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Posted: 17 July 2013 at 9:51am | IP Logged

Hi!

   In a couple of days, curtains will fall on a tale to which we all have been heartfelt spectators over the last several months. Each of us will remember the 'half-an-hours' we invested in the tale each weekday in our very own way and describe it with an adjective we think most apt. At the same time, it is quite natural to feel a bit gloomy as we inch closer to the last telecast. Jostling with these thoughts and armed with the responses that I received from this forum's distinguished members in the poll conducted last week, I couldn't resist writing this epilogue for our dear tele serial.

   This epilogue, as I prefer calling it, is meant to serve multiple purposes. Firstly, as the subtitle of the epilogue suggests, it intends to mount a soft and sad-toned critique of the show with the sole purpose of highlighting where it could have gone wrong. Secondly, as most epilogues do, it will seek to judge whether the tale in question accomplished the project it had set itself in the preface. Lastly, it will try and include some emotions and lessons (if any) towards the end.

    At the very outset, the story was full of promise, potential & poise. To the credit of the CVs, the screenplay was captivating, the circumstances were exciting and the actors were brilliant. As a result, it is quite difficult to imagine how a delicacy could go awry when the recipe and ingredients were perfect. 



I. How A Promise Went Wrong


- The Means-Ends Problem
Most philosophers agree that no matter how pious your ends are, the means that are employed have to be equally righteous and acceptable to make your acts correct. This, I think, is where the show's promise fell short of expectations. (I will elaborate through the headings that follow.)

     Unjustifiable Injustices: On the basis of my analysis and the feedback I have received in my posts, the show took the most serious body blow when the 'groom swap' happened. The second & the fatal body blow came when the male lead was unnecessarily sacrificed. One may argue that the CVs had the right motive in mind when they televised the 'groom swap' (that Aradhya should marry the real Ehsaas, not an imagined one), but the means they employed were distasteful and abominable. As far as Madhav's death is concerned, both the means & the ends were unjustified. No wonder, the most faithful of viewers had to question their loyalty to the show.

     Imposition Instead Of Realisation: The CVs continued unabated with means-ends blunders when they televised the "Daadi Ploy" as a method to make Aradhya realise her longing for Madhav instead of relying on and waiting for the inherent capability of her love to come to the fore and effect a genuine realisation. Again, I am of the view that Aradhya's liking for Madhav was always genuine, but the means employed to prove it were deplorable & very lousy. The means bordered on imposition and robbed the plot of its much-deserved essence. 


- The Shameless Catalyst
It's called Television Rating Points (TRPs). Quite easily the main culprit, it acted as the shameless catalyst to push the show deeper into the abyss. We all know how methodologically flawed the entire system is (rural areas are excluded, sample size is shockingly small, etc.), but we can't blame the CVs for bowing to it when the entire TV industry is based on it. The CVs can only be criticised for being too greedy in their pursuit of these TRPs & sacrificing good story-telling in the process.

       The Elusive Points: One does wonder whether the CVs should have realised that the concept they were handling would have always had only a limited clientele given its contrast with mainstream thinking about ideas such as beauty & love. This realisation would have not only avoided the mindless TRP-hunt beyond a certain point but would also have immensely benefitted sensible & sensitive story-telling.



II. The Miscarriage of a Concept

- As I understood the essence of the show at its inception, it sought to question the necessity of a good physical appearance in a relationship. It wanted to assert that a true relationship can go beyond physical appearances and the symmetry of looks/complexion of the partners. In my view, as the show ends, I cannot but say that this essence has been compromised and dealt with very inefficiently. In fact, I am afraid the ending may prove counterproductive to the project they had ventured out with initially. It may end up reinforcing the existing stereotypes about fairness of complexion and 'good looks'. Much has already been said about how the show is ending, I only want to add that I strongly feel that the ending of any tale should be in consonance and compliance with what it had stated at its inception. Had the show declared its aim to be that of exploring the vagaries, fickleness and unpredictability of life, the ending would have been apt. But, that was not the case.



III. In Conclusion

As I end (what is my last post as topic-maker), I have to pour out my emotions too amidst all the formal arguments. I have to say the show has succeeded in arousing feelings of all hues - affection, shock, anguish, sadness, longing & love. I will surely miss the Periwals and the Mansinghas at 7.30pm on weekdays!

