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Posted: 25 June 2013 at 6:44am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Noe123

I see Ayaan more of a wrong man than a wronged man.

During Rashid jail fiasco, Ayaan did absolutely nothing except going to his bhai jaan, pleading him to take the case back, emotionally blackmailing him and finally calling him 'Sautela' (which just shows what an insensitive jerk he is!) Then, he and his ammi depended on Dilshaad to give bribe of 1 crore. See, again, bribe! That was the second thing he did. No honorable way came to his mind. Bribe - that too taken from Dilshaad - without his bhai jaan knowing. And, the last thing, Razia's deal - because he didn't do anything else, he took this option. Now, I agree it is a sacrifice - a big one. When Razia kept her side of the deal, an honorable man will keep his side of deal. Choron ke bhi kuchh usool hote hain.

About Humeria - Humeira's feelings are secondary to Razia's own plan. Humeira's mysterious illness seems the reason that she wants to keep her before her own eyes. And, also if she marries Ayaan, it means the business empire that Rashid has built which will go in Ayaan's hands, will stay under her reins. Humeira having feelings for Ayaan is just a detail.

Noe,

He did try to sell that property...to get th emoney- Raziya ruined that too...so I feel he did try hard.


Who said he didn't keep his side?- He keeps telling Raziya that he is not running away- he is just against the way Raziya is using Nikhat's shaadi to blackmail him...

The fact remains that he was committed to Humeira- resigned to his fate- it was she who choked that NAHI out of him...Smile

Raziya's bigger plan 4 Humeira- only the viewers know about it...I felt Humeira could have asked this Q much before...when he shouted about the sweater...


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Posted: 25 June 2013 at 6:47am | IP Logged
Originally posted by chicksoup

Originally posted by _vineeta_

Wonderful post, yes he was trying to draw parallelism. I absolutely love this characterization, its more realistic I feel than Asad's.
He is not strong as he was never allowed to grow, he makes decisions at the need of moment and when moment comes, he is not brave to accept it but then he is not backing out either, he loves someone he is not scared to fight for him/her right there without giving second thought... Love the way he is learning now from his own mistakes and growing up gradually..
 
 
 
Love can never be forced, he is ready to marry but how can he add feelings and smile to go with it. Now that wasnt part of his deal right??
Humaira will let him go, cant wait to see direct slap on Razia now.
 
 
And on yesterday, I dont see anything wrong in what he said after I actually saw the scene. The last look Asad gave to Tanveer, it didnt have hatred or disgust, it had feeling of sorry for herAngry
 
 
Sorry but that one shot again took away all brownie points for Asad from me(same as when he brought Tanveer with him). He didnt need to meet eyes with her when he cant do same for others. He wronged but he doesnt feel she did? What lame guy he is, Dilshaad had to spell it out loud, it takes two to tango. Still didnt see how she betrayed the sacred friendship, knowing how muc he loves Zoya she tool advantage of him..
 
 
 Thanx Vineeta..
You sound pretty upset with Asad-Wink I felt it was IMPORTANT THAT HE COULD MEET EYES WITH HER- because that means he doesn't feel he wronged her...like Dilshad said, she was as wrong as him...and therefore he need not avert his eyes from herClap
Not with Asad but writers they keep throwing these subtle moments which can be read either way, and saying what Ayaan read in them to make his theory at that moment. I wanted to see him mad at himself, which he was never when he came back that too wih herOuch.
 
 
 


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Posted: 25 June 2013 at 6:47am | IP Logged
Originally posted by s120

Originally posted by chicksoup

Originally posted by s120

Before I say anything, I want to quote this comment by Sujata: 

"Ayan is so dumb that even if he sees Asad and Zoya in the same condition how Zoya saw Jammy and Tannu..Ayaan will say my bhaijaan does not love Zoya. Maybe they were watching movie last night and Zoya must have bored him with her shayries and that's why they slept together."  ROFL 

Ok now coming back to your post Soup. Well said, as always! Big smile

He needs to learn a lesson and he will eventually.  I am not too surprised that he couldn't understand AsYa's equation. That for him is like rocket science LOL But he is also in a way like Asad, needs proofs to believe. So unless he hears it from either Asad or Zoe, he won't ever get it. And yesterday with that dialogue of his, he made Asad look like a jackass. LOL I think the writers should really make him stop saying that "main apne bhaijaan ko unse bhi zada jaanta hu."  

