Posted: 17 August 2013 at 1:11pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Adiani
Originally posted by smrth
Originally posted by Adiani
Smrthji, thank you!
You are again holding your ground with the knowledge of source.
I veto! VC does not feel he has the moral authority or stand to question Kumud's wisdom.completly understandable, Kumud knows without questions, she would be welcome to stay at Maika for life.(DV victims of our society, that is where support is lacking).
He did ask her to keep them in the loop though. It is only and only Kumud's decision to try and hold her head high.
Spoiler alert: Now I hear, he is planning to send Kusum along to keep them in the loop. Not completely deserted her! Nor is he rejoicing her decision.
Adiani ji, Hgg
Remove that RN Sundargiri sentence, and you would see, I have been speaking hoarse about objective facts of the serial- as they have been give out here
. And not subjective juxtaposition of 'our wish'. Alternatively- about them ( what 'should'), only reasonably admissible 'shock', 'prob', 'ask', 'interference' ( as against subjective what 'should') in the narrative as per scripted 'revealation' and not as per our 'knowledge'. As for 'prob' though i had already noted it earlier, even that I am not admitting as 'proof' of his 'desired' involvement at the moment- in an attempt to strictly stick to 'today's objective fact only. So how more 'objective' ( by serial) or less 'biased' ( by source) now I may strive is just beyond me. Please read again my overwrought explanation on P 15. So where does 'source knowledge' even come in this arguments, I am failing to see ( but for that off way comment, which I am proposing outward).
So admitting my 'inadequacy' I am moving out...
I'm retracting my comment on source knowledge as well respectful ji,(I can't help it, showing respect to your eloquence),
By no means I'm intending to say you are biased.
I do not have any source knowledge but I fully concur with your views.
VC's reaction was a simple logical thing to happen. Grief and shock at the outset, anger and corrective action will follow.
I get your point at not enforcing our worldly views on someone's action or inaction..as long as it within human principles and ethos.
My initiative for watching this show was purely an expectation of a definitive story and script based on a literary classic and hope that they dare not desecrate it.
I am only lauding the concurrence to source as and when you express it, Smrthji.
@ Bold...see that's the point...in my POV I am not enforcing my wordly views at all...In fact if you read my previous posts I have very carefully dissected out the context only as it applies to the VC character as he has been shown and only with what he knows...
My POV is that VC has to show more probing / corrective action...without that his character falls apart and becomes converted to a high trp male character...That corrective action was severey lacking...VC expressed tons of grief, No shock
at seeing his son in law passed out dead drunk and no corrective action...
(On the contrary he abdicated his responsibility and said I have no face and more or less agreed with kumud's decision) and straight away went to endorsement of kumud's decision...with a half-hearted attempt in between to make her promise to tell him when in trouble...which too he did not pursue when DB intervened.
Here straight concurrence to the source VC behaviour is contrarian and destroys the current character.
Smrths POV is that all of the above (without any more probing / corrective action) is the only
reaction possible within the same context...that VC has only seen his son in law drunk and a possible alcoholic ...but that's not such a big deal..and while he did make some attempts...he was stonewalled by kumud..and he's accepted her decision..what more could he / should he do
? ...and so his reaction and closure is appropriate under the circumstances...
Our bone of conetention is I expect a follow-up after the observation (probing, some intervention) before the closure & endorsement...specially because of the character as he has been depicted.
When I say bias (yes I stated that first ...but not in any impolite way..just that I could not think of any better word) what I mean is that smrth's intimate knowledge and internalization of the source in which VC was more passive is perhaps causing an alignment to his own POV..that what VC has done before his endorsement is just enough...
so let's see how this develops...did VC close in last epi or not?
Edited by hotdogg - 17 August 2013 at 1:20pm