The lessons to be learned are few but stark. How long can effective story-telling be a slave to the obnoxious TRP system? How long will Sony's shows promise so much but deliver so less? How long will the CVs & the PHs be unresponsive to the lay viewer's feelings? Let's think it over.


Thanks a lot!



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before i comment more- why this Blame that trp was the reason?
Who claimed it?-----------
 
because post & pre leap- TRP is the same!
 
For me- first story exhausted its potential- so new one was fresh welcome!
First story fell flat to deliver- So this change!
and for many viewer's it was a welcome change!
 
Why demean: current- consistent & returning cast & crew?! for just one oustered actor?
Why noone felt SO strongly for Kiran Khoje? original Prerna?
 
Question to integrity! It's all about intentions!
Because- when sightings are just for demeaning current cast & promoting ACCUSATION of 'trp' - as mentioned+spread by actor; when there are no discussion on current track- new cahpter of this beautiful tale of hearty sacrifices- intentions raise questions!
PERSONAL OPINIOIN!


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Originally posted by spdp

before i comment more- why this BLAME that trp was the reason?
Who claimed it?-----------
 
because post & pre leap- TRP is the same!
 
For me- first story exhausted its potential- so new one was fresh welcome!
First story fell flat to deliver- SO this change!
and for many viewer's it was a welcome change!
 
Why demean: current- consistent & returning cast & crew?! for just one oustered actor?
Why noone felt SO strongly for Kiran Khoje? original Prerna?
 
Question to integrity! It's all about intentions!
Because- when sightings are just for demeaning current cast & promoting ACCUSATION of 'trp' - as mentioned+spread by actor; when there are no discussion on current track- new cahpter of this beautiful tale of hearty sacrifices- intentions raise questions!
PERSONAL OPINIOIN!

 

Thanks for reading & commenting, Spdp!

Firstly, we cant have a meaningful and constructive debate if you fixate your thoughts only on one actor's critique. It is sad that you view every post through this lens and refuse to concentrate on any other argument whatsoever.

Secondly, the only reason I am criticising the TRPs is because it is in response to these low TRPs that unnecessary 'shock' elements are introduced into the tale. As far as comparing TRPs over periods is concerned, I am yet to come across a mechanism that can tell why TRPs changed or remained the same in a said period.

Thirdly, you are completely free and have every right to judge which plot/story has exhausted its potential. But, you will sound fallicious when you use the same argument in different ways to suit your needs. For Eg. if you argue that the previous plot failed to deliver and hence the change, someone else can argue that the new plot failed more miserably and hence the end!

Fourthly, I completely fail to understand how someone can be 'demeaned' when the only thing I am doing is questioning the failure of the story to bring home the point it initially proclaimed. I have not called into question any actor's credentials at all. Even Soumya Seth has clearly stated in an interview to a site that Aradhya's character went "a little haywire" and "many layers were left unexplored". I dont think this can be called 'demeaning' in any way. Questioning something is not demeaning that thing.

I have already stated that intentions are very difficult to judge (especially by someone who has a very strong bias) and it is best to avoid such allegations in the interest of the graciousness of the forum.

Lastly, nobody is preventing you from making myriad posts on the new track everyday. But you should not expect others to make posts according to your likings and preferences. Everybody has a right to say what he/she wants in a post. Personal choice should be respected. Also, as far as this tale is concerned, I dont think it was meant to be 'a tale of hearty sacrifices' - conceptually. What it was meant to be I have already stated in the post (which you have conveniently chosen to ignore). Also, capital letters cannot make a convincing argument, so they are best avoided.

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[QUOTE=Abhishek_5] 

Thanks for reading & commenting, Spdp!
You Are Welcome Smile!

Firstly, we cant have a meaningful and constructive debate if you fixate your thoughts only on one actor's critique. It is sad that you view every post through this lens and refuse to concentrate on any other argument whatsoever.
My reaction to one particular actor in certain posts is because- those posts want to promote the Thought that 'one actor' is the reason why show is ending or why show was running!
I do comment & critique & discusss other actors- all actors of this show! But 'some'  just respond to my 'one actor's critique! my recent & past posts about other actors critique/appreciateion have not got comments from people who literally 'bash' me when i comment on this one actor! interesting, isn't itTongue!
So let's say fixated views are both ways?!

