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Posted: 23 October 2013 at 9:47am | IP Logged
@ Anu ! That's a positive view u gave ! But what jodha means by love is love form a herd of 1000 people ! Wacko
He knows better that Hamida, salima , ruq (in a twisted way) are his loyals and so are some o his ministers like chug tai khan !

How the heck does she expect him to live a 100% safe life is beyond my valid thoughts lol !

If your father was such a loyal king and people lover (He is ! No doubt) why did sujamal whom u loved and trusted so much do this to him ? Bharmal was unjust to him and sujamal to her and amer by joining Mughals ??

It's just that blatant attitude with which she tramps that her amer life was perfect ! Everyone loves Jo baby and her phamily ! Ermm

The truth is in the rule of nature ! There cannot be more than one ruler ! Be it Jalal of India of lion in the jungle !
Power doesn't come at great heights without nerves of steel ! Geek

It's a very good debate like u said ! It's the crux of the story ! This clash of ideals- more so between what defines a king and politics !
It's just that the lines she said made no impact to me whatso ever :( !

They make her rant abt honesty , and she blatantly lies abt not caring for him ?

Someone said true that third time is final ! Today many fans got snapped like me when third time she hurts Jalal ! Sleepy

Just becaus jodha has time to become queen they will show her so blind ?! Who doesn't have an ounce of knowledge abt politics ? Jodha is said to be Jalal ki main women consort who controlled his part of business and had exclusive rights no other women in Mughal history had !

They really need to kick start her process of atleast understanding someone ka POV if not agree !

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Posted: 23 October 2013 at 9:48am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Autumn_Rose



someone please sue the CVs for ruining jodha's character and turning jalal into a roadside romeo.. now he wants to see her dance.. after all the mean things she said to him.Angry


Haan ! Jodha is highly stagnant with her prejudice and Jalal calm as a cucumber ! Angry LOL

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Posted: 23 October 2013 at 9:53am | IP Logged
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Loved my serious Jallu today - so what if his topi was a bit tedi...his aura, the manner in which he was sitting 'Ufff!'Day Dreaming
His dialogues -
'Why fret over something that's not happened!'
'Atgah Sahab ham shehenshah hain!'
'ATGAH SAHAB!' 
'I will only return after what I've come here and set to do!' [For a second it almost sounded like he was going to say 'Sukanya se shaadi!'LOL Then I slapped myself and corrected it 'Sukanya ki shaadi! However, he'd be much happier had he wedded Suks me thinks nowStern Smile]

HB-MA
'You're worried about Sukanya's wedding and not about your own son?'MA asks.
'So what if you've nursed him...I'm his birth-mother...' HB  gave back 'I am as concerned about him as you are! The enemy could have been from Amer or from Agra! In fact, these attacks started well before we'd reached Amer...the fact that Hawai is Jalal's favourite pet is more known to Agra-ites than Amer-ites'Clap
[WOW...so many sensible dialogues within the first 5 minutes - well, I thought too soon!]

Seems like today is giving-back day!!! LOL
Jalal was angry - gave it back to Atgah!
Bharmal angry - gave it back to sons!
Shareef-AK angry - gave it back to each other!
Jo gave it back to Ja!

AK
'I'd thought of a right plan...only that silly Hawai ruined it all!' [Ermmm wasn't that the basic fault - Hawai WAS the plan? Ak you really have stopped thinking, haven't you?LOL]

JA-JO
'I don't trust anyone, not even myself!'
[Awww...you can trust us harem-waasis!]
'Your life is in danger...can't you see how many attempts have been made on your life' she asks him to return [and for a second I thought she was showing concern!]
'Are you worried for me?' for a moment there, his expression mellowed down to one of hope
[GRRR I could have screamed through my laptop when] she replied 'No...I'm worried for Sukanya's wedding...if something happened to you, then Sukanya's wedding will get stopped'
[Ya Right! and what about the entire North India and the Northern states that'll be thrown into instant turmoil! the hundreds of thousands of lives...CVs...just when I praise you lot, you end up disappointing me by portraying Jo thus! 
HOW selfish she sounded here when she went on and on about Amer!]

I was SO happy when Jalal at least opened his mouth - how hurt he was!
Gritting his teeth, he replied 'Only the man who wears this Taj will understand the burden it carries with it!'

I officially hated Jodha because of her following dialogues today! Here her husband's life was in danger, he's done everything he could for her family and for her, gone to the temple for her sake...and YET she asks him to return for the sake of HER family and then taunts him by saying she pitied him for his loneliness!
'What a life you have...I pity you...you can trust none...you can love none...you take care of your own life! I don't want anything to do with it!' [WatConfused]

Not an ounce of respect or concern for him - just plain rebuke!How sad I felt for him!

So disappointed was I by that scene, that I couldn't even enjoy the following Mehendi scene!

