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Posted: 24 June 2013 at 8:06pm | IP Logged
Great post dear and very plausible theories...I have always maintained that for the story to move on Asya's marriage is very essential ( personally i don't want to see it because I cannot support a relationship where a woman has been slapped or abused)...so I think sometime in the future it will happen...I don't know see the nikaah happening in Ajmer...my reasons...Zoya is shattered ...she believes that Asad gave into Billo's seduction...she feels betrayed and abandoned...until and unless Asad proves his innocence or Billo spills out the truth she is not going to give in...forget about forgiveness...anyone who immensely trusted a man the way way Zoya trusted Asad...she wouldn't even want to look at him...I would like to share an incident with you ...in the shelter where I work I once had a discussion with a client ...she was cheated by her boyfriend of 9 years...they lived together for 7 years and have 2 children...she mentioned that after she found out about his betrayal...more than anger for her partner she felt that she had lost her identity...she felt that nothing could be true in life anymore because all this time she believed that her relationship was the only true thing that she possessed...in words I am trying to say is that Zoya has lost her identity once again...when she came to India although she had her Appi and jiju she felt a void...but slowly...gradually and eventually she found it in the khan house...a mother in Dilshad...a sister in Najma...her Mr khan in Asad...the khan house as her home...now she has lost it...it's shattered. This woman's pain is unfathomable...no amount of redemption will ease the pain...honestly what she needs is Asad's assurance of his undeniable love and trust on her...not through tears or his guilt or his display of pain...it's quite simple he just has to simply open his heart out to her ...cut off all relationship with his Tanu and bestow her with unconditional love and trust...so, coming back to to whether there is a chance for a Ajmer marriage or not...I don't know how long does Gul wants to stretch it...or will be able to cover it...showing them separately dreaming as part of dance sequences is not going to get them married or push them towards reconciliation...for that Billo's truth needs to be out and importantly Asad has to know the truth.

Zoyaan track...it's trashy but hey Gul tried to promote date rape as seduction...ofcourse she can try manipulating the viewers...

Asad Billo track...hopefully this  is where all our complaining to BBCA will work ...we have complained about the date rape and they will be looking into it...I am afraid it's bad news for Gul because rapists seriously cannot marry victims...maybe it would have worked if they didn't drug him with Rohypnol or something similar to that...

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Posted: 24 June 2013 at 8:08pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by niki_12

Originally posted by delena90

Before I try predicting anything, I have to say that I am thoroughly enjoying this track. Both Asad and Zoya as characters needed this. They need to have their very cores shaken so that they can built back as stronger and more mature characters.  This is where AsYa's love story actually starts.

The way I see it, I think Asad does believe that nothing happened between him and Tanveer. If he felt like he had betrayed and shamed his mother that much he would never have been able to face his mother or Zoya. The fact that he was determined to enter Zoya's room in the precap tells me that he wants her to hear out what he has to say. Yes he has hurt her but not in the way she thinks.

Ajmer will be where the healing process starts. Asad will possibly have to deal with the fact that Zoya wants nothing to do with him and will not/does not want to listen to him. This is where the redemption of the character starts. His will to fight fate and fight for his love will be what defines him and that is exactly what I think Gul has planned. Asad needs to come back a man who does not judge things at face value. He needs to see beyond appearances and learn that "tehzeeb and tameez" mean nothing if you do not actually practice it. Zoya in her jeans and yes mini-skirts has more tehzeeb in her little finger than Tanveer has in her whole person. Asad needs to learn that and he will.

For Zoya, Ajmer will help her shed her puppy-love. Asad up until this point could do no wrong in her eyes because she transferred latent feelings of abandonment from her father on to him. She needs to see Asad as a man who has his faults but does indeed love her. Asad never did anything to garner such trust from Zoya...which was Zoya's immaturity. She now needs to love Asad as the complicated, imperfect man that he is.