Secondly, the only reason I am criticising the TRPs is because it is in response to these low TRPs that unnecessary 'shock' elements are introduced into the tale. As far as comparing TRPs over periods is concerned, I am yet to come across a mechanism that can tell why TRPs changed or remained the same in a said period.
Try to see the elimination as- termination of nonworking or some technical reasons unknown! there was no shock element & it did zero effect on TRP.
why it remained same? - perhaps because new track was equally liked by viewers whowere watching the show! "elimination for shock/to raise trp- becomes baseless when it comes from actor- who has claimed the same for previous show as well!
And this constant trp-trp-trp ragaa does sound funny!
Thirdly, you are completely free and have every right to judge which plot/story has exhausted its potential. But, you will sound fallicious when you use the same argument in different ways to suit your needs. For Eg. if you argue that the previous plot failed to deliver and hence the change, someone else can argue that the new plot failed more miserably and hence the end!
Agree with you on this! First plot failed to deliver due to chaotic execution. Where as new track is not given chance to develope. It had to go winding down for fair ending! First track got 6 good months - but failed! And that impact would have taken time to ease out! It's a business decision.

Fourthly, I completely fail to understand how someone can be 'demeaned' when the only thing I am doing is questioning the failure of the story to bring home the point it initially proclaimed. I have not called into question any actor's credentials at all. Even Soumya Seth has clearly stated in an interview to a site that Aradhya's character went "a little haywire" and "many layers were left unexplored". I dont think this can be called 'demeaning' in any way. Questioning something is not demeaning that thing. Intitial point  was brought home in very regressive & soft abusive way by swap! Pushed many away! then it was repetative! No story is left in beauty & the beast when Beauty accepts him! So end was logical. Plus character didn't work for many post swap!
Somya did say that, and looking at reactions of Aradhya post swap & lame realization - she is right! AND she has also said- she is been enjoying this new phase of Aradhya's life! Her 'haywire' was for middle months- post swap!

I have already stated that intentions are very difficult to judge (especially by someone who has a very strong bias) and it is best to avoid such allegations in the interest of the graciousness of the forum. We all belive that- but fail to do so! And everyone is biased! I am - so are all who love to bash new track, actors, and those who like them! Right?

Lastly, nobody is preventing you from making myriad posts on the new track everyday. But you should not expect others to make posts according to your likings and preferences. Everybody has a right to say what he/she wants in a post. Personal choice should be respected. Also, as far as this tale is concerned, I dont think it was meant to be 'a tale of hearty sacrifices' - conceptually. What it was meant to be I have already stated in the post (which you have conveniently chosen to ignore). Also, capital letters cannot make a convincing argument, so they are best avoided.
"myriad'  Posts LOL- I have been making from beginning of this show! Have you read my intial post where I was all praises for 'one actor'? My dislike started post character swap & post certain interview! Have reasons! And as you said- personal choice!
Concept: is Dil Ki nazar Se khoobsurat!
Part one said story thru beauty & beast! Over w/ beauty accepted beast!
Part two said story of a young man & woman moving on with their life & connecting through a kid!
One cannot be adamant on 'initial concept' even when it reached its goal.MAny aspects of that were left unexplored, were explored in regressive & weird ways, were failed to connect to many!
 
Dil ki nazar se khoobsurat is not just about ugly man!  who selfishly went on to get what he wanted as they shown here! (You chose to ignore my Kiran Khoje commentLOL. btw, I had made  a post when they changed her! )
Dil ki nazar se khoobsurat can be explored in many ways & thats what they tried! for timeframe they had!
And many - or say all 0.5 trp viewers enjoyed! No one left! No polls matterSmile! Also, capital letters about my personal opinion- for those who love me enuf  to return & read my posts! I have been putting disclaimers in all caps for long on this forum! (And I am not going to second comment on this post, so No offense)
Thank you!  
Happy tv viewing!


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Originally posted by spdp

[QUOTE=Abhishek_5] 

Thanks for reading & commenting, Spdp!
You Are Welcome Smile!