But the only good that came out of it was that Humeira got to know about his feelings and I want that girl to back off now from having any association with him. He first needs to learn and respect Humeira as a human being. 


@bold- ROFL

Thanks, Shreya.

I felt the point is, Dilshad should know her son much better, yet she chose to believe he turned out to be like his father...Ayan on the other hand, chose to DEFEND BHAIJAAN- if he did it, THERE MUST BE A RESON BEHIND IT...He si the only one who SUPPORTS ASAD IN HIS MISFIRTUNE...For that he needs to be applauded...for his brains and inference...well...what to expect from Shireen's genes?LOL

Of course Dilshad should have understood him but I think what made matters worse for everyone was the fact that Mr Rashid was also present there and that just reminded Dilshad of what happened years ago with her. And she reacted that way. Wherever Rashid goes, trouble follows LOL That's why I can never get myself to like that man. He should at least now try to help both his sons out and especially Asad at this stage. He hasn't done anything worthwhile so far but now he should take some action. Apart from Zoya, he is the only one who knows about that witch's intentions.  

Clap

Shreya,

You brought out an excellent point that the CVs themselves have forgotten- OR this could be Rashid's ticket to redemption- UNLIKELY, seeing there is plenty of other drama ..they need to save him for later...LOL

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Posted: 25 June 2013 at 6:49am | IP Logged
Originally posted by EternalFrission

LOVELY POST SOUP

Thanx, Fate...
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Posted: 25 June 2013 at 6:51am | IP Logged
Originally posted by MisHumptyDumpty

Originally posted by chicksoup

Aawww..mere kitten.

Awwweee mera noodlee yum yum tasty noodle Embarrassed Embarrassed

I didn't get your certificate- bheeg gayi barsaat mein...ya phir Asad ke tears mein...LOL 

How much i love that man crying Day Dreaming


FINALLY!Approve

yess Embarrassed Big smile LOL

I DID IT!Clap

Congrats you did it Big smile LOL 

Do ghanta laga kya, headache ko gayab karne mein?OuchLOL I am so mean...Embarrassed and weeked like you say...Embarrassed

naaoo i was this >  that even online LOL LOL

One point: Humeira never wanted to fight for her love...knowing Ayan did not reciprocate..like she said, main rishta jodna chahti thi, chheenna nahi...Cry there is no point forcing someone when they don't have fee;lings...not th esame with Zoya, SINCE SHE KNEW ASAD HAD SOMETHING BUT WAS SIMPLY EMOTIONALLY CHALLENGED TO BRING IT UP...Wink



@bold Agreed again, but then my point is, why not stand up for your love? Smile Smile 
But then Humera lives with Rashid, Sleepy Sleepy Spineless Sleepy LOL LOL No offences made LOL LOL

Kitten morphed into duckling...LOL

I got my A+ cert. now...Big smile

Humeira standing up...why push someone who is clearly not interested...

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Posted: 25 June 2013 at 6:53am | IP Logged
Originally posted by _vineeta_

Originally posted by chicksoup

Originally posted by _vineeta_

Wonderful post, yes he was trying to draw parallelism. I absolutely love this characterization, its more realistic I feel than Asad's.
He is not strong as he was never allowed to grow, he makes decisions at the need of moment and when moment comes, he is not brave to accept it but then he is not backing out either, he loves someone he is not scared to fight for him/her right there without giving second thought... Love the way he is learning now from his own mistakes and growing up gradually..
 
 
 
Love can never be forced, he is ready to marry but how can he add feelings and smile to go with it. Now that wasnt part of his deal right??
Humaira will let him go, cant wait to see direct slap on Razia now.
 
 
And on yesterday, I dont see anything wrong in what he said after I actually saw the scene. The last look Asad gave to Tanveer, it didnt have hatred or disgust, it had feeling of sorry for herAngry
 
 
Sorry but that one shot again took away all brownie points for Asad from me(same as when he brought Tanveer with him). He didnt need to meet eyes with her when he cant do same for others. He wronged but he doesnt feel she did? What lame guy he is, Dilshaad had to spell it out loud, it takes two to tango. Still didnt see how she betrayed the sacred friendship, knowing how muc he loves Zoya she tool advantage of him..
 
 
 Thanx Vineeta..
You sound pretty upset with Asad-Wink I felt it was IMPORTANT THAT HE COULD MEET EYES WITH HER- because that means he doesn't feel he wronged her...like Dilshad said, she was as wrong as him...and therefore he need not avert his eyes from herClap
Not with Asad but writers they keep throwing these subtle moments which can be read either way, and saying what Ayaan read in them to make his theory at that moment. I wanted to see him mad at himself, which he was never when he came back that too wih herOuch.
 
