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The Fifth Black Hole :-D ~INVITES ONLY~ (Page 129)

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Posted: 03 October 2013 at 7:36pm | IP Logged
This is for Heema and Kanan (so I don't get accused of ignoring Kanan) and Saumya too when she comes back...edit: just realized she's back!  Welcome back Sammy!  HugDid you swim with Raja LOL..I had a patient say something very interesting to me today...and reading Heema and Kanan's thoughts on gandhi and nehru, this seems so timely.
 
But this guy is basically a war vet- I think he fought in the Vietnam war.  But anway, he said to me that the reason India is one unified nation/country today and not divided into 3-4 different parts is because of the Brits.  He said the Brits brought a common langauge to India (english of course) and connected the different regions thru mass transit (railways).  I don't know how true the railway part is.  Initially I wanted to completely dismiss what he was saying but now that I that think about it, I think he's partly right.  My history sucks (so one of you correct me if I'm wrong) but before the Brits colonized the south aisan empire, the area was ruled by local governments- no central/secular government.  If the Brits had not colonized the area, I actually do wonder if there could have been a central/secular government ruling the entire country which is so diverse !  Somewhere I think the area may have disintegrated into different sections.  But I guess we'll never know. 
 
 


Edited by Walden - 03 October 2013 at 7:40pm

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Posted: 03 October 2013 at 7:43pm | IP Logged
Hi Dia . What a day . I hate funerals . Why people specially children need to give eulogy ?
Second funeral was at work . I said goodbye  to my both groups. Lots of tears hugs and kisses .
I did not use baby or my sister or my physical status as my excuse . I told them that these  group needs group therapy setting and I am not qualified . They now have  psychologist  and psychiatrist ruining the group they can Bill insurance company . But no one was happy . 
Very sad day. Cry

How was your day ? Do you have diagnosis ??


Edited by Heema22 - 03 October 2013 at 9:00pm

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Dia , what your patient told you is 100 % right . Brits did lot of good thing in our country .i am history buff and most of the historian give them credit for good changes .even my parents agreed ROFLthat because of Brits we are united country .rail roads, grand railroad stations like one in Mumbai , excellent hospitals , introduce English . Improved roads . Made tunnels through mountains .  Good university like Bombay university . Good colleges ,  they introduced higher education thru out the country . At a same time they looted India . It was our fault that they ruled us but when time came to correct these mistakes and throw them out of our country  our leaders did lots  of  of mistakes . Most mistakes were done for selfish reasons . I think that they could have prevented partition and all the violence during that time .  Without partition India would have been very powerful and Brits didn't want it . So they did lots of good and plenty of bad so take your pick . But never tell be to bow to these great leaders ! 
 Make time and read the book I posted . Most libraries have it l only one needed to know most of the Indian indendenace  war . Very interesting and no fabrication . It has lots of original pictures and documents .you will change over night  for good .


Edited by Heema22 - 03 October 2013 at 8:08pm

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Posted: 03 October 2013 at 8:21pm | IP Logged
saumya darling this is  for you Hug. I never get  tired of this song .
Kab aaoge -jism jan juda hogee kya tab aaoge
 Der naa ho jaye kahee der naa ho jaye
 Aaja re ke meraa mann ghabraye
 Der naa ho jaye kahee der naa ho jaye


 Aaja ve mahee teraa rasta ho dekhdiya
 Dar se hattee nahee najar aaja, aaja dil kee pukar par aaja
 Der karna teree aadat thee sahee, der se hee sahi magar aaja
 Aaja ve mahi teraa rasta ho dekhdiya



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Funerals- never know what to say...especially when the death is unexpected like this. 
 
Again this is me speaking based on nothing but it seems like the violence during partition could have very well been prevented but the partition itself- not so sure.  I don't think partition is always a bad idea.  People who want to live with a certain set of rules and laws should be allowed to do so.  And that sometimes means making 2 states/nations.  I mean what is the reason to keep them together- like you said- to be more powerful- but powerful against who- another set of people who may not share your values/culture/and religion?    But I agree, the hostility between the 2 nations could have been prevented and seems to have only been perpetuated by the leaders of the time.  . 
 
Oh god, I ramble way too much LOL

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Posted: 03 October 2013 at 8:29pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Walden

Funerals- never know what to say...especially when the death is unexpected like this. 
 
Again this is me speaking based on nothing but it seems like the violence during partition could have very well been prevented but the partition itself- not so sure.  I don't think partition is always a bad idea.  People who want to live with a certain set of rules and laws should be allowed to do so.  And that sometimes means making 2 states/nations.  I mean what is the reason to keep them together- like you said- to be more powerful- but powerful against who- another set of people who may not share your values/culture/and religion?    But I agree, the hostility between the 2 nations could have been prevented and seems to have only been perpetuated by the leaders of the time.  . 
 
Oh god, I ramble way too much LOL

 This is exactly what Brits wanted people to believe . They are the  one  who rooted this idea in our head . They started lots of fights . Let's not get started on Brits !! 


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Posted: 03 October 2013 at 8:30pm | IP Logged
You had dinner ?  So fast ?What did you make ? Lately I am getting 7 course meals. I am keeping her for good .my husband just send over one nice song . I  am  going post it .
How is your mint plant .?




Edited by Heema22 - 03 October 2013 at 8:31pm

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Posted: 03 October 2013 at 8:44pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Heema22

Originally posted by Walden

Funerals- never know what to say...especially when the death is unexpected like this. 
 
Again this is me speaking based on nothing but it seems like the violence during partition could have very well been prevented but the partition itself- not so sure.  I don't think partition is always a bad idea.  People who want to live with a certain set of rules and laws should be allowed to do so.  And that sometimes means making 2 states/nations.  I mean what is the reason to keep them together- like you said- to be more powerful- but powerful against who- another set of people who may not share your values/culture/and religion?    But I agree, the hostility between the 2 nations could have been prevented and seems to have only been perpetuated by the leaders of the time.  . 
 
Oh god, I ramble way too much LOL

 This is exactly what Brits wanted people to believe . They are the  one  who rooted this idea in our head . They started lots of fights . Let's not get started on Brits !! 


 
But I don't think the idea is wrong...that's what I meant in my original comment- before the brits, Its not like the subcontinent was living as "one nation."  as far as I know, there were always battles between kingdom's and all- so what makes us think that we all suddenly would have united into one secular nation?  If it wasn't for the brits, maybe we would be divided into 10 different nations instead of 3.   I don't think we can say that India would be more powerful if it wasn't divided either.  Maybe it would be more efficient if it was divided even further ROFL 

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