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Posted: 25 June 2013 at 7:05am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Oh_No_Soaps




@blue:  Ab phir se doosri side se dholki bajaaying!! When it suits..rk is redeemed and loves madhu. When it suits..he has always been manipulative. No matter what rk must win.LOL

We all know he that those reasons aren't the REAL reasons why he got sultan arrested. Can't get the police to arrest a man just coz you hate his guts and yous jealous and insecure about him. Not even if you are a superstar!LOL




RK didn't get him arrested just bcoz he hates him.. He should have done it even before..he threated him twice,showed him pistol,broke his car's windscreen, tried to kidnap his wfe on the day of wedding,beat him,smashed his father's photo coming in his own house where he was a bin-bulaya mehman, then again threaten him! And after all this RK should hg him n worship him? He know he's a low graded criminal..if he wish he can kill him or his mother! He get him arrested being a responsible husband n son..

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Posted: 25 June 2013 at 7:10am | IP Logged
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Originally posted by titli4love

[QUOTE=soapbubble]If I were Madhu, I'd be very very angry and disappointed in my BRAND NEW husband for breaking my faith yet again. 
And for not having the maturity to handle a situation with simple communication.
For being so obsessed with me that he can't see or hear what someone else is saying.
For not accounting for my feelings or respecting them.
I'd feel cheated, unhappy for being lied to, for using me to summon Sultan and then having him arrested in that underhand way.

Then I'd follow the goddam voice in my head and heart and do what I feel is right in every situation. Not let loyalty or society's rules about 'patni dharm' dictate what I should do.
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Do u watch the show with full attention??
For ur kind information it was RK's father's puja n Sultan banged on there! Did he show a minimal respect for his father mother? Respect usi ko milta hai jo pane ki kabil hota hai aur khud dusro ko respect karna janta hai. Respect kamani parti hai yaar pistol dikhake nikali nehi jati..
And Madhu came herself to volunteer RK..he didn't involve him..she run to call Bhai before listening to him fully. And what do u do if someone comes to ur house, breaks ur beloved one's pictures n threat u to kill?
u would kiss the guy?make love with him?

Now that you have brought this up, you know, seriously, I wouldn't mind seeing this! You've given me a daydream, you have! Wink

But MORE seriously, an RK fan shouldn't talk of 'earning respect' you know. It's what they call a 'weak wicket'. Respect isn't earned at gun point and not is loved gained by threatening suicide. 

RK has got MUCH more than he has earned or deserved - with his behaviour, that is. I concede that he's a good guy at the bottom of it all.
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You can kiss anyone u want..It's not my business..I'm not a bit interested in ur Prem-kahani!LOL
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Yes, Rk did it..coz he values his love. He proved that he can go to any extent to save his love. And Also Madhu did it when she wanted to gain RK's trust back.. And u r talking about RK's suicide threat?? He ahs proved so many times that he can sacrifice his own life for MAdhu.. without threating! Remember their 1st studio night..remember the Ballu's kidnapping track. Where were u then?? didn't u watch this show at that time?Dead

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Posted: 25 June 2013 at 7:15am | IP Logged
Originally posted by soapbubble

Very true! Sultan's very foundations have been shaken in one night and RK doesn't know that. 
Fair enough. 
And RK  knows better than Madhu that Sultan has feelings for her. Again, very understandable.

Yesterday he was trying to break us up and here he is with a story. The obvious reaction is: this man is lying. But using Madhu to call Sultan, letting her believe he's going to hear the man out and then getting him arrested, without even considering if that is going to help the situation... clearly Sultan is going to get out of lock up in a day or two. What has it served really? He has let MAdhu down, been rather deceitful and underhand about it.

And Plus, the truth is: Sultan is not cooking up a plan - he is very agitated, very upset. RK is UNABLE to see that, unable to judge him correctly. He is looking at the situation through a very paranoid filter: Madhu. It's romantic Embarrassed, but also it's a fault Shocked.
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Did RK asked madhu to call Sultan? Its Madhu, who did it and made things easy for him.. He already planned to get sultan arrested for what he has done in the studio. Its madhu who interfered and set up that meeting... Isn't it? I agree that her intention is good. But you said he used madhu... You can say that if he would have asked madhu to call sultan and asked her to set up that meeting. She did'nt even ask RK whether he would be ok to talk, she just went ahead and called sultan even after RK said "ITS TOO LATE NOW".. You can watch the scene again if you wish. Smile... He never promised he will listen to sultan, he promised her that he will be calm and composed and never raises his hand. That's all he promised... I agree its not a good idea... But his intention was not wrong... He wanted to punish sultan for what he has done at studio... but using , cheating, betraying are very big words which cannot  be used at that scenario...

You and me know that Sultan is not cooking up stories... but how can RK believe him immediately?? Why he will see the situation from sultan's perspective with in few hours after the hungama?? I am sorry... i can't do that... If anyone comes and talks about my dad like that,  with in few hours i wont think it from their perspective... That comes after many instances...30 years of impression which i have for my dad wont be tarnished in some hours, i canot even doubt my dad... If i believe those words and doubt my fathers character , it raises a question of my love for my dad frankly...



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Posted: 25 June 2013 at 7:17am | IP Logged
if i was in madhu's shoes
--i wudnt befriend a gangster who threatens to kill my husband
--i wud myself plan along with my husband to get the gangster caught
--i wud have slapped my husband if he ever spoke calmly with that gangster...how can he? he shud yell n manipulate definitely...i luv that i have a possessive husband like rk
--i wud hav understood the pain that is attached with my husband's father's image being tarnished
--i wud protect my husband by keeping him away from a gangster and never tell him to go at midnight on some road n talk to him!
(what's the guarantee that sultan wudnt hurt my husband or shoot him? i m proud he called the police!)