Firstly, we cant have a meaningful and constructive debate if you fixate your thoughts only on one actor's critique. It is sad that you view every post through this lens and refuse to concentrate on any other argument whatsoever.
My reaction to one particular actor in certain posts is because- those posts want to promote the Thought that 'one actor' is the reason why show is ending or why show was running!
I do comment & critique & discusss other actors- all actors of this show! But 'some'  just respond to my 'one actor's critique! my recent & past posts about other actors critique/appreciateion have not got comments from people who literally 'bash' me when i comment on this one actor! interesting, isn't itTongue!
So let's say fixated views are both ways?!
It is very difficult, I guess, to judge which post is 'promoting' what. It is your interpretation hence I cannot question it. The reason why 'some' respond only to your critiques is because these critiques tend to be very harsh at times and even if someone wishes to ignore it, one cant. You cant question people when they selectively respond to such posts. Everybody likes/dislikes something/nothing in every post. Had your critiques been a bit less harsh, nobody would have targetted your posts for that only. When you choose to direct your post specifically at someone, I think you cant question the members' replies (when they are directed specifically as well). Agreed, there can be fixated views on both sides, but when this fixation turns into mindless allegations and personal remarks, we need to draw a line.

Secondly, the only reason I am criticising the TRPs is because it is in response to these low TRPs that unnecessary 'shock' elements are introduced into the tale. As far as comparing TRPs over periods is concerned, I am yet to come across a mechanism that can tell why TRPs changed or remained the same in a said period.
Try to see the elimination as- termination of nonworking or some technical reasons unknown! there was no shock element & it did zero effect on TRP.
why it remained same? - perhaps because new track was equally liked by viewers whowere watching the show! "elimination for shock/to raise trp- becomes baseless when it comes from actor- who has claimed the same for previous show as well!
And this constant trp-trp-trp ragaa does sound funny!
Again, unless you have sufficient evidence it is difficult to believe the 'non-working' or technical reason. Shock elements vary. For you, it may have been the groom swap, for others Madhav's death, and so on. Zero effect on TRPs, true. Nobody's questioning that. As I said before, 'why it remained same' cannot be judged by you and me. The TRPs system does not provide reasons. Everybody can give reasons to suit his/her interests. I dont think that the fact that a statement has come from an actor makes it baseless instantly! TRPs are funny, true. But, it is that 'raaga' which makes the TV industry dance to its tunes!


Thirdly, you are completely free and have every right to judge which plot/story has exhausted its potential. But, you will sound fallicious when you use the same argument in different ways to suit your needs. For Eg. if you argue that the previous plot failed to deliver and hence the change, someone else can argue that the new plot failed more miserably and hence the end!
Agree with you on this! First plot failed to deliver due to chaotic execution. Where as new track is not given chance to develope. It had to go winding down for fair ending! First track got 6 good months - but failed! And that impact would have taken time to ease out! It's a business decision.
Again, I cant understand the basis of your analysis when you say the 'first track failed'. That is too sweeping a statement. True, it was a chaotic execution. I've talked at length about it in the post. Also, if you want to use the 'business decision' argument then that can become a fruitless but handy tool for those who dont have sufficient arguments. The 'impact' would have eased out by the leap itself.


Fourthly, I completely fail to understand how someone can be 'demeaned' when the only thing I am doing is questioning the failure of the story to bring home the point it initially proclaimed. I have not called into question any actor's credentials at all. Even Soumya Seth has clearly stated in an interview to a site that Aradhya's character went "a little haywire" and "many layers were left unexplored". I dont think this can be called 'demeaning' in any way. Questioning something is not demeaning that thing. Intitial point  was brought home in very regressive & soft abusive way by swap! Pushed many away! then it was repetative! No story is left in beauty & the beast when Beauty accepts him! So end was logical. Plus character didn't work for many post swap!
Somya did say that, and looking at reactions of Aradhya post swap & lame realization - she is right! AND she has also said- she is been enjoying this new phase of Aradhya's life! Her 'haywire' was for middle months- post swap!
I have stated the problems with the swap story at length in the post. Also, I think Soumya gave this interview after the leap and when it was confirmed that the show would go off air. I saw this as her analysis. Also, I brought in Soumya's statement only to argue that questioning is not equal to demeaning (which you often allege).


I have already stated that intentions are very difficult to judge (especially by someone who has a very strong bias) and it is best to avoid such allegations in the interest of the graciousness of the forum. We all belive that- but fail to do so! And everyone is biased! I am - so are all who love to bash new track, actors, and those who like them! Right?
I havnt discussed "intentions" in any of my posts. In fact, I have clearly stated what my intentions are in each post. If you dont believe them, I have nothing to say. I havnt bashed the new track ever, I am still watching it, neither have I bashed anyone for watching this track or liking it. I have given several explanations previously to you about this new track. In fact, you started the entire discourse on "genuine intentions" and "off-screen intentions" very loudly. They formed the centre-piece of most of your recent posts. Please dont say that everybody fails to maintain the graciousness of the forum.