Coming to ZoYaan - I highly doubt this is happening. I would still watch QH if it did but I don't think it is. Ayaan is a bit of an idiot wrapped up in his own world. When he had his outburst yesterday he was talking about himself and not Asad. There has been no character interaction of any substance between Ayaan and Zoya so until that happens ZoYaan is definitely not a go. Also, with Razia making her re-entry Ayaan will be forced to go through with this engagement and marriage. Razia will make sure of it. The biggest vamp on the show isn't going to lose...at least not yet.

Ajmer may not be about a nikaah but it is about two people who needto shed their preconceived notions and learn to forgive so that they can move on to a better, stronger and more trusting relationship.

Agree with you 100% especially about the Asad knowing he did not do anything part. Like you said he would have never ever been able to face Dilshad had he felt he was guilty of doing what everyone is thinking he did. Asad has made mistakes in the past but Zoya has never made him repent for it. Like she said once he would hurt her in front of people and come and say sorry alone. But this time, he really needs to work hard to bring Zoya back. 

I would love an Ajmer nikah due to the beauty-but I am okay if they don't give that as long as Billi gets a slap from Asad and AsYa reconcile. I don't mind seeing a jealousy track from Asad's side before they get married.
I don't want a jealousy track because after what Asad has gone through they should show him depressed not jealous.

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Posted: 24 June 2013 at 8:13pm | IP Logged
Nice post..
 
The amulet was meant to strengthen their trust and faith in their relationship, now she doesn't feel there is one so she left it. It must break him more tomorrow, I am personally happy she left that place. First that billi is still there and everyone sorry eyes will never let her forget her fate. She need to rethink..
 
Same goes for Asad, the disappointment in others eyes for him, will just make him more guilty. So he need to get out..
 
I would really want him to go after Zoya, he lost so many chances to ask for forgiveness before, this time she doesn't feel he deserve any, but that shouldn't make him give up. He did hurt her and he can only make her feel better as she can only make him free of guilt, by exposing Billi 
 
 
I am sure too that Ajmer wont heal all the wounds but maybe realize the importance of trust. I would love the scene to be played out as you wrote for Ajmer..
 
As for Ayaan, frankly to attack HumAyaan track they added blooper, he should have said Asad was rushed rather forced to marry. Now that is party true, they do love each other but 10 days are not enough to resolve every difference but then sometimes even whole life is not enough so whateverConfused.. But I am glad they stretched the marriage ceremonies for this long, Ayaan must be blind alongwith other of his siblings, if he didn't feel love. It was evident everywhere in air around them even..
 
 
Can they kill the innocence of their love so easily with Billi crap all the way, why they involved Razia atlast? Doesn't that mean Razia is reigning queen of all that goes bad in QH and Tanveer has to move out after giving battalion back to her..
 
I cant take Tanveer anymore, they cant play rape after she came back safe at home. Cant pass a three month pregnancy to just conceived, too creepy and yuck.. So she has to go and story has to move for AsYa..
 


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Posted: 24 June 2013 at 8:39pm | IP Logged
Lovely positive post, as always! I have enjoyed reading your and niki's discussions.

Hmm, i do not want to predict anymore. But i must confess that I am enjoying all the drama and the angst that is a part of the show now. 

Asad and Zoya needed this shock treatment at this stage. till now their relationship did not have any strong foundations. Asad needed to let go of his preconceived notions about appearances and there had to be a trust in their relationship. Yes, Zoya trusted Asad but that was also because she had transferred all her feelings that she had for her absent father onto Asad. She needed to see Asad for what he was - a man with flaws! 

In a way I am glad this happened now, cos when the Ghafoor truth shall be out, their trust and faith in each other will be unshakeable!!  

I dont believe Asad thinks he is guilty. yes he feels guilty for not turning up at the nikah and for hurting Zoya and his mother. But he is under too much shock to analyse whether he did it or not. If he believed he had slept with Tanveer, he wont have gone up to Dilshad to apologise. I think Gul has purposely left his feelings ambiguous at the moment. The red tabeez will get him to start thinking hopefully when he decides to go to Ajmer for some peace of mind.