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Posted: 25 June 2013 at 7:19am | IP Logged
Originally posted by war_is_peace

if i was in madhu's shoes
--i wudnt befriend a gangster who threatens to kill my husband
--i wud myself plan along with my husband to get the gangster caught
--i wud have slapped my husband if he ever spoke calmly with that gangster...how can he? he shud yell n manipulate definitely...i luv that i have a possessive husband like rk
--i wud hav understood the pain that is attached with my husband's father's image being tarnished
--i wud protect my husband by keeping him away from a gangster and never tell him to go at midnight on some road n talk to him!
(what the guarantee that sultan wudnt hurt my husband or shoot him? i m proud he called the police!)

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Posted: 25 June 2013 at 7:21am | IP Logged
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You wanted Logic,   LOL   See what you got. LOL

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Posted: 25 June 2013 at 7:26am | IP Logged
Originally posted by paljay

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You wanted Logic,   LOL   See what you got. LOL



Being a well wisher for TM..u can give na???? sry we cant able to give u the so called logic and make u ppl to be satisfied with long long explanation from our RISHBALians.





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Posted: 25 June 2013 at 7:32am | IP Logged
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Begged to sultan to leave. And sultan went there to make sure that madhu didn't take badla!! lolll seriously selective memory! Having been manipulated by pati to be..who locked himself in mommy's room like a 10yr old so that foster mom madhu willl do her rk .rk..rk. jap!LOL

She begged him to leave when he was in her room. After that she gave a disgusted look to him and shouted, "KYUN AAYE TUM YAHAN? KISNE KAHA THA TUMHE?? JAAO YAHAN SE" This isn't called beggingLOL RK locked himself up, broke down, gathered himself and you know what he did after that.
Semantics..made no difference whatsoever to either madhu or sultanLOL..she has no hesitation in calling him..it did not occur to her that he may not take her call. He didn't take her call..why? Wanted to keep her out of it or coz he was upset with her for chucking him out? Doesn't matter coz he could have hung up instead of taking the phone from aryan.  However once he took the call, he listened with respect and an  open mind both unknown qualities to rk.
 As for what rk did ...oh yeah...master stroke! Make full use of biwi's desperation. Like I said somewhere else in this thread...rk understand madhu veryyy welll adn he uses it. You don't use the ones you love or care about. Not for anything. If you do it ain't love.


What does this have to do with what I said? Which was that i agreed with you that it was dramebaazi by sultan?

Nope. You said na that Bhai is RK's brotherLOL So that is why I asked ki kya saboot hai except for Rashid?
Oh right ok..gotcha. LOLNope no saboot except for an alcoholic. But rk having set fire to his own feet by doing what he did now means madhu will prolly help sultan.

NO rk didn't hit him..only because this time sultan stopped him. And your gunda friend had thte grace to look ashamed that he lost control whereas your owner...errr i mean patidev just stood there having no remorse or regret as to what could have happened to madhu if that rod he threw up in the air had landed on madhu.
Breaking magoot daddy;s photo...
yeah justified...have lost temper and mr made 30 yrs of his moms life a hell and lost him the love and care of him mom. Broke the glass..big deal. note here how i am not justifiying it by quoting some of rk's doings.

Why should RK be ashamed of hitting Sultan? Did RK start all this nonsense without any reason? Then why should he take shit against his dad from Bhai's mouth? I liked Sultan after ages when he looked down because he should have been ASHAMED for accusing anyone without proof.
When did i say rk should be ashamed? YOU IMPLIED sultan should be, by FIRST bringing to the table that sultan hit rk!! Wink Agreed sutlan started it by that dramatic way in which he made the entry. Not defending him..could have been done better but we know rk..you reckon rk would have agreed to a meeting if sultan had phoned and requested one? lolll

And we ALL know why sultan looked ashamed ..coz he lost control and madhu could have gotton hurt..twisting it again eh chakkuWink a la rk isshhhtyle. Btw careful!!! You just admitted Avinesh emoted something other than his usual 1-2 expressions!!LOL
Now lets see what you will have to say when IF there is proof, rk still does not accept that his papa dear was a scumbag. How are you gonna twist it then?Big smile
Feel sorry for him there tho...for rk i mean...this happening to anyone sucks big time. How he is handling it and is going to continue is gonna suck even more. For him.

@Black - Now again, I am madhu. So how do I know how MK was 30 years ago? It shouldn't have been justified for her atleast.
It was although god only knows how sultan managed in since rk as usual did his sewage spewing from the mouth act. Sultan said...mk married my mother FIRST and took away me, her child and then married your mother, thereby ruining my moms life and my life.

Watch the episode again..rk is back!! And sultan rocked too! I even disliked bittu more than usualLOL With his sqealing cheeef!! cheeef!!LOL

Not cursing you chakku...quite like you actually! But sultan and rk a poles apart in many ways and if you admire and condone rk then no...you wouldn't have someone with the kind of values sultan holds as a friend. So no am not cursing you. RK...cursing...yup alll the way.  He is not capable of changing...he his a user and abuser. CVs THANK you for keeping your creation true to character.

RK is a fictional character who entertains me, that is why I like him. I never supported him during his revenge or during the time he handcuffed Madhu.
He entertains me too!Smile Coz he shows some truly offensive and base human qualities. AND I ADMIRE Vivian for being able to show and act those so well. No matter what, the way he spoke and what he said to sultan during the havan is not justified. And on top of it he made the situation worse for himself and his mom.

As for how he used madhu...no matter which way ANYONE spins it...uh uh. No ways jose!! Ppl don't even use their dogs that wayOuch
 

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