I didn't want Jalal to be observing her Mehendi chup chupke! Grrr...He should have been angry with her. 

SAALI-JEEJASA 
Cute as usual! 
'Aap sab Jodha Begum ki behenen hai...aapse tho darnaa hi padega'

'N-ar-it-hya' LOL [Strange how he's never had issues with other hindi words before..is it because this is Sanskrit?]

PRECAP
ya Ya it was adorable all right...but, would have been much more enjoyable for me had Jo just shut her mouth in that pagdi scene!
I don't like this Majnu Jalal...this is not what I signed up for...Confused


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Posted: 23 October 2013 at 9:54am | IP Logged
@Khush: LOL you can call it positive, negative, whatever...but I did think the scenes were interesting.

Doesn't mean I'm justifying Jodha's blatant lying...it irritated me too and it's quite irrational to show her being so OBVIOUSLY hypocritical...but I guess they want to keep the clashes going so they put in contrived dialogues like this about her Amer and Baapusaa jaap.

As for the love bit...she may have said it in whatever manner, but it hit home as far as Jalal was concerned...he was HURT when she said that...the man who claims he doesn't have a heart with which to love was hurt when Jodha told him no one loves him...I think it can be interpreted both ways...not just the love of his subjects...

I think the scene had a lot of undercurrents...Jalal indirectly these days is always yearning for signs of concern and affection from Jodha...and Jodha shows her concern indirectly too...but when asked directly, she lies using her usual excuses...they both have major ego...Jodha much more than Jalal...and this is how they navigate the minefield of their feelings...Jodha never DIRECTLY admits her concern for him...bratty queen that she is.

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Posted: 23 October 2013 at 9:57am | IP Logged
Khush mwah! Word to word girl...word to word!

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Posted: 23 October 2013 at 10:03am | IP Logged
Episode Review: 23/10/2013
Ameris are all soo proud of their javaisa Big smile... Bharmal saying that he learns soo much from Jalal even though Jalal is younger than him..Smile

Jodhaaa!!.. what should I do about you??.. I will give you till end of this amer track.. if there is no significant change in her.. I will give up on her.. OuchErmm

Jalal was the sher .. with his comeback reply..he doesn't needs anyone's pity Big smileApprove

All of Jodha's family has only one name on their lips...Jalal EmbarrassedLOL

Loved Jalal's scene with the saalis.. and the word  'Nritya'.. EmbarrassedLOL

Precap: Jalal's loverboy looks Day Dreaming... 

Star of the episode: My Jallu EmbarrassedDay Dreaming


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Posted: 23 October 2013 at 10:04am | IP Logged

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Posted: 23 October 2013 at 10:13am | IP Logged
Originally posted by AreYaar

@Khush: LOL you can call it positive, negative, whatever...but I did think the scenes were interesting.

Doesn't mean I'm justifying Jodha's blatant lying...it irritated me too and it's quite irrational to show her being so OBVIOUSLY hypocritical...but I guess they want to keep the clashes going so they put in contrived dialogues like this about her Amer and Baapusaa jaap.

As for the love bit...she may have said it in whatever manner, but it hit home as far as Jalal was concerned...he was HURT when she said that...the man who claims he doesn't have a heart with which to love was hurt when Jodha told him no one loves him...I think it can be interpreted both ways...not just the love of his subjects...

I think the scene had a lot of undercurrents...Jalal indirectly these days is always yearning for signs of concern and affection from Jodha...and Jodha shows her concern indirectly too...but when asked directly, she lies using her usual excuses...they both have major ego...Jodha much more than Jalal...and this is how they navigate the minefield of their feelings...Jodha never DIRECTLY admits her concern for him...bratty queen that she is.
@ bold WORD anu! Clap I know it hit home... Jalal felt the pain, but its just the way jodha puts it across! Confused
Like seriously ? Just cause a king is attacked you mean to say everyone hates him? Ermm Well, your father should not be ruling on earth than pretty lady?! Cause he too got attacked by his own kin?
That is why I wish Jalal told her... that if you could chose a perfect life, you would NOT be in my destiny! Tongue
Then the fact I can not even deny Jalal's analogy of the jungle scene! He was already pissed about Hawai and then Jodha in a way does not even answer his question?! Ouch
this is why it is NOT good for me! If this is what Jodha shall be, how can Jalal supposedly turn into Akbar due to HER? LOL At this point I would say he is better off without Jodha! Stern Smile
And her DAYA! Lulz! Its her whole clan who needs HIS daya warna all of Amer would be in graves!
 
I would say--- they should have shown this rebuttal in a mellow way! like how she told him in the jungle! and that dialogue she told to her baapusa in intro... Those kings who rule people stay in History! could have been such a subtle scene! and this on she could say with pride too! Smile
 
Ahhh! I am such a bore! I am NOT rebutting you re... just merely chosing you to take my bhadaas out! EmbarrassedLOL

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