Regarding Ayaan, gawd, what a self centred idiot he is. He certainly doesnt know his brothers feelings and was just talking about his own situation when he was supposedly defending Asad. Humeira has gotten to know about Ayaans true feelings and good, I am happy she did. The harsh way in which he told Humeira that he doesnt love her seems to me that Ayaan may be in her position (unrequited love). He may fall for Zoya who will never love him.

I am enjoying the way - despite the cheap cringeworthy SR scene on Thursday- and am looking forward to how Gul takes this forward - Zoyaan or not.

What I do not want tp see is Billi succeeding in any way in Ajmer... it defeats the purpose and existence of the place... In the end it is ironical, Tanveer has lost. She will never succeed in replacing Zoya. She was stupid that she lost sight of her first goal - marriage to Asad and instead made it an ego clash with Zoya. Her plan of seducing Asad on his nikah night has made her lose face in front of Dilshad. The contemptuous way in which Dilshad threw her dupatta means that Tanveer will never be able to play her bholi, bechari act again in front of Dilshad... While Zoya may have left and to that extent Tanveer was successful, Asad will NEVER pick anyone over Dilshad. So with this she has sabotaged her chances of becoming Mrs Asad Ahmed Khan effectively!

Lets see how this story moves!


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Posted: 25 June 2013 at 1:14am | IP Logged
Ok, let me first say, great post. I also feel that billi will confess n tell Zoya everything tht she has done n Asad will hear some if not all of it which will help him realize tht he is innocent but will also help him realize tht he should have trusted Zoya in the first place. This will help Zoya learn of Asad's innocence which will help mend fences between them coz her just forgiving him even with a Mangalpur Pt 2 doesn't seem right. I feel she should noe the entire truth before being able to forgive or understand him. I wud like AsYa nikaah to happen in Ajmer coz then we know tht they get married for sure coz u never noe wt'll happen in the future. I do know tht they r meant for each other n they will end up together but i wud feel more secure if they do get married in Ajmer or at least, if in Mumbai, then as soon as possible like the engagement - a small n private affair. I think tht wud fit their jodi n wud be special to watch.
I also agree tht the whole story of Zoya's father will happen only after the nikaah but i do hope tht zoya doesn't misunderstand Asad regarding tht or Asad doesn't harbor any misplaced anger towards Zoya which i don't really see happening coz he doesn't have any anger or bad feelings towards Humera so def not Zoya. I wud def like seeing Asad being her pillar of strength n giving Zoya emotional support during this phase. I think this track will also make their bond stronger n also help solidify their trust n understanding in each other. 
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Posted: 25 June 2013 at 1:28am | IP Logged
Originally posted by delena90

Before I try predicting anything, I have to say that I am thoroughly enjoying this track. Both Asad and Zoya as characters needed this. They need to have their very cores shaken so that they can built back as stronger and more mature characters.  This is where AsYa's love story actually starts.

The way I see it, I think Asad does believe that nothing happened between him and Tanveer. If he felt like he had betrayed and shamed his mother that much he would never have been able to face his mother or Zoya. The fact that he was determined to enter Zoya's room in the precap tells me that he wants her to hear out what he has to say. Yes he has hurt her but not in the way she thinks.

Ajmer will be where the healing process starts. Asad will possibly have to deal with the fact that Zoya wants nothing to do with him and will not/does not want to listen to him. This is where the redemption of the character starts. His will to fight fate and fight for his love will be what defines him and that is exactly what I think Gul has planned. Asad needs to come back a man who does not judge things at face value. He needs to see beyond appearances and learn that "tehzeeb and tameez" mean nothing if you do not actually practice it. Zoya in her jeans and yes mini-skirts has more tehzeeb in her little finger than Tanveer has in her whole person. Asad needs to learn that and he will.

