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smrth Goldie

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Posted: 14 August 2013 at 2:48pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by *Reemz*

I think you guys are letting the offscreen speculations getting to your views on the episode way too much. Utkarsh has been writing the episodes and he has not been informed of the show ending so why would he pen any scenes to suggest they're closing anything up? Secondly, I thought last week was FANTASTIC! So powerful. You can't have an intense Saras-Kumud scene in every episode otherwise it loses its essence. They have to come at the right time to have the right effect.

Everyone was loving last weeks episodes but unfortunately the speculations behind the scenes ONCE AGAIN are effecting peoples views this week.  What is so terrible about the episodes that one has to think so negatively? 

Nothing in the show has been shown half-heartedly to suggest that things are being twisted for TRPs. You have your high-drama days and some days are more relaxed.

It's a shame but seeking for positivity in this forum is almost like finding water in the desert at times.

And unfortunately, its becoming increasingly difficult to find tolerance to other's views in your posts either @ Reemz. Would you please permit some less stringent insistence on finding positivity water only even in actual 'deserting' time? For I do respect and value your views and posts both- else I would not have bothered to respond.Ouch

Edited by smrth - 14 August 2013 at 2:52pm

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*Reemz* IF-Stunnerz

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Posted: 14 August 2013 at 3:22pm | IP Logged
^I think you took it too personally. I've lessened my posts in the forum anyway for a few reasons, negativity being one of them but if my search for some positivity is seen as intolerance...I apologise and won't be here from now on.
smrth Goldie

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Posted: 14 August 2013 at 3:31pm | IP Logged
That would be other way round... I have not been speaking over me in perticular, but 'Shame' is not a very nice censure to encounter, won't you agree? But now you are taking it personally, ' not being here.' That's a loss, I would not incur on my account. Please forgive me. And please keep visiting this thread in perticular. I insist, even if I have no right. And please notice. This is Arshi's thread. You oughtn't deprive this thread of your much better insight on account of a stranger's somewhat 'charged' response. For which I again apologise. Please take it sincerely. Reemz. Request.

Edited by smrth - 14 August 2013 at 3:33pm

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*Reemz* IF-Stunnerz

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Posted: 14 August 2013 at 3:42pm | IP Logged
Please don't apologise to me. When I said 'shame', I didn't mean the 'I am ashamed' of people for thinking negatively. It was a 'Shame, I wish people enjoyed the episodes more'. Because after watching the episode, I'm usually either all pumped up or in a thinking mood like I was today but then what I read brushed away any excitement :(

I don't get the chance to post here often anyway, you guys & arshi make the thread what it is & I genuinely enjoy reading everyone's thoughts. Once again, please don't apologise.

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Arshics IF-Sizzlerz

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Posted: 14 August 2013 at 7:21pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by hotdogg

not to be too cynical...but it definitely looks like that arshi..

Also even now a sep-end scenario is still on the table...the new PH could also do this for free / reduced charges...the infrastructure / set is ready and paid up for by SLB / SP..and which is like an empty airline seat which is useless for the airline once the plane's taken it / SP could simply pay a rental to SLB/ SP...and finish the story...

sort of a top-up..since it wants its show ...IPK2 ...with SP...remember our earlier discussions on TRPs...the PH has a product ready and wants a buyer...and SP is a big buyer with a legacy of IPK to boot!

...coz all said and done both SP &SLB had at one stage staked their prestige on this show...from a legacy point of view they would want it to at least end and not remain a noticeable failure which it would be if it ended abruptly...

on obligations...there is no business like show business!!!...if obligations made at the start mattered to all parties responsible for this debacle we would not be in this state today!


Hogg, continuing with your prev post here.

Re: BDs change of mind, was it just to show him in a sympathetic light? 

or was it laying grounds for a quick end? in case pramaad does die, and the show has to be wrapped

 up in a couple of months, a remorseful BD, who also suspects the truth about Navin, will then

 personally push for Saras Kumud marriage, making all the TRP aunties very happy, and making

 everything neat and tidy. 

Bringing Umess back yesterday - is this also a part of above? To completely reinstate Saras in the

 eyes of the Desais, by exposing that he did reach the Mandap in time, so that they too can bless this


Dukhbas sudden halla Bol could also be the way to answer the samaj who will raise fingers against 

widhwa vivah. Again getting popular votes for SP, yet keep Kumud out of the equation, who can then

be shown to marry Saras by full blessings and support of family. 