Lastly, nobody is preventing you from making myriad posts on the new track everyday. But you should not expect others to make posts according to your likings and preferences. Everybody has a right to say what he/she wants in a post. Personal choice should be respected. Also, as far as this tale is concerned, I dont think it was meant to be 'a tale of hearty sacrifices' - conceptually. What it was meant to be I have already stated in the post (which you have conveniently chosen to ignore). Also, capital letters cannot make a convincing argument, so they are best avoided.
"myriad'  Posts LOL- I have been making from beginning of this show! Have you read my intial post where I was all praises for 'one actor'? My dislike started post character swap & post certain interview! Have reasons! And as you said- personal choice!
Concept: is Dil Ki nazar Se khoobsurat!
Part one said story thru beauty & beast! Over w/ beauty accepted beast!
Part two said story of a young man & woman moving on with their life & connecting through a kid!
One cannot be adamant on 'initial concept' even when it reached its goal.MAny aspects of that were left unexplored, were explored in regressive & weird ways, were failed to connect to many!
 
Dil ki nazar se khoobsurat is not just about ugly man!  who selfishly went on to get what he wanted as they shown here! (You chose to ignore my Kiran Khoje commentLOL. btw, I had made  a post when they changed her! )
Dil ki nazar se khoobsurat can be explored in many ways & thats what they tried! for timeframe they had!
And many - or say all 0.5 trp viewers enjoyed! No one left! No polls matterSmile! Also, capital letters about my personal opinion- for those who love me enuf  to return & read my posts! I have been putting disclaimers in all caps for long on this forum! (And I am not going to second comment on this post, so No offense)
Thank you!  
Happy tv viewing!
As I have said many times, I cant be held responsible for my joining this forum late. Do I need to read all previous posts before making a new one? Who is even questioning your sincerity towards this forum?? 'Dil Ki Nazar Se Khoobsurat' usually means he/she is not 'khoobsurat ankhon ki nazar se". 
I agree, there could have been two seasons. But, why kill the 'beast' and then use the same 'beauty' to tell another tale - which is completely different. Make Khoobsurat Season 2 instead! This way the new track can also get sufficient space and time.
I am sorry I didnt include the Kiran Khoje aspect. I didnt ignore it, I wasnt a part of the forum then to comment on the reactions.
Capital letters also mean shouting out loud - which I feel are unsuitable for a gracious public discussion. If you wanted it to mean that then its your call.
You have every right to choose to comment or not. But, I hope I can atleast respond to what you have stated. Also, please refrain from holding me accountable for those times when I hadnt even joined the forum. 

Thank you!

Thanks!







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well-written AbhishekClap
                                              i still believe the show has failed frm the beginning itself.the makers r responsible for it.they never completely believed in the concept they had.there was no need of intding rahul along with madhav.it led only to a failure in building up a strong foundation to madhav-aradhya's story.
                                                     telly world is all abt a handsome face n makers always had this at the back of their mind. they got affected by the sound n fury made by certain fans with regard to it.they never developed a track properly.characterisation was poor.there was no sub-plot wn they had many.
 in one sentence-this show is a complete failure.the makers had cheated viewers who watched n loved the show for its concept rather than for any star.happy to know that  even a star fans  can't save the show,many failed to understand that plot{story} n character r the soul of a show.
 

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nice post abhishek well i totally agree with rtms the cvs only responsible for the total failure of the show the show started on a gud note the first episode and the first week when they introduced a shy insecured beast and the beautiful attitude beauty but next week they started a love  triange which is totally unnecessary for this show and in india ppl watch the show for its emotional quotient and if they have developed madhavs character properly with the ppl insulting him and his insecurities and the beauty after falling in luv with him changing him that would have made the show hit but i know some ppl wont agree but the harst truth is luv triangle didnt work and the show trps gone down and lastly the show gone haywire with no sense at all  i never seen in any hindi show this type of ending the male lead replacing and the next lead comes for the 2 weeks and that 2 weeks gone without the story only 2 times kidnapping what type of show is this 

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I agree with each and every of ur points,The concept was gud but execution was too bad and lost the charm within 3week of its starting .Al the actors played their parts very well so all credit goes to cv's for not handling properly the beautiful show

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