 
 

All of Asad is there in that precap... HE IS NOT ANGRY, HE IS SIMPLY ASHAMED...

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Posted: 25 June 2013 at 6:54am | IP Logged
Originally posted by chicksoup

Originally posted by s120

Originally posted by chicksoup

Originally posted by s120

Before I say anything, I want to quote this comment by Sujata: 

"Ayan is so dumb that even if he sees Asad and Zoya in the same condition how Zoya saw Jammy and Tannu..Ayaan will say my bhaijaan does not love Zoya. Maybe they were watching movie last night and Zoya must have bored him with her shayries and that's why they slept together."  ROFL 

Ok now coming back to your post Soup. Well said, as always! Big smile

He needs to learn a lesson and he will eventually.  I am not too surprised that he couldn't understand AsYa's equation. That for him is like rocket science LOL But he is also in a way like Asad, needs proofs to believe. So unless he hears it from either Asad or Zoe, he won't ever get it. And yesterday with that dialogue of his, he made Asad look like a jackass. LOL I think the writers should really make him stop saying that "main apne bhaijaan ko unse bhi zada jaanta hu."  

But the only good that came out of it was that Humeira got to know about his feelings and I want that girl to back off now from having any association with him. He first needs to learn and respect Humeira as a human being. 


@bold- ROFL

Thanks, Shreya.

I felt the point is, Dilshad should know her son much better, yet she chose to believe he turned out to be like his father...Ayan on the other hand, chose to DEFEND BHAIJAAN- if he did it, THERE MUST BE A RESON BEHIND IT...He si the only one who SUPPORTS ASAD IN HIS MISFIRTUNE...For that he needs to be applauded...for his brains and inference...well...what to expect from Shireen's genes?LOL

Of course Dilshad should have understood him but I think what made matters worse for everyone was the fact that Mr Rashid was also present there and that just reminded Dilshad of what happened years ago with her. And she reacted that way. Wherever Rashid goes, trouble follows LOL That's why I can never get myself to like that man. He should at least now try to help both his sons out and especially Asad at this stage. He hasn't done anything worthwhile so far but now he should take some action. Apart from Zoya, he is the only one who knows about that witch's intentions.  

Clap

Shreya,

You brought out an excellent point that the CVs themselves have forgotten- OR this could be Rashid's ticket to redemption- UNLIKELY, seeing there is plenty of other drama ..they need to save him for later...LOL

True! That man is capable of further messing up the situation and in this case, in a way it'll be better if he stays out of it because considering the situation Asad is in at the moment, Rashid is the last person he would want to see or talk to. LOL  

Moral of the story: All the men in this show are up to no good. LOL
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Posted: 25 June 2013 at 6:59am | IP Logged
Originally posted by chicksoup

Originally posted by MisHumptyDumpty

Originally posted by chicksoup

Aawww..mere kitten.

Awwweee mera noodlee yum yum tasty noodle Embarrassed Embarrassed

I didn't get your certificate- bheeg gayi barsaat mein...ya phir Asad ke tears mein...LOL 

How much i love that man crying Day Dreaming


FINALLY!Approve

yess Embarrassed Big smile LOL

I DID IT!Clap

Congrats you did it Big smile LOL 

Do ghanta laga kya, headache ko gayab karne mein?OuchLOL I am so mean...Embarrassed and weeked like you say...Embarrassed

naaoo i was this >  that even online LOL LOL

One point: Humeira never wanted to fight for her love...knowing Ayan did not reciprocate..like she said, main rishta jodna chahti thi, chheenna nahi...Cry there is no point forcing someone when they don't have fee;lings...not th esame with Zoya, SINCE SHE KNEW ASAD HAD SOMETHING BUT WAS SIMPLY EMOTIONALLY CHALLENGED TO BRING IT UP...Wink



@bold Agreed again, but then my point is, why not stand up for your love? Smile Smile 
But then Humera lives with Rashid, Sleepy Sleepy Spineless Sleepy LOL LOL No offences made LOL LOL

Kitten morphed into duckling...LOL

I got my A+ cert. now...Big smile

Humeira standing up...why push someone who is clearly not interested...


So why did Zoya stand up all these days? Wink She didnt know until the ceremonies that Mr Khan loves her LOL wasnt it one sided until then? LOL LOL 

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