For Zoya, Ajmer will help her shed her puppy-love. Asad up until this point could do no wrong in her eyes because she transferred latent feelings of abandonment from her father on to him. She needs to see Asad as a man who has his faults but does indeed love her. Asad never did anything to garner such trust from Zoya...which was Zoya's immaturity. She now needs to love Asad as the complicated, imperfect man that he is.

Coming to ZoYaan - I highly doubt this is happening. I would still watch QH if it did but I don't think it is. Ayaan is a bit of an idiot wrapped up in his own world. When he had his outburst yesterday he was talking about himself and not Asad. There has been no character interaction of any substance between Ayaan and Zoya so until that happens ZoYaan is definitely not a go. Also, with Razia making her re-entry Ayaan will be forced to go through with this engagement and marriage. Razia will make sure of it. The biggest vamp on the show isn't going to lose...at least not yet.

Ajmer may not be about a nikaah but it is about two people who needto shed their preconceived notions and learn to forgive so that they can move on to a better, stronger and more trusting relationship.

First let me say, I agree with you 100%. I am also really liking this track n seeing the emotional roller coaster tht every character is going thru. 

It was nice seeing the gradual changes in Asad but this will def give him a jolt in reality n well needed one at that. Both the trip to Ajmer as well as his interactions with Zoya n billi n his emotional breakdown there will help him become a better man n understand his love for Zoya. He is a man on a mission n is ready to fight destiny, God n even his mom to get bk or at least just meet Zoya. 

I also feel that Asad thinks tht he is not completely guilty. I think he feels tht something happened but since he has no recollection n the only real thing tht he does remember is seeing Zoya, I feel like he does not consider himself completely guilty. If tht were so, he wudn't hv been able to face anyone. Although don't understand why he hasn't asked billi wt happened. Do u think its coz he can't stand the sight of her or is suspicious/doubtful abt her? Even if she give some lie, at least he knows tht she wud prob remember something so surprising tht he hasn't asked her yet. I guess only Zoya n his ammi are on his mind right now. He wants a chance to say his piece n explain his side of the story which unfortunately nobody is giving him. 

I do feel that both characters needed this time n distance so tht they could understand each other n consider the matter more carefully. I mean, maybe this distance will give Zoya the much needed perspective n will allow her to consider tht maybe there is more to the story than wt she saw. Yea, she'll be really sad but i do feel that it'll also give her a chance to calmly think. 

I did feel bad for Asad regarding the dhaaga. It was a symbol of their love n trust n was meant to protect it n its innocence of love. When he saw it, he must've realized how much Zoya's heart must have broken which ultimately resulted in his heart breaking again. I think he will go after Zoya right after tht. will not wait for anyone or even consider talking to Dilshad abt it. In fact, i think, esp after the precap, he is ready to go against her also just to meet, talk, apologize, explain n get bk his love. 

Don't want to talk abt ZoYaan coz I wud not like to see tht track. Yea, maybe a crush on Ayaan's side but i do feel tht he will end up being a another catalyst in bringing them closer (like everybody has mentioned). I think, like Asad, this would be a much needed jolt to Ayaan to understand Humera n what she is going thru n also grow up a little so tht he can understand AsYa's love, humera's love n also get a little less selfish. 

Once again, great prediction Smile 
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Posted: 25 June 2013 at 1:52am | IP Logged
Lovely post!

I agree with your views regarding Ayaan. I think its quite possible that he will get infatuated with Zoya and that can only happen when AsYa aren't married. He will fall for Zoya and will get rejected by her. That is how he'll come to realise what Humeira must have gone through and only then he will start valuing her and respecting her feelings.  Razia is now back and she will try her best to blackmail Ayaan for the marriage but it may not work this time as I feel Humeira will back off now because she knows that Ayaan doesn't love her. 

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Posted: 25 June 2013 at 4:02am | IP Logged
Hello everyone!
Sorry for not being able to reply you promptly--just been busy..got caught up with some work.
I read all the comments..Thank you so much for the feedback!
I will come back and reply you all individually later today!
Have a good one! :)

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