SP can then happily boast of nai soch, yet keep all the mummies and aunties happy, because Kumud 

to the end remains a bechari dutiful beti/ bahu, towing the Sanskar line!

And we? We deal with it and move on! 

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Arshics IF-Sizzlerz

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Posted: 14 August 2013 at 7:32pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by smrth

Dugba'!Confused Her re 'awakening', is an eyesore disfigurement of source nuances, that even a casual reader would have noticed. Lousy. It unnecessarily fogs one of the strongest aspect of the original- Guniyal. But how bogus? For all din DB elicits, she is only messing up. A noisome adaption, much better if we would have been spared. But more humbug, real mother is noticeably kept aside. Why? Here she is, broadly mentioned as real life line of the clan; discreet, prudent and sharp. Why do they write her suddenly so off in case of her own daughter?? Did they forget, how natural Real Mothr-Daughter always come through?... But no. They gotta have Kumud's 'baby' rush to pseudo mother! As real parents were watching a 'drama'.OuchAnd a spurious melodrama, at that.Dead But unwittingly it reflects bent of the things that appears on card. Changes and shifts everywhere. Less sensible and more 'claps'. While real Potential and good sensibilities, 'go take a back seat.' Here are formulae, presumablySleepy fitter for instant TRPs and channels's GEC ratings. Welcome cacophony- as she makes good rattling sounds,'dug dug' ba.
And NavinSaras. He is fitting the bill. Trouble inventor. Until he effects a 'rescue'.Ouch

So agree with you smrth, dug dug ba, priceless

I remember you being bothered her being referred to as Dugba, instead of dukhba! Now we can treat that as a flash of brilliance and not an error! 

It had TRP pleasing written all over it! And such a contrast to PMS night, it was Guniyal's unquestioning faith that Kumud couldn't face, not dukhbas loud proclamations of Meri Kumud. 

And it was Gun's pragmatic handling of the issue that gave Kumud the desired peace, dukhba was kept out of that scene completely, and how powerful that was! 

All this dhol bajana, very TRP! 

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Posted: 14 August 2013 at 7:40pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by shana0127

2 month extension means november end coz...till september end they already had contract so plus two month means November end

still i am not happy we need at least a year to actually have a valid end

i too dont want it to be dragged now as its going really well and if it ends by february then we have a whole story  coming to a logical happy ending

I am glad you put both logical and happy together Shana! Logical is a critical keyword here Shana 

Edited by arshicritic - 14 August 2013 at 7:41pm

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hotdogg Senior Member

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Posted: 14 August 2013 at 7:57pm | IP Logged

your posts though less in number are insighful...

love the effort you made to reach out to jennifer and help sort out all the bad press some time back..

some of us here often discuss and go many layers deeper than what is portrayed, try frameworks to explain character behaviours, take off-beaten tracks  - both on the characters and the story / track etc...

If you have followed these threads - I trust you will agree that most of us devote so much time and bandwidth (both intellectual, from personal & professional time) simply because we are passionately and emotionally involved in this show - and as per our families & friends,  sometime excessively so Wink.

We have always been an outspoken group - both on the positive and negative aspects of the group.

So here I trust you are mistaken - its not that knowing about off-screen world is impacting our understanding of a first-rate epi.

Its the other way around. The epis are starting to fray on
- the overall track logic
- speed of the track (introduction of key elements of Act 3 right now)
- missing of critical tracks in Act 2
- track deviations / additions  

This is leading to major deviations from the original work, unfortunately very noticably to some of us who have internalized the show so much (Iwould be part of this category) & know so much about the original work (smrth)

The only reason this can be explained is unfortunately by the off screen reality.

While your point is duly noted - "Lets give this show & new PH sometime".
and we are not bashing...this is simply free-wheeling discussion among us ...

We have experienced off-screen reality impacting the show earlier when SLB was trying to garner to TRPs. We were very vocal at that time too. Then he veered back to the story which is when we got the best set of epis - and now we are experiencing a sense of deja-vu.

While a democratic right to freely express, supported by the simultaneous right to agree / disagree embodied in Arshi has been our guiding principle - we sometimes agree to disagree and park our strong POVs for the future to prove / disprove. We also stand up later and admit we were wrong too.

The moot point being we all continue to contribute, discuss and learn from each other.

So do continue to post...

And lets regroup in the near future to see which of us was correct...
Thumbs Up

Edited by hotdogg - 14 August 2013 at 8:03pm

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