Posted: 01 September 2013 at 10:58pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by indi52
Originally posted by Horizon
Wiwy, Ina, Indi, Durga, lovely discussion on the mother's suicide angle. Completely agree with you all. In fact the whole suicide thing was taken too casually in our show!! I too was also of the opinion it just couldn't be a suicide for the kind of values she was shown to have instilled in little Arnav. Honestly, more than Arshi's post marriage romance, it is becos of or lack there of this track that the "show ran its course" was much non sensical.. a track on which the male protagonist's character heavily relied upon... and where a normal viewer could see so much scope and potential but full time paid creative heads couldn't?!!!
last night i was mulling over asr... his character. and how the performance of that impacted the fortunes of ipk. if he had been any less than what he was, would ipk have mattered? would we have even bothered as to his mom's character and the whys and wherefores of her persona?
actually i think the full time paid writers were given the job of creating a hot young rich dynamic man with a "past" that justifies his mean arrogant heartless mien. i feel they just reached for some easy, standard ideas to make him.
a haveli in an ancient city.
a mother taken at a young age.
he forever impaired.
gun shot and nightmare.
frozen in time.
a girl appears who will reach his heart and fix him.
quite drama shama if you ask me.
the main story apparently was about the triangle... asr... khushi... shyam, the hubs of the beloved sis.
i wonder if anyone apart from the more instinctive and finer writers in the team (had a feeling ved raj was one of them... don't ask me why) ever gave these nuances much thought. a mother with a "sad" story was needed. a fabulous woman who committed suicide on a visually memorable spectacular night (we need great flashbacks) because of her husband's philandering seemed good enough.
anyway serial writers know, story must be "flexible." these "minor" characters can be pushed in any direction. but i do think there was a vague plan to return to sheesh mahal if serial was on a few months down the line, and resolve the mystery of the haveli (another great hindi phillum masala theme). and at that time, if not to restore maa to a more feasible character, to have the drama of chacha ji and family shenanigans and turn his whole perception of that terrible day, they'd work out a murder.
of course, she couldn't have killed herself. not.that.night.
anyone with a tinge of conscience can tell you that.
and really, if barun hadn't made asr the phenomenon he became, sometimes just with his voice (the same guy whose voice was seen as a bit of a handicap during baat), would anyone have cared about maa's character?
commercial writing. esp for indian television, is not a pristine wonderful thing... i wonder how many writers give a d. i used to hear of how gul khan is farming out scenes to arbit writers sitting in the us, in india anywhere during the desperate trp seeking days. no idea if all of it was true... just felt murky.
no iman no dharam in this cut throat commerce oriented milieu. if suicide sells, suicide... we know where certain serial makers have taken the story just to get "dum," trp.
we speak of rape. remember ansh of kyonki? so many serials have shown heroes doing terrible things... i remember the sick eve teaser who then became the devoted husband... but his father continued to beat his wife, womanise, kill and remained a favourite "star" of the show. and let's not even talk of the brother.
does anyone really care in the world of soap, if something makes sense or not?
but yes, i do feel, a couple of writers did. only because they are writers.
sorry if shouted too much. maafi.
maafi Horizon and Indi for putting my nose yet couldn't resist...
Indi that in blue...and Horizon in that red...totally agreed with you.How can a mother who was at that higher caliber and gave such nice directions of life has no direction for herself...can't digest it and never did.
There was a story of Sheesh Mahal,Chachaji,and even runway too but not the way they showed us...doesn't make sense...
Black underlined...as my sis was visiting me ,you all know...she mentioned me a serial...name is not coming in my head yet she opened lappy and showed me...Hero is a gunda of college and forcefully making family to marry their girl with him and he did...I asked the same question to me sister...what are you watching...She has a strange answer for me...so there are some sick who likes that stupid stuff ...but why do we have changed the PICTURE of our heroes...no clue...except it sells and money speaks...