brilliant study of "She asked for it" culture. And every now and then some GENIUS comes up to post some more of that inanity.

Tell me is this typical of DM? I've yet to see any genuine discussion or debate here.



Most debates on rape always have one side that keeps saying the victim is to blame for rape. They won't say it outright but will package it in euphemisms like she should have shown more caution. In the past we have had some serious debates against this archaic view on rape. Many members have debated strongly against such views. But by now everyone is sick and tired of the victim blamers I guess.


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Posted: 04 September 2013 at 2:32pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by shalini1323

Originally posted by return_to_hades

Do we still think rape is seriously about caution and precaution?

 

Rape is committed by men who know that they can make excuses and get away with the crime. Let us not further enable them by victim blaming.


No, rape is not about caution or precaution... the victim is not to be blamed for this. Don't get me wrong. But since our policing, government and society - all three are highly incapable of protecting their women and are not able to identify these rapists till a crime gets committed, shouldn't we equip ourselves with our own protection? A little bit of precaution could have prevented such a crime? 


Godfather had a good post earlier. What precaution? How much precaution? What should a dead body do to protect itself from rape " Auto combust upon death? What should an eighty year old widow do to protect herself from rape " commit sati?

 

When it comes to rape, the question of what could the victim have done otherwise should never ever cross our minds. The only questions should be how do we punish the rapists? How do we prevent rapists from making a joke of the legal system? How can we ensure that our streets are safe for everyone at all time of the day?

                                                                                              


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Posted: 04 September 2013 at 2:34pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by return_to_hades

Originally posted by -Purva-

Originally posted by return_to_hades

Do we still think rape is seriously about caution and precaution?

 

Rape is committed by men who know that they can make excuses and get away with the crime. Let us not further enable them by victim blaming.



hadey - this entire thread is primarily about how Women are to be blamed for getting raped - a brilliant study of "She asked for it" culture. And every now and then some GENIUS comes up to post some more of that inanity.

Tell me is this typical of DM? I've yet to see any genuine discussion or debate here.



Most debates on rape always have one side that keeps saying the victim is to blame for rape. They won't say it outright but will package it in euphemisms like she should have shown more caution. In the past we have had some serious debates against this archaic view on rape. Many members have debated strongly against such views. But by now everyone is sick and tired of the victim blamers I guess.




I guess that somewhere the mental exhaustion does come in. By the way read a brilliant blogpost on that topic today: http://nursingclio.org/2013/09/04/this-is-the-culture-of-sexual-violence/

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